KG To The Clippers?

[One More Rebound]

Reportedly, The Clippers are proposing a deal where they would package a deal for Boston, which woul include Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler. Don't like this deal for Boston at all...

 

[jmizzy4ou]

Reportedly, The Clippers are proposing a deal where they would package a deal for Boston, which woul include Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler. Don't like this deal for Boston at all...

Is this the start of the C's fire sale???? Where is Soopa when we need him????

I can see why LA would do the deal. No way they can free up perimeter minutes and keep all of those wing players happy, especially once CP3 and Billups are healthy.

My question is are they bringing in KG to be a bench player???? With BG and Jordan, where does KG fit in??? He is a winner and loves to win, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would embrace coming off the bench. Is Jordan a bench guy????


THOUGHTS?????? Cool M what's up with this rumor???

 

[coolm]

I know. I saw that too and am rather confused.

The rumor is Butler and BLEDSOE of all people for KG??????

They can NOT afford to let Bledsoe go unless Chauncey comes back and Jamaal gets a little more healthy. Maybe they're acknowledging that they can't keep Bledsoe in a couple of years - but they need him now. This baffles me.

If I am Boston it's a no brainer. duh. pull the trigger ASAP. I know someone here will have a better view than me because this seems horrid for Clips, good for Boston, and I am told it was proposed by the Clips.

 

[NickZepp]

This deal would be great for Boston. Get rid of a great player past his prime for a solid young guard and a solid role player.

 

[One More Rebound]

Bledsoe's "audition" last night vs The Celts: 23 points, 7 rebounds, 10 assists...

 

[Smash Williams]

It doesn't make a lot of sense for Boston. I understand blowing it up; however, as nice of a prospect as Bledsoe is, the Celtics don't really need another undersized with limited offense and a shaky jump shot. The skill sets of Rondo, Bradley, and Bledsoe don't complement each other very well.

I know. I saw that too and am rather confused.

The rumor is Butler and BLEDSOE of all people for KG??????

They can NOT afford to let Bledsoe go unless Chauncey comes back and Jamaal gets a little more healthy. Maybe they're acknowledging that they can't keep Bledsoe in a couple of years - but they need him now. This baffles me.

If I am Boston it's a no brainer. duh. pull the trigger ASAP. I know someone here will have a better view than me because this seems horrid for Clips, good for Boston, and I am told it was proposed by the Clips.

It's pretty much a given that the Clippers can't afford to keep Bledsoe if they re-sign Chris Paul.

My question is are they bringing in KG to be a bench player???? With BG and Jordan, where does KG fit in??? He is a winner and loves to win, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would embrace coming off the bench. Is Jordan a bench guy????

I don't know if Jordan is willing to be a bench guy, but KG is KG, even if he can't play as many minutes these days. A Clipper lineup with KG at center scares me. They've really improved defensively, but KG would take that defense to another level, and unlike Jordan, he can finish games.

 

[coolm]

thats a good point about DJ not finishing games.

I mean ... maybe they think that KG gets them over the hump. He could be I guess. as good as DJ and Blake are together they need to be dominant in order for the Clips to be in the stratosphere. You hear everyone talking about Blake needing to take it to the next gear in order for the Clips to get over. Maybe KG is the answer.

I do realize they can't have CP3 and Bledsoe both when contract time comes around. I just thought Bledsoe wasn't up yet. But Bledsoe as a new Boston stalwart doesn't make sense for the Celts. His game is Rondo's with less selfishness. Maybe they are thinking about sending Rondo off to points unknown. Couldnt happen to a more surly fella. Doubtful though. What they need to beware of is Bledsoe finding his way back to LA wearing gold.

 

[stoops4pres]

It doesn't make a lot of sense for Boston. I understand blowing it up; however, as nice of a prospect as Bledsoe is, the Celtics don't really need another undersized with limited offense and a shaky jump shot. The skill sets of Rondo, Bradley, and Bledsoe don't complement each other very well.

It's pretty much a given that the Clippers can't afford to keep Bledsoe if they re-sign Chris Paul.

I don't know if Jordan is willing to be a bench guy, but KG is KG, even if he can't play as many minutes these days. A Clipper lineup with KG at center scares me. They've really improved defensively, but KG would take that defense to another level, and unlike Jordan, he can finish games.

Just about to say the same. KG is less than a year removed from a dominant playoff performance. Not saying he will replicate last year's outstanding postseason play, but I don't think there's been enough of a drop-off to think he wouldn't help the Clippers by starting at the 5. I think he'd help them immensely.

 

[coolm]

NO WAY KG starts at the 5 over Jordan. Not gonna happen.

 

[Smash Williams]

NO WAY KG starts at the 5 over Jordan. Not gonna happen.

KG is more productive, he's a leader with championship experience, he's started every single game of his career since midway through his rookie year...and you think he's going to let Vinny Del Negro bench him in favor of Deandre Jordan?

 

[KCRuf/Nek]

So you take two stallions off the most athletic team and you add a plodder?

KG instead of Jordan would take a player out of the inside and put him outside. KG isn't going to play with his back to the basket. Jordan may not be a world beater but he's improved his low post game 500% and actually has some nice moves.

If they are going to lose Bledsoe in two years then so be it. They need him now as the people in front of him haven't proven they can stay healthy. JMO.

 

[ouleaf]

Is Eric Bledsoe really that valuable a trade chip for Boston to send KG? I wouldn't think really think so, unless they just feel they absolutely need a PG now that Rondo is out for the season and they are still trying to make it to the playoffs.

It's a nice start to a package, but him and Butler straight up for KG just doesn't make sense for Boston. I'd have to get some picks out of it, or bring in another team to try and get some better pieces for KG.

 

[Smash Williams]

So you take two stallions off the most athletic team and you add a plodder?

KG instead of Jordan would take a player out of the inside and put him outside. KG isn't going to play with his back to the basket. Jordan may not be a world beater but he's improved his low post game 500% and actually has some nice moves.

If they are going to lose Bledsoe in two years then so be it. They need him now as the people in front of him haven't proven they can stay healthy. JMO.

Jordan has improved playing with his back to the basket, but he's not someone you want posting up on a regular basis, especially when you have Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and/or even Jamal Crawford on the floor. Jordan isn't particularly efficient as a scorer on post-ups, and he's a terrible passer. Very few bigs are effective enough to justify regular post-ups, especially ones that teams happily send to the free throw line (if you forgot, Jordan is shooting 43% from the line this year). I'd much rather have Blake Griffin operating down low, playing alongside a big man that spaces the floor instead of one that clogs up the paint.

KG, in spite of not playing with his back to the basket, is averaging 0.92 points per possession on 235 post-ups this season (32.9% of his possessions); Deandre Jordan's "nice moves" have yielded 0.80 PPP on a whopping 132 post-ups (29.9% of his possessions). Thus, the idea that Jordan plays with his back to the basket any more than KG is completely overblown.

Jordan plays inside because he has no other choice. No one is going to chase him off an open 15-footer. Defensively, Garnett, who now plays center almost exclusively, plays inside almost as much as Jordan does, and he's clearly a superior defender to Jordan.

Jordan has made strides. He's not a scrub. He's nowhere near KG's level though, not even a 36-year-old KG.

 

[Smash Williams]

Is Eric Bledsoe really that valuable a trade chip for Boston to send KG? I wouldn't think really think so, unless they just feel they absolutely need a PG now that Rondo is out for the season and they are still trying to make it to the playoffs.

It's a nice start to a package, but him and Butler straight up for KG just doesn't make sense for Boston. I'd have to get some picks out of it, or bring in another team to try and get some better pieces for KG.

If Boston trades KG, they're not trying to make the playoffs. That moves is all about the long term, though I don't think it makes sense for Boston, given their other young personnel.

KG is still a valuable player, but he doesn't have a ton of trade value at this point. He's a 36-year-old who probably doesn't have a lot of tread left on his tires. No one is going to give up a young superstar for a guy who may retire in the next year or two.

 

[stoops4pres]

NO WAY KG starts at the 5 over Jordan. Not gonna happen.

So you take two stallions off the most athletic team and you add a plodder?

KG instead of Jordan would take a player out of the inside and put him outside. KG isn't going to play with his back to the basket. Jordan may not be a world beater but he's improved his low post game 500% and actually has some nice moves.

I'll defer my comments to Smash. I think KG would start over Jordan, and I really don't think it's up for discussion.

 

[playmakr]

KG to OKC also rumored

 

[SoonerBounce13]

KG to OKC also rumored

I think he would be good but damn that would be a conflict of feelings on my part

 

[SilliSooner]

As a contract for contract dollar trade, Bledsoe and Butler won't cut it alone. DJ would have to be added.

So if there's a trade for KG (who has a home in Malibu) Jordan will be out and the Clippers bench will be significantly weakened.

 

[Smash Williams]

As a contract for contract dollar trade, Bledsoe and Butler won't cut it alone. DJ would have to be added.

So if there's a trade for KG (who has a home in Malibu) Jordan will be out and the Clippers bench will be significantly weakened.

Bledsoe and Butler for KG works financially: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b887duu

The only potential financial issue with that trade is that it would push the Clippers over the luxury tax threshold; however, throwing in Willie Green (nonguaranteed after this season) or some other combination of low-salary players on expiring contracts fixes that.

Deandre Jordan may be included in a trade, but if so, it won't be as a necessity to make the money match.

 

[OUFan]

Kevin is too damn old and is about to retire, he is going to retire a Celtic