ksu / bu

[Soonerinkc]

ksu is grabbing the ball every time out of the net on their score...throwing it to the refs...

This is the inconsistency. I've seen teams being warned (OU) for that...I know trivial...but it helps slow teams down. Either allow it or not.

Gathers not playing tonight..haven't caught why. (sick)

bu up 35 28

 

[Zimwillett]

Of course, K-State goes from one of it's best 3 point shooting nights vs. OU back to 0-6 from 3 against Baylor in the first half. And it's not like Baylor is playing superb defense. K-State has missed some open looks. Oh well.

 

[Soonerinkc]

that's what I thought..without Gathers no doubt.

their fans are quiet.

 

[WTSooner]

Can't believe people tried to say that KSU loss wasn't a big deal. At best, they likely finish 2-3 games under .500 in Big 12 play.

 

[Sooner-Bred]

Can't believe people tried to say that KSU loss wasn't a big deal. At best, they likely finish 2-3 games under .500 in Big 12 play.

It was a bad loss, but that doesn't necessarily make it a big deal.

If we end up winning the conference (outright or shared), it won't be that big of a deal.

Lose the conference by a game, and it's a huge deal.

Time will tell.

 

[Zimwillett]

Can't believe people tried to say that KSU loss wasn't a big deal. At best, they likely finish 2-3 games under .500 in Big 12 play.

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a big deal. Every loss is consequential if you are contending for a conference title. However, I don't think it's nearly as "bad" as a lot of people want to make it out to be either. Virtually everyone in college basketball has a similar (or worse) road loss.

And not that it matters, but if recent history says anything, 8-10 in the Big 12 may be good enough to get K-State a tournament bid (see e.g. OSU and Texas last season, and OSU the year before).

 

[WTSooner]

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a big deal. Every loss is consequential if you are contending for a conference title. However, I don't think it's nearly as "bad" as a lot of people want to make it out to be either. Virtually everyone in college basketball has a similar (or worse) road loss.

And not that it matters, but if recent history says anything, 8-10 in the Big 12 may be good enough to get K-State a tournament bid (see e.g. OSU and Texas last season, and OSU the year before).

Not every team vying for the #1 overall seed has a loss to a team that is likely to finish 2-3 games under .500 in conference play, and finish in the bottom three teams in the conference. Tough to win your conference with losses like that, b/c most other contenders won't have similar losses.

I miss the days when OU might have struggled against the KU's or whomever, but took care of business against the bottom of the conference.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Not every team vying for the #1 overall seed has a loss to a team that is likely to finish 2-3 games under .500 in conference play, and finish in the bottom three teams in the conference. Tough to win your conference with losses like that, b/c most other contenders won't have similar losses.

I miss the days when OU might have struggled against the KU's or whomever, but took care of business against the bottom of the conference.

This team hasn't yet adjusted to the fact that they are the 'big game' on everyone's schedule. Judging from KU's record against OSU recently, they have issues with that as well.

Would you rather we not have a snowball's chance of winning the conference on February 11th? Because that's where we usually were when we struggled against the KU's but 'took care of business' against the bottom of the conference.

 

[Zimwillett]

Not every team vying for the #1 overall seed has a loss to a team that is likely to finish 2-3 games under .500 in conference play, and finish in the bottom three teams in the conference. Tough to win your conference with losses like that, b/c most other contenders won't have similar losses.

I miss the days when OU might have struggled against the KU's or whomever, but took care of business against the bottom of the conference.

You mean like KU's loss at OSU?

As for the rest of the current RPI top 10: Oregon lost @ Boise State and to UNLV on a neutral court. Virginia lost @ Va Tech and Georgia Tech. Maryland lost @ Michigan (basically the same "computer" profile as KSU). North Carolina lost @ Northern Iowa. Xavier lost @ Creighton. The only two teams in the RPI top 10 without similar or worse losses are Iowa and Nova. So yeah, lots of teams contending for a #1 seed have those kinds of losses.

I agree. Losing to a pretty mediocre K-State team is not good. But OU is still pretty much every reputable bracketologist's #1 overall seed (bracketmatrix.com) and still controls it's own destiny for an outright conference title. So it's not the end of the world.

 

[Sooner-Bred]

Not every team vying for the #1 overall seed has a loss to a team that is likely to finish 2-3 games under .500 in conference play, and finish in the bottom three teams in the conference. Tough to win your conference with losses like that, b/c most other contenders won't have similar losses.

KU lost to OSU.

Iowa lost to Dayton.

Michigan State lost (at home) to Nebraska.

Xavier lost to Creighton AND Georgetown.

Virginia has lost to George Washington, Virginia Tech, GA Tech and FSU.

UNC lost to Northern Iowa and Notre Dame.

West Virginia got blown out by Florida.

That's your entire Top-10 this week, minus Villanova, who we beat by 23 points.

All of those losses were to unranked opponents, some of which at home.

So you were saying?

EVERY top-10 team has bad losses, usually every season.

To say otherwise is incorrect.