MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

Dammit, have I turned into a doom/gloomer? Ugh. I'll try to self-correct, lol. I like to be in the middle (a realist). I can't be a total homer. I don't ever want to be 100% negative either.

I homered Moser all year. I'm not going to be screaming into a mic to fire him like a bozo (don't go watch OUI's latest video), even if that's where my current mindset is, but I'm just not in a happy place with Roster v4.0 and how it's trending right now.

I thought about writing this long ass comment/breakdown on who I'd look into if I were Moser/staff but then, why? What's the damn point? Obviously, I'm not qualified to build a college basketball roster and I don't think this staff would take any advice even if it's good advice anyway. For example: I'd take the Brycen Goodine kid over Elvis and it's not really that close. I'm sure they have eyes on this board. None of them have gotten more engaging on social media. There is no NIL push. Nothing. Status quo. Hey, Moser will get paid anyway. We are the ones who will suffer.
 
StoopsBros said:
I thought about writing this long ass comment/breakdown on who I'd look into if I were Moser/staff but then, why? What's the damn point? Obviously, I'm not qualified to build a college basketball roster and I don't think this staff would take any advice even if it's good advice anyway. For example: I'd take the Brycen Goodine kid over Elvis and it's not really that close. I'm sure they have eyes on this board. None of them have gotten more engaging on social media. There is no NIL push. Nothing. Status quo. Hey, Moser will get paid anyway. We are the ones who will suffer.
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The hard part about that is we don't know enough about what OU has to offer/play with, what kids are even interested in OU (we may have reached out and been shot down), and what other schools and players landing elsewhere are getting.

We can speculate that Player A would be nice. Maybe Player A wants more NIL than we can offer. Maybe not. Maybe he doesn't like Moser, our system, or our results. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe he wants to be in a certain conference or part of the country. Just too many variables to know who realistic options would be. I think that is what makes this process so maddening.
 
WTSooner said:
The hard part about that is we don't know enough about what OU has to offer/play with, what kids are even interested in OU (we may have reached out and been shot down), and what other schools and players landing elsewhere are getting.

We can speculate that Player A would be nice. Maybe Player A wants more NIL than we can offer. Maybe not. Maybe he doesn't like Moser, our system, or our results. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe he wants to be in a certain conference or part of the country. Just too many variables to know who realistic options would be. I think that is what makes this process so maddening.
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Agreed. I think we could probably hypothesize some things but not nearly enough. Like we should be able to identify "cheap" players but yeah, like you said, we don't always know who's recruiting a kid, if they want to be closer to home, or a multitude of other factors.

We need to take it up a notch. We need to DM every kid ourselves and gauge their interest in OU. I'm starting that process now. We will find kids who want to play for OU. JK, obviously.
 
WTSooner said:
The hard part about that is we don't know enough about what OU has to offer/play with, what kids are even interested in OU (we may have reached out and been shot down), and what other schools and players landing elsewhere are getting.

We can speculate that Player A would be nice. Maybe Player A wants more NIL than we can offer. Maybe not. Maybe he doesn't like Moser, our system, or our results. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe he wants to be in a certain conference or part of the country. Just too many variables to know who realistic options would be. I think that is what makes this process so maddening.
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This past season has made me very pessimistic about OU basketball. I’ve complained about the obstacles facing the program with NIL, donor support, admin support, fan support. However, I think all of that is exacerbated by porter moser not being the right coach for OU. I just don’t think he’s good enough and he’s not a good fit for OU.

IF we could hire the right coach, some of that other stuff would fall more in line. We definitely need a new arena. We definitely need fans to show up more. We definitely need more NIL although I’ve heard it’s not as bad as we think. I have little faith moser will get enough talent to make the tourney and he will be fired next Season. We’ve made a great offer to garrison and pedulla and if moser still can’t close the deal, that’s a moser problem. We can’t miss on the next coach or the program will be set back another 10 years. We have to get it right.

Unfortunately, next season is shaping up to be total disaster, depending on the portal.
 
WTSooner said:
We can speculate that Player A would be nice. Maybe Player A wants more NIL than we can offer. Maybe not. Maybe he doesn't like Moser, our system, or our results. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe he wants to be in a certain conference or part of the country. Just too many variables to know who realistic options would be. I think that is what makes this process so maddening.
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This is the key. If we had been to 2-3 NCAAs and made some noise under Moser, does anyone really think we'd have the same portal issues?

Moser basically had zero NIL resources (according to him) to work with his first season and still put together a competitive team because there was some juice behind his name and, back then, his recent on-court results were good.

He most likely would've been fired after last season had there been an appetite to pay his buyout. You have to figure other schools/coaches are playing up his lack of success and the potential for him to be a lame duck coach this season. That probably offsets any increase in NIL funds we have.
 
CoachTalk said:
In the running for dumbest post of the day. Impressive 7:20am
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Haha, whatever you say. Personal attacks shouldn't be necessary, but here you are.

Who is OU actually favored for now, from the Portal? Not a damn person. Pedulla trending away, Garrison, as well.

Not one portal prospect is trending towards OU.

I might have had some hyperbole in my post, but the players OU will be getting from the Portal will likely not be difference makers or people to make a difference in the SEC.
 
mict085 said:
This past season has made me very pessimistic about OU basketball. I’ve complained about the obstacles facing the program with NIL, donor support, admin support, fan support. However, I think all of that is exacerbated by porter moser not being the right coach for OU. I just don’t think he’s good enough and he’s not a good fit for OU.

IF we could hire the right coach, some of that other stuff would fall more in line. We definitely need a new arena. We definitely need fans to show up more. We definitely need more NIL although I’ve heard it’s not as bad as we think. I have little faith moser will get enough talent to make the tourney and he will be fired next Season. We’ve made a great offer to garrison and pedulla and if moser still can’t close the deal, that’s a moser problem. We can’t miss on the next coach or the program will be set back another 10 years. We have to get it right.

Unfortunately, next season is shaping up to be total disaster, depending on the portal.
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I wish there was a way of knowing whether Joe is viewing next season as tourney-or-bust for Moser. As someone noted yesterday, the absolute worst thing that could come out of next year would be if we again end up just outside the field, and Joe decides that is "good enough" to keep him around for yet another year. It would be better to finish under .500 if that's what it would take for Joe to make the move.

Unless we end up signing multiple good players who we so far haven't been linked to, I think next season is shaping up to be significantly worse than the season we just finished. Surely that would convince Joe to move on . . . right?
 
mict085 said:
Between soonerbounce completely ignorant takes on everything and the debate on how much money would it take to leave your family…
This board has been insufferable lately. We need some good news.
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Lol cool
 
jdizzle34 said:
Haha, whatever you say. Personal attacks shouldn't be necessary, but here you are.

Who is OU actually favored for now, from the Portal? Not a damn person. Pedulla trending away, Garrison, as well.

Not one portal prospect is trending towards OU.

I might have had some hyperbole in my post, but the players OU will be getting from the Portal will likely not be difference makers or people to make a difference in the SEC.
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If you’d keep up. We are the leaders for garrison and Pedulla is 50/50.

Bringing in 2 guards that could commit this weekend.

Yeah no difference makers out there. Soares and Jalon Moore just sucked and I’d guess they came around may1?
 
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