OSU penalties today....

What did Bilas want the NCAA to do then?

Bilas is saying this because he is a Duke homer. He knows the hammer could be brought down on Coach K and Duke. I think this is less likely than KU getting hammered. osu will probably be the only one penalized.
 
Bilas is saying this because he is a Duke homer. He knows the hammer could be brought down on Coach K and Duke. I think this is less likely than KU getting hammered. osu will probably be the only one penalized.

Bilas is most definitely not a Duke homer. He is also incredibly consistent on his views regarding the NCAA. I’d love to make a friendly wager regarding your prediction.
 
Bilas is saying this because he is a Duke homer. He knows the hammer could be brought down on Coach K and Duke. I think this is less likely than KU getting hammered. osu will probably be the only one penalized.

100% agree. He defends the bluebloods all the time, not just Duke. I've noticed his selective indignation. His holier than thou attitude towards the so called elites makes me sick.
 
Could someone clarify for me - when it indicates they will lose 3 scholarships over the next 3 years does that mean they will only have 12 scholarship players per year over the next 3 years or 10 scholarship players per year over the next 3 years?

It is one scholarship for three years. They will have 12 guys on scholarship. Nobody plays 13 guys but it hurts trying to build for future or getting last minute transfer.

They did fire Evans after he was caught by FBI. However he was named associate head coach and they raved about him when hiring Boynton. Boyton claimed he was like a brother.

The case against them was Evans trying to get Carroll and any others to an agent. What wasn’t proven was Juwan Evans handlers receiving something for his signing with the aggies.

College basketball has been a cesspool for many many years.
 
When North Carolina got away with years and decades of academic fraud my interest in the sport changed greatly. I'm tired of programs not having strong compliance departments and than acting all shocked when they get caught cheating. College basketball is broken and the deck is too heavly stacked against those who do play by the rules.
 
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I don't remember us being that outraged about the Gallen affair. It was pretty cut and dried that there was a violation by one of our coaches.
 
OSU thinks that just because they begged the NCAA and cooperated with them they would get a lesser charge. The don't make near enough money to really have that happen. Kansas and Duke on the other hand will likely get off light because of how much money the make
 
OSU thinks that just because they begged the NCAA and cooperated with them they would get a lesser charge. The don't make near enough money to really have that happen. Kansas and Duke on the other hand will likely get off light because of how much money the make

Complying used to be the strategy for most schools but I think that is changing. Missouri tried complying and self-imposing penalties with their football program and was stunned when they still got the bowl ban and additional sanctions. A lot of journalists who write rational, reasonable columns on this issue think that might be why schools like KU decided to fight the charges to the death this time.
And yesterday’s result for OSU likely makes KU feel good about electing to put their fate in the hands of the new, independent panel rather than the traditional infractions committee.
 
Is a 1 year post season ban, when they’d most likely be NIT, and the loss of 1 scholly for 3 years really such a devastating penalty? No. It definitely stings, but they’ll be fine with 12 instead of 13 for a few years.
 
Is a 1 year post season ban, when they’d most likely be NIT, and the loss of 1 scholly for 3 years really such a devastating penalty? No. It definitely stings, but they’ll be fine with 12 instead of 13 for a few years.

C'mon, at least pretend to be objective. They just signed their Wayman Tisdale / Blake Griffin. I could probably coach this team to the Dance.
 
C'mon, at least pretend to be objective. They just signed their Wayman Tisdale / Blake Griffin. I could probably coach this team to the Dance.

I tend to agree but Devil's Advocate points out Ben Simmons LSU and Michael Porter, JR didn't Missouri make the NCAA....
 
C'mon, at least pretend to be objective. They just signed their Wayman Tisdale / Blake Griffin. I could probably coach this team to the Dance.

That is true. I forgot about him. The post season ban will probably lead him to go elsewhere. However, these sanctions are not a death sentence. The worst will last for 1 season and then they’ll hardly notice it.
 
I tend to agree but Devil's Advocate points out Ben Simmons LSU and Michael Porter, JR didn't Missouri make the NCAA....

Missouri did make the tourney in Porter’s season even though he only played two games due to injury.
 
I'm not going to be shocked if they skate. But I would absolutely love it if Kansas, Arizona and Duke all got clobbered, especially the first two. KU and Arizona, back in the 80's, pretty much billed themselves as so morally superior (one idiot Tucson writer once referred to the Wildcats as "St. Lute and His Leaping Apostles").

I'm almost 63, so I remember back to the days of the OU football probation that was (A) incorrectly pinned on Switzer, and (B) became the battle cry in Texas for claims of OU buying players - when the whole thing had nothing to do with that. It was all about the transcripts of a couple of Galveston products that OU signed. OU got clobbered, and other "sacred cows" (like UT and Notre Dame, for two) got away with much more because of favored status.
 
Sorry if this has already been covered but does their ban include conference postseason?
 
I'm not going to be shocked if they skate. But I would absolutely love it if Kansas, Arizona and Duke all got clobbered, especially the first two. KU and Arizona, back in the 80's, pretty much billed themselves as so morally superior (one idiot Tucson writer once referred to the Wildcats as "St. Lute and His Leaping Apostles").

I'm almost 63, so I remember back to the days of the OU football probation that was (A) incorrectly pinned on Switzer, and (B) became the battle cry in Texas for claims of OU buying players - when the whole thing had nothing to do with that. It was all about the transcripts of a couple of Galveston products that OU signed. OU got clobbered, and other "sacred cows" (like UT and Notre Dame, for two) got away with much more because of favored status.

This also had more to do with the NCAA flexing it's muscles against OU than the actual offenses as well. KU, Arizona and Duke are "Good for Business" so the NCAA will do everything they can and so far have to only deal out slaps on the wrist.
 
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All lip service by OSU. They’ve been negotiating for awhile. They knew what was coming.

Ku will 3/4 year ban is my guess.

over under on this? I'd bet they won't get more than 1...maybe more scholarships pulled for longer...but no more than a yr..it's ku...
 
This also had more to do with the NCAA flexing it's muscles against OU than the actual offenses as well. KU, Arizona and Duke are "Good for Business" so the NCAA will do everything they can and so far have to only deal out slaps on the wrist.

yup
 
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