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that OU was very much in the game or 3/4th of it and that shots didn't fall tonight

When the shots don't fall MOST of the time, this far into a season, that is a pretty lame excuse for things. Fact is, we're just not a good shooting team. We're going to have "hot games", but for the most part, we aren't going to shoot any better than we have this season.

To not beat THIS KU team without their only good offensive player, in Norman, is pretty disheartening. This KU team isn't very good, compared to their normal teams.
 
When the shots don't fall MOST of the time, this far into a season, that is a pretty lame excuse for things. Fact is, we're just not a good shooting team. We're going to have "hot games", but for the most part, we aren't going to shoot any better than we have this season.

To not beat THIS KU team without their only good offensive player, in Norman, is pretty disheartening. This KU team isn't very good, compared to their normal teams.

brady for the season even after this game is 44.6 from the field and 40 from 3

he is a very good shooter who didn't have a good shooting game

Doo is 44.8 and 45.9 he is a very good shooter who didn't have a good shooting game ..

reaves was a 40 percent fg shooter who shot 11 percent
 
brady for the season even after this game is 44.6 from the field and 40 from 3

he is a very good shooter who didn't have a good shooting game

Doo is 44.8 and 45.9 he is a very good shooter who didn't have a good shooting game ..

reaves was a 40 percent fg shooter who shot 11 percent

You can't expect guys to shoot their average against KU, when that average was developed playing, in part, against MUCH weaker teams.

We're not a good shooting team.
 
When the shots don't fall MOST of the time, this far into a season, that is a pretty lame excuse for things. Fact is, we're just not a good shooting team. We're going to have "hot games", but for the most part, we aren't going to shoot any better than we have this season.

To not beat THIS KU team without their only good offensive player, in Norman, is pretty disheartening. This KU team isn't very good, compared to their normal teams.

Lol.
 
I don't know, maybe there's a reason we shot like garbage last night? Shot selection and a lack of offense come to mind. Our offense is literally one pass and then the guy that gets the pass tries to make an offensive move for a several seconds. If he doesn't shoot he passes to a guy that throws it up as the shot clock expires. How is this conducive to good shooting? Sure you can probably get away with this 1-on-1 basketball against bad defensive teams, but the meat of the Big 12 might prove a bit more challenging.

I don't understand the "well we didn't shoot well, we will get them next time!" attitude. This kind of basketball is not going to take us anywhere.
 
Also if the massive amount of 3 pointers we are throwing up there aren't falling maybe we should try something else? The problem is we don't do anything else competently on offense. Like I said in an earlier post, we have nothing else to hang our hats on, and don't get me started on Austin Reaves. Coach Kruger needs to have a long talk with him about his role on the team.
 
By the way, does anyone know why Alondes Williams only played 3 minutes?
 
Now that I have slept on this, I have multiple competing thoughts.

1.) OU was picked 7 or 8th in the league I believe... KU was picked first. OU is not supposed to win this game, so nobody should be real upset about that.

2.) However, when you compare it to the entire body of evidence over the past few years... I think those that are concerned about the direction of the program are still right to do so. I don't think a lot of these issues being discussed by the group are unfair, or can't be backed up with facts, stats, and valid opinions.
 
Now that I have slept on this, I have multiple competing thoughts.

1.) OU was picked 7 or 8th in the league I believe... KU was picked first. OU is not supposed to win this game, so nobody should be real upset about that.

2.) However, when you compare it to the entire body of evidence over the past few years... I think those that are concerned about the direction of the program are still right to do so. I don't think a lot of these issues being discussed by the group are unfair, or can't be backed up with facts, stats, and valid opinions.

This is true, but I think Dotson being out gave many of our fans false hope.
 
This is true, but I think Dotson being out gave many of our fans false hope.

Some thought we'd win even before it was verified Dotson was out.
Because they "objectively watch this team" and apparently think Seth Davis does as well.
 
This is true, but I think Dotson being out gave many of our fans false hope.

That and I, personally, don't think this KU team is very good, compared to what they normally put on the court. We'll have to let the season play out, but I'm guessing they fall short of what they normally accomplish.
 
That and I, personally, don't think this KU team is very good, compared to what they normally put on the court. We'll have to let the season play out, but I'm guessing they fall short of what they normally accomplish.

I agree. No one on that team really jumped out at me as being super talented. I caught part of the Baylor game and Dotson was already hurt but Baylor just dominated them.
 
That and I, personally, don't think this KU team is very good, compared to what they normally put on the court. We'll have to let the season play out, but I'm guessing they fall short of what they normally accomplish.

They didn't seem very good to me... I mean, don't get me wrong, its a good basketball team... but this would be considered a weak Bill Self Kansas team.
 
That and I, personally, don't think this KU team is very good, compared to what they normally put on the court. We'll have to let the season play out, but I'm guessing they fall short of what they normally accomplish.

Well they demolished Stanford at Stanford, a team that demolished us on a neutral floor... I know that one game might be an outlier but it really was a total beat-down.
 
Good defense, great ball control, terrible shooting & movement. I know Kruger is trying to space the floor for driving opportunities since OU has no inside game, but some movement & off ball screening would be welcomed.

I thought they played hard until the end, Bienemy and DH have started to pick it up which bodes well as long as Doolittle & Manek bounce back. Reaves & Williams need to pick it up on both ends.
 
Good defense, great ball control, terrible shooting & movement. I know Kruger is trying to space the floor for driving opportunities since OU has no inside game, but some movement & off ball screening would be welcomed.

I thought they played hard until the end, Bienemy and DH have started to pick it up which bodes well as long as Doolittle & Manek bounce back. Reaves & Williams need to pick it up on both ends.

Williams only played 3 minutes which I thought was odd.

What do you mean by "ball control?" We didn't turn it over? That's true but we didn't rebound it much either so it kind of evens out.
 
Williams only played 3 minutes which I thought was odd.

What do you mean by "ball control?" We didn't turn it over? That's true but we didn't rebound it much either so it kind of evens out.

Ball control as in low turnovers. I don’t know how rebounds & turnovers relate to each other.
 
Ball control as in low turnovers. I don’t know how rebounds & turnovers relate to each other.

A missed rebound is like a turnover in my opinion, the other team gets the ball in a situation in which you could have kept it or gained it. Kansas outrebounded us by 14 last night on a night in which we shot 31%, that's..... not good
 
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