Ok state

Not sure how the 2015 class will turn out, Sherri knows OU needs to sign a 4 and a 5 maybe a wing/post. But we will need an Impact post player in this class not a Lyndsey Cloman type signee. Kay Kay at the moment as of today seems more like a bench player then a starter for a team who wants to compete for a conferences championship 1st then look to make a deep run in the post season next year.

Interesting side note every team in the elite eight had at lest 3 or more MacDonald All Americans, expect Louisville who has 2, but will be adding 2 more next year. Just shows the level of recruiting OU needs to return to.
 
Mac,
And Elite is the benchmark Sherri set for the program.
Not good, not average, Elite.
And to be Elite in women's hoops you have to have top talent. There's no coaching up average talent to the Final Four in the women's game.
The athletic talent disparity is so much wider in the women's game than the men's.

Now if Sherri is saving a ship for 2015's class because recruiting from their inside perspective
is going great. I'll be the first to laud Sherri's recruiting efforts if she signs a blockbuster class.
But as you indicated it needs to have length and athleticism.
 
Mac,
And Elite is the benchmark Sherri set for the program.
Not good, not average, Elite.
And to be Elite in women's hoops you have to have top talent. There's no coaching up average talent to the Final Four in the women's game.
The athletic talent disparity is so much wider in the women's game than the men's.

Now if Sherri is saving a ship for 2015's class because recruiting from their inside perspective
is going great. I'll be the first to laud Sherri's recruiting efforts if she signs a blockbuster class.
But as you indicated it needs to have length and athleticism.


Our last Final Four appearance was totally unexpected and definitely a result of coaching up.
 
Our last Final Four appearance was totally unexpected and definitely a result of coaching up.

Agreed.. And not to mention we had just signed Back to Back ELITE
Recruiting classes to get us to those final 4's
 
Last final four appearance was with
DRob
Amanda Thompson
Abi Olajuwon

all were McDonald's All American level recruits.
I'll give you Nyeshia Stevenson was a great recruiting evaluation.
And I'll give you that Sherri did an awesome coaching job that season.
But those 3 players were a huge part of the final four run.
 
The McDonald's All-Americans of the last Final Four team scored 18 of the 66 points that OU scored in the Final Four. The dominant scorers, Danielle and Nyesia were not McDonald's All-Americans, and both were taught to play their position after they came to OU. They were athletes.

We didn't even have our star, who was not a McDonald's All-American since she had been injured earlier that year.

It might be nice if we were to give the kids who have some ability a chance to develop it. I look forward to seeing what Maddie, Peyton, Nicole, Gabi, Sharane, Gioya, Gileysa, and Vionese can do since they may be better than anyone we had on that Final Four team, with the exception of DRob.
 
Last final four appearance was with
DRob
Amanda Thompson
Abi Olajuwon

all were McDonald's All American level recruits.
I'll give you Nyeshia Stevenson was a great recruiting evaluation.
And I'll give you that Sherri did an awesome coaching job that season.
But those 3 players were a huge part of the final four run.

True...AND...experience is the best teacher! They had been there the year before and knew what it took to make it back. The more players you have on the team that have been there, the better your opportunity to return. For right now, it's best to try to get back in the top 20.

PS...DRob was a McD AA finalist.
 
Let's recruit... a doctor. Not an athlete that's going into pre-med, but an actual doctor that will prevent all injuries or if necessary, immediately heal all injuries after they occur.

If we could get one of those and never have to worry about an ACL, MCL, PCL or LCL again (translation: anything involving the knee) we're golden.

Did you know there's a cute nickname for really bad knee stuff? Unhappy Triad.

Some basketball programs have a "big three." We have an Unhappy Triad. ****.
 
It is no secret that I am not a fan of a lot of the recruiting "discussion." Let's see if we can make a couple of points.

I have read that:

---Brooke Alexander is a huge OU fan and wants to come to OU.
---Brooke Alexander and Lauren Cox are friends and have visited OU several times on their own.
---Brooke Alexander is friends with Nicole Kornet and would love to play with her.

Then, I have read that:

---Brooke Alexander has had an offer from OU on the table for some time.

What am I missing here? What is the situation? I suspect that none of the "facts" that we know about Brooke Alexander are any more than speculation.

But, then, I look at what everyone is saying they want. We have about two scholarships for the next two years, and everyone seems to want a bunch of girls to play post. I see constant complaints that we have too many guards and not enough posts (or forwards as Notre Dame uses them interchangeably).

I also see that we need more McDonald All-American types. We won't get better unless we get the elite recruits.

OK. Well, Brooke is a 6-0 guard who is not listed among the elite prospects of Texas and is regarded as someone with a high basketball IQ, but less than ideal athletic ability. But, I also see that someone wants her more than anyone else.

Is there any inconsistency here? I see so little in the way of logic in any of this that I'd rather concentrate on whether Rick and Kate should let Martha do the flowers for the wedding on Castle than wrestle with the anxiety of recruiting when I have zero facts. Given that I know nothing, I think it might be an idea to trust the judgement of someone who built a program almost from scratch and became one of the better programs in the nation. I'm more concerned about whether we can keep a player's knees healthy than I am about whether we get the top recruits. I'd like our chances if we had not had knee problems with Chelsi, Erin, Whitney, Britney, and Maddie. If not for ACLs, I think we might have a title by now.

I rather hope that the prospects don't read the boards. But, I know that they do, to some extent. I've followed the boards with some football prospects, none of whom were recruited by OU. But, I hope that we don't offend a prospect by something that we say about her abilities or lack thereof during recruiting. I'm rather glad that a lot of the "inside" information is on a pay board, primarily so it isn't seen by the prospects.

I think that most of our McDonald's prospects can be traced to some link to Courtney, with the exception of Aaryn. I wonder if our next series of recruits like that won't come from a link to Dungee, Pierre-Louis, Penzo, or Ortiz?

I don't post a lot about recruits because I also see some negatives at times. One player that everyone has talked about was said to take a lot of time off during the game, not exactly a glowing recommendation. Do you want that prospect? The consensus here was yes.

I think I'd rather trust Sherri. Any more, we are as good as Tennessee and North Carolina every year, and they get a lot of great recruits, as does Rutgers. Every big name seems to mention Tennessee. Our recent history is as good as theirs.
 
True...AND...experience is the best teacher! They had been there the year before and knew what it took to make it back. The more players you have on the team that have been there, the better your opportunity to return. For right now, it's best to try to get back in the top 20.

PS...DRob was a McD AA finalist.

Some people don't think it matters where recruits are ranked. It would be interesting to know how many UCONN signees in the last 5 years who were NOT McD AA.
 
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Some people don't think it matters where recruits are ranked. It would be interesting to know how many UCONN signees in the last 5 years who were NOT McD AA.

There are only TWO of the ELEVEN on this years roster who were not McD AA. Ranking is important, generally speaking. It does not mean there is not a diamond in the rough out there somewhere, but typically the better players are playing in the toughest club tournaments from April through July. Bottom line. They are playing AGAINST the better competition as well. Too often some think that "Recruit A" from "Little Farm H.S." is the best player to recruit because she averages 27 points, 15 rebounds, 8 assist, 5 steals and 1 block per game, only to find out that she does not play any club tournaments and her high school team does not play any real competition.
 
I thought north carolina & tenn. were both better than we were this year.
 
There are only TWO of the ELEVEN on this years roster who were not McD AA. Ranking is important, generally speaking. It does not mean there is not a diamond in the rough out there somewhere, but typically the better players are playing in the toughest club tournaments from April through July. Bottom line. They are playing AGAINST the better competition as well. Too often some think that "Recruit A" from "Little Farm H.S." is the best player to recruit because she averages 27 points, 15 rebounds, 8 assist, 5 steals and 1 block per game, only to find out that she does not play any club tournaments and her high school team does not play any real competition.

Jenny Vinning...
 
Some people don't think it matters where recruits are ranked. It would be interesting to know how many UCONN signees in the last 5 years who were NOT McD AA.

Well, you peaked my interest...it appears that Geno keeps at least 7 McD AA's on his team at any given time.
 
Well, you peaked my interest...it appears that Geno keeps at least 7 McD AA's on his team at any given time.

I knew he almost always went after the top ranked players but 7 is amazing! I have said before that I don't believe you can win a NC with less than 2 McD AA to go along with other really good role players. Two very well could be low.
 
I knew he almost always went after the top ranked players but 7 is amazing! I have said before that I don't believe you can win a NC with less than 2 McD AA to go along with other really good role players. Two very well could be low.

I'm sure a NC has been won with as few as two McD AA considering there are only twenty-four each year.

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Seems like 3 most recently...other than Geno. I suppose if you have 9 you can have an undefeated season.

TAM won the NC in 2011 with 3 McD AA.
http://www.aggieathletics.com/ViewA...47&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=27300&ATCLID=205238855

Baylor won the NC in 2012 with 3 McD AA.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools.../2011-12/misc_non_event/1112-ma-section02.pdf
 
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I'm sure a NC has been won with as few as two McD AA considering there are only twenty-four each year.

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Seems like 3 most recently...other than Geno. I suppose if you have 9 you can have an undefeated season.

TAM won the NC in 2011 with 3 McD AA.
http://www.aggieathletics.com/ViewA...47&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=27300&ATCLID=205238855

Baylor won the NC in 2012 with 3 McD AA.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools.../2011-12/misc_non_event/1112-ma-section02.pdf

That shows it all starts with evaluating coupled with recruiting. Development comes next.
 
Since 2006 each team that has one a championship has had at lest one Micky D kid.
 
Every big name seems to mention Tennessee. Our recent history is as good as theirs
Look, I absolutely love OU and all, but they beat us in the head-to-head in OKC in the year before last's tournament en route to the Elite Eight.

I don't mind saying Tennessee's better. They were very classy in victory, postgame prayer and all
 
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