NCAA source: "Unprecedented" penalties against Penn State

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Not basketball related, but interesting ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162...ented-penalties-against-penn-state/?tag=stack

(CBS News) CBS News has learned that the NCAA will announce what a high-ranking association source called "unprecedented" penalties against both the Penn State University football team and the school.

"I've never seen anything like it," the source told correspondent Armen Keteyian.

NCAA President Mark Emmert will make the announcement Monday morning at 9 a.m. at the organization's headquarters in Indianapolis.

The penalties come in the wake of the independent report by former FBI Director Louis Freeh that chronicled repeated efforts by four top Penn State officials, including former football Joe Paterno, to conceal allegations of serial child sex abuse Jerry Sandusky over a 14-year period.

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This has to be the most shocking/surreal thing to happen to a school. There's probably a hundred legendary level coaches I would think capable of this before naming Paterno. And the fact that this will likely basically take Penn State down for a while is just completely shocking.
 
Crimes against children have always been considered the worst by society and that should not change. I think most would agree hiding child abuse to protect your image is quite a bit worse than paying a few thousand bucks to a top player to improve your team. The punishment should fit the crime.

Sadly though, when guns are involved in crimes against children people rationalize, look the other way, put forth ridiculous arguments and we just wait for the next shooting rampage. Idiotic.
 
Boca I guess you are alluding to the murders in Aurora? How are people looking the other way? Is the perp not in custody? Is he not going to be prosecuted?
 
Yeah that does a lot of good to the 70 people who got shot and their friends and family. Or the 9,000 or so citizens shot and murdered each year in the US.

Only 20% of americans own guns now. 10% of women and 33% of men. Gun murders dropped 40% from 1993-2002 after the assault ban (Brady Bill) was passed. They have been rising since it was allowed to expire in 2004. This is not rocket science.
 
Yep we need gun control, yesterday. That way guns will never get into the hands of the people who perpetrate these heinous crimes. Talk about idiotic!
 
Well, they really should stop selling AK-47's to nut jobs. If someone wants to buy an AK-47, that should be evidence enough, that they are a nut job.
 
redfirecracker said:
Gary, an AK-47 is a fully automatic rifle. Those have been illegal for the average citizen to own since 1934.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

There are some semi-auto rifles that look like AK-47s that you can buy. But they aren't the real deal. I don't understand why people like them, but to each his own.
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The Military AK 47 as the US Military M 16 can be used as either an automatic or semi automatic weapon. It is just a matter of flipping a switch. The Colorado shooter was reported to have an AK 47. I have no idea how it was modified.

The gun nuts right to have whatever toy they want should easily be trumped by everyone else's right right to go to the movies without being shot.
 
I know it is the offseason and we allow a lot of off topic chatter, but politics are not allowed. If you want to talk about gun control there are thousands of better places on the web to do it.

On topic: I don't think the NCAA can swing the hammer hard enough. They would be doing the world, higher education, and the victims and their families a service by doing everything in their power to keep this kind of abuse from occurring ever again. I don't have a high opinion of the NCAA, but if that report is correct, it would restore some of my respect for them.
 
MNsooner said:
I know it is the offseason and we allow a lot of off topic chatter, but politics are not allowed. If you want to talk about gun control there are thousands of better places on the web to do it.

On topic: I don't think the NCAA can swing the hammer hard enough. They would be doing the world, higher education, and the victims and their families a service by doing everything in their power to keep this kind of abuse from occurring ever again. I don't have a high opinion of the NCAA, but if that report is correct, it would restore some of my respect for them.
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Fair enough and accurate on all counts.
 
coolm said:
yep. 5 year death penalty.
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Should be but I doubt it will be! Still PSU football (probably all sports AND the university) will be hit severely! They will lose lots of scholarships, a lot of players now on scholarship will be free to leave and will do so. So, their football program will almost immediately drop to the bottom of the B1G. They will have 50,000 to 70,000 attendance each game in a 100,000 seat stadium. I would be surprised if this doesn't have the same effect as SMU death penalty without the 'actual' death penalty being implemented. It would probably be more beneficial to the program if they DID in fact receive the death penalty. They are going to lose monumental amounts of money. B1G could reduce their conference share for a period of time. I'm guessing it will be 10 years minimum before this football program becomes relevant. Of course, the main point is that everything received will be totally warranted!
 
it floors me that a college football coach would actually cover this stuff up....and that an administration would follow suit.

incomprehensible and absolutely, positively indefensible. this whole episode would be SO different if someone had the chutzpah and intelligence to just expose it immediately.

no excuse. what they did was every bit as bad as SMU if not more so. DP is in order if it ever was.
 
coolm said:
it floors me that a college football coach would actually cover this stuff up....and that an administration would follow suit.

incomprehensible and absolutely, positively indefensible. this whole episode would be SO different if someone had the chutzpah and intelligence to just expose it immediately.

no excuse. what they did was every bit as bad as SMU if not more so. DP is in order if it ever was.
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Totally agree!

A short-term death penalty would be like a slap on the wrist for what Peterno and the Penn State admins did. They knowingly covered up the horrific crimes of a pedophile assistant coach who sexually abused little boys! If that's not grounds to bury the PSU football program for a few years, nothing I can think of will ever rise to that level. There aren't enough adjectives to describe how I feel about the scum bags who allowed this to happen!
 
Actually, this entire thing (the part relating to Paterno) doesn't really surprise me that much. The fact that the stayed on so long for purely selfish reasons when it was so obvious for so long that he needed to retire was indicative of something wrong inside him.

He had already demonstrated that he would do what was best for him and worst for everyone around him. I am not shocked he would cover this up.
 
Prodigal said:
Actually, this entire thing (the part relating to Paterno) doesn't really surprise me that much. The fact that the stayed on so long for purely selfish reasons when it was so obvious for so long that he needed to retire was indicative of something wrong inside him.

He had already demonstrated that he would do what was best for him and worst for everyone around him. I am not shocked he would cover this up.
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you're probably right.
 
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