Question for recruiting guru's

[thebigabd]

Do wins, losses, team record, etc matter to recruits when they visit a school? For example, when Jurick and Guerrero were here for the Texas A&M game, did they care that OU is struggling this year or that OU lost?

You could argue that they see an opportunity for playing time on a bad team, but then you could look at all the bad teams around the country and they aren't the ones signing a bunch of great talent, so that argument seems ineffective. But OU should still be able to recruit pretty well on reputation still.

Regardless, does bringing in recruits and then getting beat by 20 and having a bad season matter to the recruit at all?

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

I'm not a guru, but it cant help...


IMO you get the best players when you are doing well...why? because i feel the best players go to the best schools to play for championships and dont worry about the competition of playing right away, they are confident in themselves to play right away...

I am not saying that there arent excellent players that would rather go somewhere that is down and build a program or be guaranteed a starting spot right away (Blake is a great example)...but i think there is something to the mindset that someone is not afraid of competition...

I think Jordan was a great example of this, from the stories i have heard very few thought he would amount to anything at North Carolina when he signed out of high school but he wanted to compete and had confidence in his skills...

 

[campbest]

Too many variables to say...where a kid's from, what are his ambitions, etc.

But OU should still be able to recruit pretty well on reputation still.

In my opinion, this is one of the most overrated things in recruiting. Although OU has a very strong basketball history, perception is reality with these kids. They don't care about the 1988 National Championship game, doesn't resonate with them at all (especially kids not from this area).

Personally, if I was going through again, would put more emphasis on the coach. A lot of the schools are the same, programs go through cycles. I think a majority of kids pick the school they do (if they have a legitimate choice) because of the coach.

 

[Will_Jennings]

I'm sure it plays a factor, but a lot of things play factors, like, playing time, relationship with coaching staff, location, the university, chance at the NBA, and education. For a junior college prospect like Jurick, playing time and NBA chances could play a bigger factor than for someone like Guerrero.

 

[AdaSooner]

I doubt if the loss meant much. A kid like Guererro would see OU as an opportunity to start his freshman year and change the direction we're headed in now. The way we lost may cause him to think about it a little longer. By that I mean, does he believe he can team with the players on our roster next year and turn a 20 point loss at home into a win? IMO, he'll look beyond the outcome of the game to what the future holds for OU's basketball program. I have no opinion about Jurick and what he might have thought about his visit.

 

[DenverSooner]

I'm not a guru, but it cant help...


IMO you get the best players when you are doing well...why? because i feel the best players go to the best schools to play for championships and dont worry about the competition of playing right away, they are confident in themselves to play right away...

I am not saying that there arent excellent players that would rather go somewhere that is down and build a program or be guaranteed a starting spot right away (Blake is a great example)...but i think there is something to the mindset that someone is not afraid of competition...

I think Jordan was a great example of this, from the stories i have heard very few thought he would amount to anything at North Carolina when he signed out of high school but he wanted to compete and had confidence in his skills...

I personally think when high rated recruits go to schools that are bit down (or really down like OU's case) they tend to do so because they have a tie to that school such as a parent playing at that school, a sibling at the school or growing up near that school.

The one thing OU does have is impressive facilities. People complain about the LNC but the practice courts and other facilities are pretty nice and certainly more impressive than most schools and comparable with the best programs.

 

[Seymore Cox]

Yeah, if Carl Blair and Newell played great, it would make me think twice.

 

[scrybe]

I'm still waiting to hear what those gurus think. :ez-laugh:

 

[AdaSooner]

I'm still waiting to hear what those gurus think. :ez-laugh:

:ez-roll: :ez-roll:

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

 

[CarlWeathers]

i think it is a person to person basis. All kids want to win, I mean who doesn't. But if they have a good mentor (father, uncle, brother, etc.) who is helping them then I could see coaching, style of play, location, etc. might play bigger roles.

On average I would say kids want to stay within a state or two of their home state, play early, winning program, style of play, and coaching probably in that order.

Everyone is different though, so it is too hard to know what each kid is looking at the most.

 

[billyball]

I'm still waiting to hear what those gurus think. :ez-laugh:

 

[StoopsBros]

A little excerpt from a ($) article on scout.

“It went really good,” Guerrero told Scout.com about his visit to Norman (Okla.). “I saw them play against Texas A&M. Unfortunately they lost but it was a really good visit.”

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1038383.html

 

[DenverSooner]

i think it is a person to person basis. All kids want to win, I mean who doesn't. But if they have a good mentor (father, uncle, brother, etc.) who is helping them then I could see coaching, style of play, location, etc. might play bigger roles.

On average I would say kids want to stay within a state or two of their home state, play early, winning program, style of play, and coaching probably in that order.

Everyone is different though, so it is too hard to know what each kid is looking at the most.

I think many kids dream of going to schools like KU, Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina and perhaps a few others regardless of where they live. Those schools are just at another level compared to the rest of them (I hate putting KU in that group). After that I would say location has a lot to do with it.

 

[bocabull]

The good players know what's what. They know we had 3 guys leave us high and dry. They saw us in the elite 8. They see the trophy case. The pictures of the packed arena.

They know who Cameron Clark is. They know who Romero Osby is. That Jeff Capel is the youngest coach in the Big XII and one of the most successful.

Their parents have told them about OU memories. They get to meet Bob Stoops. Maybe catch a glimpse of Sam Bradford, Adrian Peterson, Ryan Broyles, etc.

OU has many built in advantages that work in our favor. Enjoy the short downtime rivals, because the foundation is already being put in place to kick your butts again.

And the smart recruits know it and want to be a part of it.

 

[scrybe]

I don't care what anyone else says about you, boca. I like your posts – and your attitude.