Kendal Harris names top 5

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

Im not saying I don't like LK

I'm just saying I'm getting worried

I might be worried too if this were year 3-4 of a rebuild and not year 1-2.
LK needs and deserves times to get his recruits in place. He is building it with his type of guys and getting high character kids who seem willing to work hard, not bratty, spoiled prima donnas with their hand out that think they are WAYYYYYYYY better than they really are. You know the type who THINK they are first round talents that have no need for a classroom. The program needs me worse than I need it group.

I think this group is going to surprise you. They will be a lot more similar to what we can expect of LK teams. I also think they will start to show recruits what to expect and we'll start getting the attention of the higher rated guys. Dont expect top 10-15 guys to flick here but I think those 25-100 ranked guys will start taking a look. We are building our reputation back but it will take a couple years.

 

[StatGeek]

Im not saying I don't like LK

I'm just saying I'm getting worried

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[BoulderSooner]

Don't expect them to take both Clark and Woodward. We only need one of them.

we would 100% take both

 

[WTSooner]

we would 100% take both

This.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Im not saying I don't like LK

I'm just saying I'm getting worried

How can you be worried this quickly? But I don't think that OU is going to be recruiting in the manner that you may be expecting under CLK anyway. There is an entire thread on how the NCAA is looking into AAU basketball and handlers, to even get in the door with many of the "top" kids you have to do things unethically and that just isn't going to happen at OU anymore, it can't.

I think we will get 3/4* type kids and solid transfers in a manner very similar to what Sampson did. These kids will generally stay in the program because CLK and staff will tell them the truth about things [see Hornbeak article, he KNOWS that he is not going to be a starter, staff probably told him as much before he signed]. Sampson proved it, Sutton [uggh] proved it, you can win a bunch of games in this conference with program kids and transfers. Sprinkle in the occasional "star" like Najera and Price, you can do really well.

 

[bgrch1350]

He is building it with his type of guys and getting high character kids who seem willing to work hard, not bratty, spoiled prima donnas with their hand out that think they are WAYYYYYYYY better than they really are. You know the type who THINK they are first round talents that have no need for a classroom. The program needs me worse than I need it group.

While LK is bringing in those type of kids..I guess they can all sit around together at his home during march madness watching other teams in the tournament who do bring in top 100 recruits. Give me a break...why is it that the only top 100 recruits you guys think come here are cry babies, prima donnas, etc...while every other school seems to be just fine bringing in top recruits.

With Huggins now in the Big 12, OU really needs to start bringing in some highly ranked kids or were going to be in the middle to the bottom of the big 12 for awhile. You don't have to load your team from top to bottom but you need at least a mixture.

 

[CoachTalk]

While LK is bringing in those type of kids..I guess they can all sit around together at his home during march madness watching other teams in the tournament who do bring in top 100 recruits. Give me a break...why is it that the only top 100 recruits you guys think come here are cry babies, prima donnas, etc...while every other school seems to be just fine bringing in top recruits.

With Huggins now in the Big 12, OU really needs to start bringing in some highly ranked kids or were going to be in the middle to the bottom of the big 12 for awhile. You don't have to load your team from top to bottom but you need at least a mixture.

He just borught in 2 TOP 100 kids this year and late bloomer in Cousins that lit it up late!

RANKINGS are over rated. LOOK how many 5 stars and 4 stars never make it in college basketball.

 

[bgrch1350]

I think we will get 3/4* type kids and solid transfers in a manner very similar to what Sampson did. These kids will generally stay in the program because CLK and staff will tell them the truth about things [see Hornbeak article, he KNOWS that he is not going to be a starter, staff probably told him as much before he signed]. Sampson proved it, Sutton [uggh] proved it, you can win a bunch of games in this conference with program kids and transfers. Sprinkle in the occasional "star" like Najera and Price, you can do really well.

This is a different era. Baylor is solid now, they are bringing in one of the top 5 high school players each year for the past 3 years. W.V. is here now, and they haven't missed the ncaa tournament since 2008. Texas and KU are better than ever. k-state is better than ever...will that last, only time will tell. OSU is recruiting pretty good...they aren't near as good as they use too be but they can beat anyone on any given day...they proved that against #2 Mizzou last year...and they are bringing everyone back, minus Page...which is a plus in my book. T.T. has a coach now that will make them competitive, maybe not good, but competitive none the less. And to top it off, ISU is getting better and better.

 

[bgrch1350]

He just borught in 2 TOP 100 kids this year and late bloomer in Cousins that lit it up late!

RANKINGS are over rated. LOOK how many 5 stars and 4 stars never make it in college basketball.
You couch fans are a bunch of TOOLS.

Rankings are overrated??? Tell Kentucky that. Tell KU, S'Cuse, Duke, etc.. that

Actually, why don't you go tell every team that made it to the sweet 16 last year that rankings are overrated...Kentucky, Baylor, Indiana, Xavier, Mich ST, L'Ville, M'Quette, Florida, KU, N.C St, UNC, Oh St, Cincy, Wisc, and S'Cuse. We can phone it in to them from the NIT...oh wait, we didn't even make that tournament.

 

[bgrch1350]

LOOK how many 5 stars never make it in college basketball.

Why don't you share with us, in the past 4 years how many didn't contribute to their teams.

 

[WTSooner]

We don't need 5 star guys, or a roster full of top 100 guys, to go Dancing. Kelvin sure didn't. We need the occasional top 50 prospect, and 3-4 top 100 guys on the roster every year, and we can get back to where we were.

 

[luckyc1423]

Rankings are overrated??? Tell Kentucky that. Tell KU, S'Cuse, Duke, etc.. that
Actually, why don't you go tell every team that made it to the sweet 16 last year that rankings are overrated...Kentucky, Baylor, Indiana, Xavier, Mich ST, L'Ville, M'Quette, Florida, KU, N.C St, UNC, Oh St, Cincy, Wisc, and S'Cuse. We can phone it in to them from the NIT...oh wait, we didn't even make that tournament.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. Rankings to me DO matter. Rankings help students get excited about the upcoming basketball season and gives us hope. Rankings means the kid you are bringing in has talent. Rankings are everything. I want as many burger boys as we can get.

I still stand by the point, under a different coach, willie warren and tiny gallon would have been much better players. TMG was just a problem. But the other two could have been much better.....

 

[luckyc1423]

We don't need 5 star guys, or a roster full of top 100 guys, to go Dancing. Kelvin sure didn't. We need the occasional top 50 prospect, and 3-4 top 100 guys on the roster every year, and we can get back to where we were.

So because Capel brought the program down so far going dancing is the only thing that makes people happy? I actually want to compete in the tournament.

I realize we cant get top 50 recruits until we build our program back up. So what Kruger is doing is great, he is building a foundation. However it is silly to say rankings dont matter.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

While LK is bringing in those type of kids..I guess they can all sit around together at his home during march madness watching other teams in the tournament who do bring in top 100 recruits. Give me a break...why is it that the only top 100 recruits you guys think come here are cry babies, prima donnas, etc...while every other school seems to be just fine bringing in top recruits.

With Huggins now in the Big 12, OU really needs to start bringing in some highly ranked kids or were going to be in the middle to the bottom of the big 12 for awhile. You don't have to load your team from top to bottom but you need at least a mixture.

If you think Baylor in completely on the up and up you are fooling yourself. Just the couple small things that came out the last year or two should be proof enough (including hiring the AAU coach/handler of John Wall, which didnt work out the way they planned)

The recruiting class Kruger brought in this year was solid. We'll see how it translates in wins.

I don't know where you guys thought this program was at when Kruger took over but it could not have been much worse. He had to bring it from the depths and has done a very good job so far. We'll see how this class coming up plays out . . . I will gladly wait and see. This year's group, on paper, looks to have good depth. I expect a much improved group and, with that, a much more attractive program to recruits.

You need to read the article on AAU posted on the board. I dont want OU involved in a lot of the mess some programs are going through to get the elite guys (hiring slimy AAU guys, making five figure payments to coaches, etc) The Kentucky's of the world don't have to do that but I wouldn't ever put it past Calipari. We are not on the playing field with schools like that and may or may not ever be bur we will get GOOD basketballl players and compete just fine.

As far as the prima donnas and cry babies you speak of. . . I mentioned it becaus those are exactly the guys Capel recruited. He got those 'visits' you wanted but missed on more than he hit on and often didn't have a legit backup plan. I have no problem stepping down a little bit t concentrate on more realistic guys and sprinkling in an occasional stud. Im just not going to whine about it in the mean time.

 

[WTSooner]

So because Capel brought the program down so far going dancing is the only thing that makes people happy? I actually want to compete in the tournament.

I realize we cant get top 50 recruits until we build our program back up. So what Kruger is doing is great, he is building a foundation. However it is silly to say rankings dont matter.

Did we not compete under Kelvin? My statement has nothing to do with Capel. It has to do with the level of winning we did under Kelvin, and the types of recruits he had.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Did we not compete under Kelvin? My statement has nothing to do with Capel. It has to do with the level of winning we did under Kelvin, and the types of recruits he had.

And you can win that way. In fact I think we are about to start seeing that next season.

 

[jmizzy4ou]

He just borught in 2 TOP 100 kids this year and late bloomer in Cousins that lit it up late!

RANKINGS are over rated. LOOK how many 5 stars and 4 stars never make it in college basketball.
You couch fans are a bunch of TOOLS.

Wow, never seen you post like that before. I always respect your contributions, because you know hoops, the program, and what is going on real time. No need to go there, simply because the guy posted of a different opinion.

If some of the posters who are so ready to defend LK would stop and read what some of the other posters are saying, it isn't that bizarre or crazy.

The star argument has been made on every Sooner football board known to man. Of course there will be 5 star busts, and 2 star superstars, but overall most of those earned their stars with their talent/performance. It still comes down to player development/coaching, but starting with talented guys who WANT to learn and grow is desirable.....

I chuckle each time I see the threads bashing anyone recruiting 5 star talent. Everyone uses Capel as an example, referencing Tiny, WW, TMG, etc. I promise you I was here reading it daily, some of the same posters using that argument were falling all over themselves when we landed those big time recruits. All of a sudden we don't need to ever worry about star ratings and talent, because LK will develop " his type of guys".....?????

Of course KS was a master at winning with less talented guys, but let's stop acting like he took us to the Final 4 and regularly to the tourney with NAIA talent. KS along with LK have coached numerous talented players who fit their style. There is nothing wrong with Sooner fans wanting to see some Stevie Clarks and other talented guys in Norman. It doesn't mean we can't win without them, but landing some big time recruits is always refreshing, IMO......

 

[WTSooner]

Of course KS was a master at winning with less talented guys, but let's stop acting like he took us to the Final 4 and regularly to the tourney with NAIA talent.

Exaggerate much? All I said is that it doesn't take a roster full of 5 star recruits, or even a roster full of top 100 kids. We need 3-4 top 100 kids on the roster, and some solid players around them. Kelvin won with that formula for a lot of years.

 

[boksooner]

Doing minimal research, I was quickly able to find 4 guys that were Top 100 on the roster (Clark, Fitz, Osby and Hield) and two just outside of the Top 100 (Hornbeak at 102 and Pledger at 121). How many top rated guys does it take? Or does it only count if they are Top 20 guys?

 

[CoachTalk]

Rankings are overrated??? Tell Kentucky that. Tell KU, S'Cuse, Duke, etc.. that

Actually, why don't you go tell every team that made it to the sweet 16 last year that rankings are overrated...Kentucky, Baylor, Indiana, Xavier, Mich ST, L'Ville, M'Quette, Florida, KU, N.C St, UNC, Oh St, Cincy, Wisc, and S'Cuse. We can phone it in to them from the NIT...oh wait, we didn't even make that tournament.

You think they go to rivals and just offer the top 10? yeah those guys are getting the cant miss players.

Ok which program up there are we "better" than recently? Kentucky, Baylor, Indiana, Xavier, Mich ST, L'Ville, M'Quette, Florida, KU, N.C St, UNC, Oh St, Cincy, Wisc, and S'Cuse.

why should we get players over them? We just signed 2 top 100 guys, since you are a rankings guy.

UNLV is/was ranked in the top 10-15 last year. those were LK players, I think we'll be just fine.