MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

daqman said:
Are you certain the Duke players aren't leaving for more money elsewhere?
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Oh they for sure are leaving for more money elsewhere. Duke couldn't give a damn about their football program. All their NIL is in basketball. Even if Scheyer leaves a lot to be desired as an HC.
 
colston15 said:
I cannot envision a world in which we miss the tournament again and Moser is back.

Which is why I find it hard to believe he’s going to keep Keita. If I were on the verge of being fired, I would want to give myself the best possible chance to succeed, and wasting a scholarship isn’t a great plan, imo.
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I have zero confidence he can properly evaluate what gives him the best chance to win. He waited till late February to start our best player even though Oweh had been awful for about five or six weeks by that point.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Duke has an unreal class coming in and I’d guess some of the guys leaving know they might be losing playing time if they stick around.
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None of them would be taking any time from Kerwin Roach. Why did roach leave? $1.5million from Baylor apparently.
 
TINY said:
None of them would be taking any time from Kerwin Roach. Why did roach leave? $1.5million from Baylor apparently.
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Maybe he thinks he has a better shot at a deep March Madness run at Baylor? Or better/more experienced teammates? Or isn’t a huge fan of the new coach? Or, after 4 years at Duke, just wants something different? Or it could be like the Dillon Gabriel situation.
 
daqman said:
I can. As I said earlier. If the NIL money isn't available for PM to buy good players and keep them around, you can't blame him for the results.
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Can it be both?

Obviously, the NIL situation for MBB is gross. At a place like OU, it shouldn't be the case but it is....and there's no public push/outcry to change a damn thing, sadly. The only people who seem to care are us "**** posters". I guess that's not fair, Moser clearly had to beg for more money, and use any tactic he could (a coaching opening).

At the same time, whatever the resources are (say $2-$2.5M ish), are they being managed the right way? I'd argue no. Not that my opinions matter very much. I may end up being hilariously wrong (it happens).

Common sense, and numbers I/we have seen publicly, leads me to think the Elvis kid is in the $150-250K range. Are we 100000% sure there's not a better player at that price tag? It's hard to know since we don't know inside info on all of these kids, and there are a ton of players to weed through, but I think the safe bet is yes, there is a kid out there who's better and attainable.

Let's say OU is told to match $800K for Garrison. Is that the right move? I know everyone's going to want to say yes, and I get it, but we're talking about an unproven commodity (with potential? yes, but it needs to be next season). You could, maybe, take the $600-800K and spread it around a bit more. Find another unproven C type at lower price point (say $350K), then another bucket getter to slide Elvis to the bench (say $350K).

In other words, yes, the lack of adequate NIL funding is stupendously awful, and it should be getting some people fired right now (or forcing them to feel heat), but the coaching staff's roster plan/management seems to be just as bad, to me.
 
TINY said:
None of them would be taking any time from Kerwin Roach. Why did roach leave? $1.5million from Baylor apparently.
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I mean, OU essentially told Dillon Gabriel to leave because he wouldn’t start this season, even though most preseason rankings will have him as one of the two or three best QBs in America this season. I’m sure money plays a role for Roach but who knows if that figure is accurate. It could also be a matter of him not wanting to have to take a back seat to some incoming freshmen who are more talented and will likely be the focus of the offense.
 
WTSooner said:
Maybe he thinks he has a better shot at a deep March Madness run at Baylor? Or better/more experienced teammates? Or isn’t a huge fan of the new coach? Or, after 4 years at Duke, just wants something different? Or it could be like the Dillon Gabriel situation.
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Yeah I’m going to go with the $1.5million…you can keep your head in the sand though
 
The market value is screwed up. These players won't make this much in NBA or overseas.

The same problem is happening in college football. Players are getting paid at scales as if they will even play in the pros. Well over 90% of them never make it in the main pro leagues.
 
Look at the guys Duke has lost. Five of the seven barely played. Only Roach and Mitchell scored more than 2.6 ppg. Those guys are leaving for playing time they had no chance of getting had they stayed.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Waldo and Moore were not raw athletes who lacked basketball IQ. They were our best players. I agree that sometimes teams with great athletes struggle because they lack skill or basketball smarts, but Soares and Moore absolutely don’t fit in that category. Both those guys had very nice all around games, and they also played incredibly hard. Neither is a great ball handler, but I don’t recall either of them making a lot of “dumb” mistakes.
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It's amazing what a year with our coaching staff did for their development.
 
daqman said:
I can. As I said earlier. If the NIL money isn't available for PM to buy good players and keep them around, you can't blame him for the results.
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$2.5 million should be plenty to put together an NCAA tournament roster. If he'd had any modicum of success after three years, he'd probably have more NIL funds, too.

Instead, he's had one really bad season and two others that were medicore, which isn't going to cut it, nor will it get people fired up to fund his NIL budget.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Duke has an unreal class coming in and I’d guess some of the guys leaving know they might be losing playing time if they stick around.
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Funny enough, I did a deep dive into their classes. They've had better classes in the past. Now granted, the top recruit coming in is supposed to be a can't miss prospect. So we'll see.
 
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