Matt Pilgrim accused of rape - OSU student paper

[OUHoosier]

Pro- The article actually said that "another student" has accused him of rape, so, yes, he has been accused of this before. Coming from the same school that allowed a child rapist to play football when no other program in the country would touch the guy, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a game 1 starter.

 

[MVPx2]

Pro- The article actually said that "another student" has accused him of rape, so, yes, he has been accused of this before. Coming from the same school that allowed a child rapist to play football when no other program in the country would touch the guy, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a game 1 starter.

It does not mean that he has been accused of rape before. What it says is this:

"Police served an emergency protective order against an Oklahoma State University basketball player after another OSU student accused him of rape, according to the student’s sworn statement."

What that means is that Pilgrim (an OSU student) was served the PO after the girl (another OSU student) accused him of rape. He has not had 2 rape complaints filed against him.

 

[soonerbms]

I'm not an expert, but unless there is some forensic evidence or an eyewitness, this is going to be a good old-fashioned case of "he said, she said." Unless she went to the hospital the night of the alleged rape and had a rape kit done, there won't be any DNA evidence. I doubt there are any eyewitnesses because we'd already know about them. She will stick to her accusation and he'll deny it. No way anything comes of this.

 

[boksooner]

Lots of rape cases are prosecuted without a rape kit. Many women feel so much shame after being raped that they head straight for a shower, rather than a hospital.

 

[CarlWeathers]

Ok am i wrong or is has there not been any charges on rape? I see she is asking for a protective order so as not to be harassed again. He has not been arrested or charged with rape. Looks to me like she is trying to drag his name through the mud after a break up.

 

[boksooner]

Ok am i wrong or is has there not been any charges on rape? I see she is asking for a protective order so as not to be harassed again. He has not been arrested or charged with rape. Looks to me like she is trying to drag his name through the mud after a break up.

Reason #127 Why women are afraid to file charges after they are raped.

 

[CarlWeathers]

because a guy on an internet message board might not believe her?

 

[Shooterms]

because a guy on an internet message board might not believe her?

Not specifically, but in a way, yes. Your presumption is to accuse the victim. Rape is humiliating enough without being accused of lying about the crime. I don't know if she was raped, and I hope Pilgrim is treated fairly. To presume his innocence is part of our legal system. That does not, however, entail presuming her guilty of lying.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

oSu fans are obviously going to assume something is amiss with her story becuase it effects thier team; OU fans are obviously going to assume that something is amiss with something Pilgrim did becuase it may effect our team. Either way it is a pretty sad indictment on the importance of sports.

 

[CarlWeathers]

Well we are all still caught up on the Jamal Mosley case which is why most of us don't completely believe her (aside from the whole weird way this is working out). She could very well be tell the truth, but there is no reason to get a po and not file charges of rape unless there is more to the story.

 

[oSuJeff97]

If there's any legs to this he needs to be off the team. I don't care how good a player he is.

Agreed.

 

[JHop71]

who knows? women are a mystery. the best thing to do is not rape them.

When I opened a thread about rape, I didn't expect to laugh out loud. HoHum's next post also had me rollin'.

 

[perryj74]

These are the same people that defended Chris Collins. As long as they are wearing orange, be it a prison jumpsuit or OsU uniform which happen to be the same shade of orange, they will find a way to jusitfy their actions especially if they help them beat OU.

 

[capelfan]

That's why I said if there's enough smoke in this situation (emphasis on "if"), then he should be off the team since this incident and the Austin incident show he is too much of a head case.

How do you figure?

 

[CarlWeathers]

until charges are filed there is no need for justifying anything.

 

[Tony]

Not specifically, but in a way, yes. Your presumption is to accuse the victim. Rape is humiliating enough without being accused of lying about the crime. I don't know if she was raped, and I hope Pilgrim is treated fairly. To presume his innocence is part of our legal system. That does not, however, entail presuming her guilty of lying.

Good post.

 

[JHop71]

Not specifically, but in a way, yes. Your presumption is to accuse the victim. Rape is humiliating enough without being accused of lying about the crime. I don't know if she was raped, and I hope Pilgrim is treated fairly. To presume his innocence is part of our legal system. That does not, however, entail presuming her guilty of lying.

Especially since he is an athlete and she has to know that this will be discussed on message boards and covered in the media.

 

[RonMexico]

yeah most college aged females I know are real in touch with the message board community

 

[capelfan]

Not specifically, but in a way, yes. Your presumption is to accuse the victim. Rape is humiliating enough without being accused of lying about the crime. I don't know if she was raped, and I hope Pilgrim is treated fairly. To presume his innocence is part of our legal system. That does not, however, entail presuming her guilty of lying.

+1

 

[MsProudSooner]

That wasn't the only article in the O'Colly about an OSU men's basketball player.

Marshall Moses refutes woman’s claims

By EMILY JO DIXON
Contributing Writer|
Published: Thursday, April 29, 2010
Updated: Thursday, April 29, 2010

Junior Marshall Moses was arrested Jan. 4th and is due to appear in court on May 17 for misdemeanor charges of driving with a suspended license and marijuana possession.
Oklahoma State basketball player Marshall Moses denies that he turned police informant after being arrested on a marijuana complaint in January.
“I didn’t tell on nobody,” the 21-year-old recently told a reporter via text message.
Moses is due back in Payne County District Court on May 17 for misdemeanor charges of driving with a suspended license and possession of marijuana.
But it was the felony arrest of an OSU student 61 minutes after his arrest on Jan. 4 that led to accusations Moses had turned police informant against a friend.
Geneva Trehus, 23, accused Moses of pointing police in her direction after he was arrested.
“I guess they were just like ‘Where did you get this,’ and he said, ‘Geneva,’” Trehus said.
Trehus was charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute and with possession of marijuana paraphernalia. Her preliminary hearing is set for May 10.
Trehus and Moses were arrested by the same Stillwater police officer, Adam Elliot, who declined to be interviewed.
Moses was arrested shortly after midnight on Jan. 4 after turning onto McElroy from North Perkins. According to police reports, he swerved toward the outside lane, crossing it twice with the passenger-side tires.
Police discovered that Moses was driving with a suspended South Carolina license. Police said they also saw a “blunt” sticking out of Moses’ left shoe.
Police raided Trehus’ apartment on North Perkins about an hour later.
Moses said he had been at Trehus’ apartment on Jan. 3 but had gone to another friend’s house before his arrest. Moses said he didn’t tell police that he had gotten the marijuana from Trehus.
“People make up stuff, but that’s what people do,” Moses said via text message. “The cops never asked, and regardless of what anyone says, thinks or how it appears, da number one rule in life is neeeeever tell!”
Moses was suspended for the Coppin State game on Jan. 5, the same day he was charged.
Moses could serve up to one year in the county jail on the marijuana and suspended license charges. He was arrested again on Jan. 19 for again driving with a suspended license, but Moses isn’t worried about serving jail time.
“Everything is a misdemeanor. So I’m not gonna go to jail for it, so I’m not trippin’,” he said during an interview in his Smith Hall room.
Moses said he doesn’t think the marijuana arrest will keep him from playing in the NBA after his coming senior year.
“No, as long as I stay out of trouble,” he said during an interview. “I’m pretty sure teams will ask about it and research it, but I mean you know if that’s your only time to be in trouble, it’s not like I got a history with all this.”
As a junior, Moses averaged 8.8 points per game and 8.1 rebounds per game during the 2009-2010 season.
Unlike Moses, Trehus is no longer an OSU student.
During an interview at the Payne County Courthouse on April 5, Trehus said she had planned to graduate in May after taking her last course online. But, Trehus said she was expelled prior to the spring semester because she refused to attend substance abuse counseling two times a week at either Alcohol Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous weekly.
“The only thing I do is smoke weed. I don’t drink. I don’t even take Advil,” Trehus said.
She has since moved to Denver, where she works as an exotic dancer.
She says it’s the only way to make enough money to pay off all her debts.
“My lawyer alone is $3,500,” Trehus said.
She said she also has to spend about $200 a month to drive to Stillwater for court appearances.
“I don’t know if you know, but federal loans and aids and stuff, if you have a drug charge they won’t ever give you another penny ever again,” she said.
Just as Trehus is trying to get her arrest behind her, Moses said he wants to move past his as quickly as possible.
“Just don’t get caught,” he said. “Try to move on, keep playin’ ball, stay out of trouble. Just act like it never happened.”