MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

[colston15]

End of the day, missing on Garrison is whatever. It sucks, especially for perception.

But if we pivot and add someone comparable. No problem. That’s a big if tho.

We currently have the worst roster in the SEC. Not sure how anyone could be more desperate than OU.

 

[Goldberg719]

End of the day, missing on Garrison is whatever. It sucks, especially for perception.

But if we pivot and add someone comparable. No problem. That’s a big if tho.

We currently have the worst roster in the SEC. Not sure how anyone could be more desperate than OU.

Vandy pretty awful, we might be ahead of them.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I just hope we make it past the deadline without Moore entering the portal. No indication he will, but I won’t feel confident till it’s no longer an option

 

[WTSooner]

The world has changed. Ole Miss/Texas Tech/Any Directional School can have an impact if they have one willing wealthy supporter.

They still have to believe in the coaching staff. Most aren't going to give money away regardless.

OU has plenty of wealthy donors and alumni (basketball). Why aren't they lining up to give to a Collective, buy naming rights for donating to have the new arena built, etc? I'd argue at this point it's apathy with the program and the coaching. We don't need to rehash what we've discuss on this site to the point of beating a dead horse, but the fact is Porter hasn't gotten anywhere close to max value out of the rosters he's been able to put together. The talent to be 2-5 games better, on average, has been there on paper (IMO, though I think I can support it with recruiting rankings). So sure, should the donors/alumni buy Porter better players, or should they wait until Porter can show "xyz" before the dollars flow in? I'd argue its the latter, and it appears the donors/alumni agree.

 

[colston15]

Vandy pretty awful, we might be ahead of them.

Lucky us.

 

[StoopsBros]

people have been wanting a Dell'Orso update


G Anthony Dell’Orso (Campbell) Anthony Dell’Orso had a huge breakout this season finishing second in the conference averaging 19.5 points and earning second-team All-CAA honors. Dell’Orso has had a handful of schools reach out and he has kept things relatively close to the vest. Dell’Orso is currently on a visit to TCU. A source tells me that he has also set trips to Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Vanderbilt moving forward.

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[cmdsooner]

End of the day, missing on Garrison is whatever. It sucks, especially for perception.

But if we pivot and add someone comparable. No problem. That’s a big if tho.

We currently have the worst roster in the SEC. Not sure how anyone could be more desperate than OU.

Vandy is apparently getting a Dell’Orso visit. Along with TCU (currently), Virginia, & Virginia Tech.

Edit: Beaten by SB

 

[StoopsBros]

Feels like OU could get Dell'Orso on campus if they wanted to. They must not want to. None of the schools being mentioned seem to be heavy NIL schools.

 

[StinkyPete43]

It sucks and shocking Garrison picked Kentucky, but it’s easy to see why, Texas and Arkansas have serious NIL money. Just look at the players those programs have brought in recently. Garrison chose Kentucky without a visit, so it most definitely came down to NIL money if he chose UK over UT and Ark.

Porter deserves some criticism, but not on this. OU did everything they could within their limits to get Garrison. The most logical fit for BG was OU. Close to home, starting position, and a great NIL deal probably not on Kentucky level but still a good deal most likely. Garrison still has a lot of development, maybe he’s thinking a few good years with top notch NIL money is the best for his future.

 

[hoopsaustin]

It sucks and shocking Garrison picked Kentucky, but it’s easy to see why, Texas and Arkansas have serious NIL money. Just look at the players those programs have brought in recently. Garrison chose Kentucky without a visit, so it most definitely came down to NIL money if he chose UK over UT and Ark.

Porter deserves some criticism, but not on this. OU did everything they could within their limits to get Garrison. The most logical fit for BG was OU. Close to home, starting position, and a great NIL deal probably not on Kentucky level but still a good deal most likely. Garrison still has a lot of development, maybe he’s thinking a few good years with top notch NIL money is the best for his future.

I think most on here keep drifiting into thinking with a "video game" mindset and not in the real world.. What % of you all WOULDN'T switch jobs for even only 100k more? 5%? Less? Imagine like 300-700k more being offered to you..

 

[rickjames]

Just sitting here daydreaming about the Kelvin years and returning our entire rosters for deeper runs in Big 12 play and the NCAA tourney. Sigh.

 

[cmdsooner]

I think most on here keep drifiting into thinking with a "video game" mindset and not in the real world.. What % of you all WOULDN'T switch jobs for even only 100k more? 5%? Less? Imagine like 300-700k more being offered to you..

If I thought one year at the lower salary could mean more exposure and a better opportunity to attain an NBA-type salary I’d choose that.

But obviously that might not be his line of thinking and maybe he’s right. Doesn’t matter, it’s over now.

 

[hoopsaustin]

If I thought one year at the lower salary could mean more exposure and a better opportunity to attain an NBA-type salary I’d choose that.

But obviously that might not be his line of thinking and maybe he’s right. Doesn’t matter, it’s over now.

Fair. Personally, id take the sure thing

 

[StinkyPete43]

Just sitting here daydreaming about the Kelvin years and returning our entire rosters for deeper runs in Big 12 play and the NCAA tourney. Sigh.

With the amount of money players are receiving with NIL and the ability to transfer multiple times, if your whole roster/team stays intact chances are that wasn’t a very good team. Unfortunately, college athletics is more semi-pro for now.

 

[WTSooner]

Fair. Personally, id take the sure thing

Are you all really shopping jobs like constantly, or annually?

I don't know anybody that does that. Just about anybody could change jobs and get more money. Wouldn't always be a lot more, but more. I could easily find a job that pays more than the one I have. But I like where I'm at. I like what I've built there. I like my path forward. I don't know anybody, personally, that is constantly shopping for the highest paying job they can find.

 

[colston15]

Are you all really shopping jobs like constantly, or annually?

I don't know anybody that does that. Just about anybody could change jobs and get more money. Wouldn't always be a lot more, but more. I could easily find a job that pays more than the one I have. But I like where I'm at. I like what I've built there. I like my path forward. I don't know anybody, personally, that is constantly shopping for the highest paying job they can find.

Do you know many 19 year olds with toddlers that don’t come from money?

You are completely out of touch.

 

[mict085]

From the start, I didn’t believe garrison would ever come to OU. He’s a poke. He looked for every opportunity other than OU. NOT surprised.

I think, fundamentally, Moser doesn’t understand the OU job at all and he’s in over his head. We all know the score. Win or get fired and we start over.

 

[cowboysooner]

Very few kids make it in the NBA. It is far more important that they maximize their ability and value, and thus their income, during the very short window they are in demand, ie when they are eligible to play college basketball and people will pay them enormous amounts of money to play. This very short window to make money will evaporate for almost all of them when they leave school and, like all of us, have to go into the world and actually earn a modest living if we are lucky. And, while a kid might not be mature enough to realize this and get talked into minimizing the only sure window in their life for making life changing money, the agents these kids get to have now are telling them exactly that. That is, expand the window of opportunity, don't shrink it. I hate it, but college basketball is just short term pro basketball and not amateur sports at all now. I love college basketball and hate pro basketball, I just hope I don't find the college game unwatchable going forward.

While I understand the opinions of some posters on here that are negative about the state of the program and Moser, I have found over the years of following OU basketball, I am far more understanding and patience with OU coaches including Moser. That being said, I have some complains and opinions but with the way college basketball has been in the last three years, I just don't know how much responsibility to put on the coaches now. There have always been differences between facilities, tradition, practice and game facilities etc, but these pale in comparison to lure and dispositive nature of money. Pro basketball is mostly about traits and not exposure or coaching. So, I have loved and followed OU sports since I was a child and have two degrees from OU, but I came from a family with very modest means, and if I had the option of playing basketball at OU for $200,000.00 and UCO in Edmond for twice that amount, it wouldn't have taken me 5 minutes to choose UCO. So, I get all of this from the players perspective. Doesn't keep me from hating the situation. As for Moser, I hope for the best. But, regardless of how good a coach he is, or how good the next coach is if we get one, they will always struggle to win if they have to play with players that get paid far less than our competitors. Just my opinion.

 

[WTSooner]

Do you know many 19 year olds with toddlers that don’t come from money?

You are completely out of touch.

My post has nothing to do with that?

The original poster, and posters before, have indicated that "we" (users of this board) shop our salaries and would switch jobs for more money. I was simply questioning that.

Trying reading the conversation you are responding to instead of trying to have an "I gotcha" moment.

And to answer your question, I actually do know quite a few young people with children that don't come from money. But again, we aren't talking about them. We're talking about "us."

 

[mict085]

Are you all really shopping jobs like constantly, or annually?

I don't know anybody that does that. Just about anybody could change jobs and get more money. Wouldn't always be a lot more, but more. I could easily find a job that pays more than the one I have. But I like where I'm at. I like what I've built there. I like my path forward. I don't know anybody, personally, that is constantly shopping for the highest paying job they can find.

I know a lot of people that do this and I know a lot of people that are afraid to do this. It’s not All about the money but it’s about knowing your worth. If your current employer doesn’t value your contributions there are usually others that do. You have to decide what’s most important to you. It all matters…salary, time off, location, stress of job…it’s not just the salary.

I do think some of these players are taking the most money regardless of the rest because it’s temporary. They only have to go somewhere for a year and then they can leave if they don’t like it or get a better offer.