Lots of Whining Coaches

[MsProudSooner]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/coaches-fear-controversial-rule-changes-may-result-whistle-181529872--ncaab.html

 

[Bk2X]

I don't blame em though. Mens ball is already super slow due to the 35 sec shot clock. Shooting 99 free throws is unreal along with nearly 30 timeouts.

 

[trueou]

Based on our two exhibition games, it appears that Kruger has prepared our players for the new enforcement regime pretty well.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I don't blame em though. Mens ball is already super slow due to the 35 sec shot clock. Shooting 99 free throws is unreal along with nearly 30 timeouts.

If you don't want the opponent to shoot so many free throws, don't foul so much. If the officials stick to their guns, the players and coaches will adjust.

 

[p230]

Players just need to adjust. I have disliked the hand/forearm checks for a long time. We will see what happens but if they actually enforce it all year (including the Dance) then it should smooth out. If they lossen it up a bit for conference play then more for the Dance then it will be a mess.

 

[AdaSooner]

Let the whiners whine! If these rules are enforced consistently throughout the season, the game will be better for it.

I like the new rule on taking a charge, too. An OU player (can't recall who) was called for a block in last night's game that would have been a charge last year. I was surprised by the call until I remembered the rule is different now. The way the block/charge is being called this year, it is no longer the toughest call in basketball.

If coaches like those in the article don't like it, let them get a job as a sports broadcaster. That way they can complain to their heart's content and no one will care.

 

[garyeb2]

Some of these coaches make you wonder. I had a chance to ask Hornbeak what he thought of the new rules and how they might affect him. He gave me a little clinic. He then went on to tell me that when Cam and Buddy went to Kansas City for Big 12 media day they were asking the other players about the rule change.

They told him that at least half of the players hadn't heard about the changes. Their coaches hadn't talked to them about it or prepared them in any way to deal with it. Those kind are probably the ones that are complaining now.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Some of these coaches make you wonder. I had a chance to ask Hornbeak what he thought of the new rules and how they might affect him. He gave me a little clinic. He then went on to tell me that when Cam and Buddy went to Kansas City for Big 12 media day they were asking the other players about the rule change.

They told him that at least half of the players hadn't heard about the changes. Their coaches hadn't talked to them about it or prepared them in any way to deal with it. Those kind are probably the ones that are complaining now.

That's interesting. Is it just an example of coaches not wanting to change the way they coach? I wonder if they think they can intimidate the ref's into calling the game the way they want it to be called?

 

[pnkranger]

That's interesting. Is it just an example of coaches not wanting to change the way they coach? I wonder if they think they can intimidate the ref's into calling the game the way they want it to be called?

Unless your name is Bill Self or Coach K they won't be able to do this.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Unless your name is Bill Self or Coach K they won't be able to do this.

I bet that a lot of these coaches think this is just a passing fancy and that things will go back to the way they were. I hope they are wrong.

 

[DenverSooner]

I don't blame em though. Mens ball is already super slow due to the 35 sec shot clock. Shooting 99 free throws is unreal along with nearly 30 timeouts.

In my opinion the shot clock has absolutely nothing to do with the pace of the game. It was 35 seconds in the late 80s and early 90s when teams were scoring 100 points a game on a fairly regular basis. The game is slow due to the way defense is played. I think this rule will be a good for basketball but the refs have to have the courage to foul out superstars early and often.

 

[stoopified]

True dat

 

[stoopified]

If you don't want the opponent to shoot so many free throws, don't foul so much. If the officials stick to their guns, the players and coaches will adjust.

True dat

 

[campbest]

This rule was the product of coaches and ADs wanting to increase scoring, highly ironic they are complaining now. Look at the coaches in the article, talking heads known for getting out and playing physical defense on the perimeter, of course they're going to be "upset". The way their rosters are composed now, they won't be able to experience the same success under the new rules. Its no different than a HS coach who plays slow ball complaining about the institution of a shot clock (which is badly needed).

There is an adjustment period for everyone...officials, coaches and players. Refs are being told they have to call it this way, coaches need to adjust their scheme and players the way they create contact.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

It will be very interesting to watch the implementation of the new rules in the Big-10, a heretofore slog-it-out, low-scoring, physical, defensive-minded conference.

I like the new rules. It takes more skill, savvy and finesse to play good defense when you are not allowed to "get in the grill" or push or mug the offensive player.

The inconsistency of the application of the "old rules" were frustrating to me as a fan. There would be no foul on a play where the defensive player just assaults a ball-handler; then that would be followed by a touch foul called on the next possession. It made the officials appear to be incompetent.

 

[skyvue]

The inconsistency of the application of the "old rules" were frustrating to me as a fan. There would be no foul on a play where the defensive player just assaults a ball-handler; then that would be followed by a touch foul called on the next possession. It made the officials appear to be incompetent.

Yep.

 

[jaymOU]

I have a 13-year old son playing a fairly high level of AAU basketball. Their coach encourages / demands them to use their hands on defense. My son is not as athletic as many of the kids he plays against, so "touching" kids - as his coach calls - it is his equalizer.

They often look like a Michigan State team essentially tackling people on the perimeter - it's done by both teams.

I assume that's would scale to HS and the NCAA play too. The more you can put your hands on people the easier they are to guard.

I believe, if it is consistently called, will put a real premium on athletic, quick players. Staying in front of penetrating guards and wings will be tougher and tougher.

 

[AdaSooner]

I believe, if it is consistently called, will put a real premium on athletic, quick players. Staying in front of penetrating guards and wings will be tougher and tougher.

Exactly!

Basketball was not meant to mimic the physical play one might see in a game of football or rugby. It was supposed to be a game of athleticism and finesse that exposed less-talented players who rely on excess contact to get by.

These so-called "new rules" are not really new at all. They have been there all along. It's that somewhere along the line, the original intent was lost in the shuffle when coaches began to push the physical-play envelope, and the officials let them get away with it.

This is simply a return to the way the game is supposed to be played. Personally, I see that as a good thing. That is (as you said), providing the rules will be enforced consistently across the board from one game to the next in every conference throughout the season and in post-season play. That's the part that worries me.

 

[campbest]

These so-called "new rules" are not really new at all. They have been there all along. It's that somewhere along the line, the original intent was lost in the shuffle when coaches began to push the physical-play envelope, and the officials let them get away with it.

The rule regarding block/charges is new, it has never been interpreted this way.

 

[sybarite]

The new rules require more competent coaches, those who can actually teach the game.