OU History and This Team

[Dem Coltz]

The history of OU bball was higher than I expected, #8 over the past 30 years which is great. That prestigious history, plus $1 will buy a Coke from a vending machine. $1 will also buy a Coke from a vending machine. The history of OU bball is just as useful during games. This team will win or lose based on the only thing that ever separates the winners from the losers: skill. Skill is the divider. Talent, training, smarts, effort and most importantly the will to win at every cost=skill.

When considering this program and its direction, the coaching etc, by all means consult the history books to judge. When considering this team, and how it plays from game to game, judge them by the skill they show, the effort they leave on the court, and their will to compete for the foremost place. I think we missed a great chance today to show how far we've come from last year, and we missed it because our will was lacking. Coach needs to keep 'em sharp, never satisfied and always desperate for wins. A hungry dog plays best.

 

[jerry]

The history of OU bball was higher than I expected, #8 over the past 30 years which is great. That prestigious history, plus $1 will buy a Coke from a vending machine. $1 will also buy a Coke from a vending machine. The history of OU bball is just as useful during games. This team will win or lose based on the only thing that ever separates the winners from the losers: skill. Skill is the divider. Talent, training, smarts, effort and most importantly the will to win at every cost=skill.

When considering this program and its direction, the coaching etc, by all means consult the history books to judge. When considering this team, and how it plays from game to game, judge them by the skill they show, the effort they leave on the court, and their will to compete for the foremost place. I think we missed a great chance today to show how far we've come from last year, and we missed it because our will was lacking. Coach needs to keep 'em sharp, never satisfied and always desperate for wins. A hungry dog plays best.

Oh how far we have fallen during the Capel years.

 

[thebigabd]

Oh how far we have fallen during the Capel years.

Ya... ive never seen the team and the fans so thrilled to lose a game by double digits either. Its a sign of where we are right now.

 

[Dem Coltz]

Oh how far we have fallen during the Capel years.

Actually you could cut and paste my post and fit it into any team's season that has ever played basketball. I'm not sure what the connection between Capel and my post is. All I was saying is judge our play in games and this individual team by what they are, not by the weight of history books. The past is a memory, it no longer exists. Everyone writes about how these players are the worst post players in 40+ years, our history of a top 10-15 program means we aren't allowed moral victories, this player never would have sniffed game action during that glorious season. And that's their right, as this is a message board for discussion of whatever is on a person's mind. But just consider this team and their play in games for what they are, not for what Wayman or Blake was. Those guys aren't walking through that door.

And to ABD I'm not sure who was "thrilled" about the Kentucky loss. But I think it's pretty reasonable that when many of our own fans predicted us to lose by 20+ and we had the ball down 6 with a minute to go, that is encouraging, or at least it means we exceeded our lowest expectations. The way we played for much of that Kentucky game would win us a solid number of games this year, and that glimmer of hope is what gets a fans' competitive juices flowing.

 

[CokeSooner]

I think moral victories need to be considered seperately from fans being realistic and being pleased with progress. Progress is the only way toward becoming a winning team again. No 'moral victory' about that.

 

[jerry]

Actually you could cut and paste my post and fit it into any team's season that has ever played basketball. I'm not sure what the connection between Capel and my post is. All I was saying is judge our play in games and this individual team by what they are, not by the weight of history books. The past is a memory, it no longer exists. Everyone writes about how these players are the worst post players in 40+ years, our history of a top 10-15 program means we aren't allowed moral victories, this player never would have sniffed game action during that glorious season. And that's their right, as this is a message board for discussion of whatever is on a person's mind. But just consider this team and their play in games for what they are, not for what Wayman or Blake was. Those guys aren't walking through that door.

And to ABD I'm not sure who was "thrilled" about the Kentucky loss. But I think it's pretty reasonable that when many of our own fans predicted us to lose by 20+ and we had the ball down 6 with a minute to go, that is encouraging, or at least it means we exceeded our lowest expectations. The way we played for much of that Kentucky game would win us a solid number of games this year, and that glimmer of hope is what gets a fans' competitive juices flowing.

Sorry with a top program which we aren't anymore there should be no moral victories. Do you think KState looks at the Duke game last night as a moral victory?? Do you think if Texas only gets beat by one to A&M tomorrow night that they will be happy??

Our program had become a top 15 program thru outstanding coaching and recruiting to each coaches strength. Now we aren't even in the top 50 and I doubt we get there anytime soon. Just because Capel played at Duke and his father was a coach doesn't make him a good coach. Let's face it the only time he was above .500 was with probably the best player that ever played at OU.

 

[CokeSooner]

Oh how far we have fallen during the Capel years.

UConn went 17-14 in 2006-2007, and 18-16 last year. Thats two not so good seasons in four years, but they're still considered a pretty good program.

 

[Max Power]

UConn went 17-14 in 2006-2007, and 18-16 last year. Thats two not so good seasons in four years, but they're still considered a pretty good program.

I get what you are saying, but 17-14 and 18-16 are still winning records.

 

[stoops4pres]

Ya... ive never seen the team and the fans so thrilled to lose a game by double digits either. Its a sign of where we are right now.

Agreed. Disappointing to say the least.

 

[DenverSooner]

Ya... ive never seen the team and the fans so thrilled to lose a game by double digits either. Its a sign of where we are right now.

I don't think anyone was thrilled with a double digit loss to Kentucky but I do think they were pleased that OU was at least within a striking distance with 2 minutes to go.