No more Kansas City dominating.....

[SoonerSpock]

Uh, Missouri IS in the SEC so that works.

And of course KansasSooner wants it to stay in KC. NOPE most of my OU friends too think it is the dumbest thing the Big-12 has ever done. I’m getting ready to email Joe C (like my little opinion matters but it doesn’t hurt).

But at least you will get a reply from Joe C.'s office even if it is not the answer you want to hear.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

maybe they will revisit when OKC gets all its construction wrapped up...convention center, street cars, etc

 

[Crimson King]

OKC didn’t support it second time around because of Thunder fever.

It should be 2 in KC and 1 elsewhere.

 

[Sooner81]

What tax dollars are you talking about? You realize that the city of Kansas City pays the Big 12 for the right to host the tournament, right? And if they offer more than Dallas or OKC, then the Big 12 gets more money and Kansas City gets the tournament? That's how it works.

And everyone's thoughts are OK unless then involve tradition and a great environment? Then people's thoughts aren't OK? For OU's sake, I'd rather it be in OKC as well but you can't be shocked to find out that money drives every decision made by the NCAA, major college sports, and the athletic teams that fuel them.

20 million dollar local impact, that’s what they say, hotels food entertainment from everyone who attends. That’s a no brainer and you seem to be disingenuous by asking that question - we all know the huge impact something like this has. And again, MISSOURI HAS NO SCHOOLS IN THE BIG 12 - several of you who continue to argue for KC wont broach that topic - that’s the HUGE key. If Missouri had a school I would be OK for a rotation through there.

So if Orlando Florida offers more money should we move the tourney to Orlando LOL?

 

[BoulderSooner]

OKC didn’t support it second time around because of Thunder fever.

It should be 2 in KC and 1 elsewhere.

no it was becase of 1. an ice storm and 2 kansas lost early

 

[slappy in OP]

Living up here, I can tell you this year has been pretty weak on attendance. That being said, attendance nationwide for sports looks to be down.

I am totally fine with the tourney rotating. A healthy conference should want more exposure for its fans. Leaving only in KC is only a benefit for KU, KSU, and ISU.

 

[chuckb]

20 million dollar local impact, that’s what they say, hotels food entertainment from everyone who attends. That’s a no brainer and you seem to be disingenuous by asking that question - we all know the huge impact something like this has. And again, MISSOURI HAS NO SCHOOLS IN THE BIG 12 - several of you who continue to argue for KC wont broach that topic - that’s the HUGE key. If Missouri had a school I would be OK for a rotation through there.

So if Orlando Florida offers more money should we move the tourney to Orlando LOL?

That's not tax dollars. Are you serious? You're the one being disingenuous.

That's dollars from the visitors and people in attendance. It's money, but it's not tax dollars. If you seriously think it is, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I don't personally care if it's in KC or not except, as I mentioned, OU would probably benefit if it was in Dallas or OKC or, if it was in Houston, I could attend. But if you're going to rant on this topic 5 or 10 times you ought to at least base your rants on actual facts rather than whatever is guiding your mind when you post.

I also don't care if it's in Missouri since KC, Missouri is basically right across the street from Kansas. But stop saying this is about tax dollars when it isn't. It's about money, to be sure. What collegiate sports enterprise isn't? But those aren't tax dollars going to KC and it's absolutely false to say it is.

The Big 12 gets money from KC. KC gets money from tourists and visitors. I can't imagine anyone getting so bent out of shape about this as you are unless you financially benefit from the OKC or Dallas visitor's bureaus.

 

[Sooner24]

no it was becase of 1. an ice storm and 2 kansas lost early

That wasn't the Big12 tournament. that was the NCAA 1st-2nd round.

 

[Soonerinkc]

KC is NOT a basketball town...only for ku and to some degree ksu.

Every Thanksgiving we have the college classic...with usually big name teams, Florida, Duke, Mich St, Kentucky...blue bloods. NEVER sales out, only decently full if ku or ksu or missouri is in the game.

 

[opsooner]

KC is NOT a basketball town...only for ku and to some degree ksu.



Every Thanksgiving we have the college classic...with usually big name teams, Florida, Duke, Mich St, Kentucky...blue bloods. NEVER sales out, only decently full if ku or ksu or missouri is in the game.

I agree. KU likes KU and KSU likes KSU. Same as it is everywhere else. There is a reason the Kings are in Sacramento. I used to go to the NAIA tourney every year and it was never crowded but always fun games. I have been to some UMKC games and nobody ever there.

The only reason that KC is a better choice for the tourney is that KU and, perhaps, ISU are the only basketball schools in the conference. And, they are typically two of the best teams (always in the case of KU) so they will typically be playing more often. It is much easier for those fans to get here and they will typically sell out when they are playing.

If the finals were WVU vs Baylor it would still be empty here.


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[thebigabd]

Should rotate between Dallas, OKC, and San Antonio.

 

[Sooner24]

Personally I hope it never leaves Kansas City. OKC did a decent job and Dallas totally sucked.

Kansas City embraces the tournament. If you've never been to Kansas City for the entire weekend you have missed out on a great time. This year Iowa State being so bad, and losing on Wednesday, kept a ton of people away but there are still a lot of Cyclone fans still hanging around. Last nights session was only 65-70% full but there was not a school within 500 miles in the evening session playing here. West Virgina fans have had a good turnout considering the distance. One thing that hurts OKC and Dallas is the lack of Iowa State fans that make the trek down I35.

In 35 years I have missed 4 Big 8/12 tournaments and for my money keep it in Kansas City.

 

[Sooner24]

And I believe they should put the men’s and women’s back together. Women’s cant support themselves and when OKC had it and the fans could litteraly walk across the street and support their other team crowds were much better.

The women's and men's tournaments are going to be back together in two years.

Makes it great for me. Walking across the street for the women's and down the block for the men's. only thing that sucks is when the tip time are the same for the men and women.

 

[Sooner81]

That's not tax dollars. Are you serious? You're the one being disingenuous.

That's dollars from the visitors and people in attendance. It's money, but it's not tax dollars. If you seriously think it is, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I don't personally care if it's in KC or not except, as I mentioned, OU would probably benefit if it was in Dallas or OKC or, if it was in Houston, I could attend. But if you're going to rant on this topic 5 or 10 times you ought to at least base your rants on actual facts rather than whatever is guiding your mind when you post.

I also don't care if it's in Missouri since KC, Missouri is basically right across the street from Kansas. But stop saying this is about tax dollars when it isn't. It's about money, to be sure. What collegiate sports enterprise isn't? But those aren't tax dollars going to KC and it's absolutely false to say it is.

The Big 12 gets money from KC. KC gets money from tourists and visitors. I can't imagine anyone getting so bent out of shape about this as you are unless you financially benefit from the OKC or Dallas visitor's bureaus.

OK, excuse me MR Literal LOL. I’m sure you and everyone else reading my post understood I wasn’t talking about tax dollars overall(although there IS a lot of extra tax dollars generated, called hotel tax rental car tax etc that are all from visiting fans). So I will “correct” it for you since you didn’t get it HAHAHAHA. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT DOLLARS (good enough for you) that Missouri pulls in and I will remind you since you didn’t get the other part Missouri has NO college in the BIg-12 are 20 million + as I saw another article from KC about this today. So just for you I hope this explains it to you lol.

Oh, and there is also tax on the basketball tickets and all the food the visitors eat and all the entertainment they pay for, just sayin

 

[chuckb]

OK, excuse me MR Literal LOL. I’m sure you and everyone else reading my post understood I wasn’t talking about tax dollars overall(although there IS a lot of extra tax dollars generated, called hotel tax rental car tax etc that are all from visiting fans). So I will “correct” it for you since you didn’t get it HAHAHAHA. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT DOLLARS (good enough for you) that Missouri pulls in and I will remind you since you didn’t get the other part Missouri has NO college in the BIg-12 are 20 million + as I saw another article from KC about this today. So just for you I hope this explains it to you lol.

Oh, and there is also tax on the basketball tickets and all the food the visitors eat and all the entertainment they pay for, just sayin

Yeah, my mistake. I thought you meant that our tax dollars from Texas, Oklahoma, and the other states in the Big 12 went to Missouri when you said that Missouri receives our tax dollars. Sorry for that.

By the way, what would really spice up your posts and make them more intelligible would be if you added more words in ALL CAPS and a few more lol's.

 

[WTSooner]

Of course there is a tax effect (benefit) for a hosting city. It's that way with EVERY major event that cities host. Most of it probably comes from hotel taxes/fees and food, but there is gas, entertainment, and many others.

I agree that we probably shouldn't be having our tournament in a state with no Big 12 schools, but I do understand the history of having the tournament there. My biggest complain is that it should rotate. I'd be fine with 2 years in KC and a year somewhere else, or 2 years in KC, a year in say OKC, and then a year in say Dallas.

I'd argue the football CCG should move to, but there is certainly a benefit to having it in a domed stadium, and there are only two of those I believe in the Big 12 foot print (Dallas and Houston), and Dallas is the more logical fit.

 

[Sooner81]

Yeah, my mistake. I thought you meant that our tax dollars from Texas, Oklahoma, and the other states in the Big 12 went to Missouri when you said that Missouri receives our tax dollars. Sorry for that.

By the way, what would really spice up your posts and make them more intelligible would be if you added more words in ALL CAPS and a few more lol's.

Thanks so much Chuck for letting me know how I can be more intelligent lol. You are one funny guy or girl. This thread is about the subject and you turned it into attacking me the poster.

And by the way, if you went to high school or college you would know that capitalization is a way to emphasize something or call attention to it. Just thought I would help you

 

[SoonerSpock]

Thanks so much Chuck for letting me know how I can be more intelligent lol. You are one funny guy or girl. This thread is about the subject and you turned it into attacking me the poster.

And by the way, if you went to high school or college you would know that capitalization is a way to emphasize something or call attention to it. Just thought I would help you

So you bring new terminology to the conversation and Wichita is supposed to be aware by reading your mind? Your communication skill set could definitely be improved for better understanding.

But I concur KC, MO should not host a Big 12 function. There are 5 preferable states Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Iowa and West Virginia. One needs to take care of their own.

 

[Sooner81]

So you bring new terminology to the conversation and Wichita is supposed to be aware by reading your mind? Your communication skill set could definitely be improved for better understanding.

But I concur KC, MO should not host a Big 12 function. There are 5 preferable states Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Iowa and West Virginia. One needs to take care of their own.

Spock, thanks for the cut down lol - man this board is hateful. By the way Spock, I have 30 years in a high end industry in sells and 6 presidents clubs. My job depends on communication so i will go with that instead of your evaluation that I don’t communicate well lol

 

[SoonerSpock]

Spock, thanks for the cut down lol - man this board is hateful. By the way Spock, I have 30 years in a high end industry in sells and 6 presidents clubs. My job depends on communication so i will go with that instead of your evaluation that I don’t communicate well lol

You have established the cut down M.O. What comes around goes around. By the way it is sales not sells. One is a noun the other a verb. Should I say more. For certain your recognition in your chosen field if far less than were mine. But then I know the difference between sells and sales.