Had to listen and couldnt watch but: Kornet had 6 rebounds but otherwise was a liability. Carter is going to be a star. I love KayKay who will be our starting center before the year is over. Morgan is a total warrior. We've got to get better on our free throws. Got to learn not to foul(Kornet especially and Sharane and Carter). Our rebounding MUST improve. We were even on rebounds tonight but Gonzaga got FAR, FAR too many offensive rebounds. The opposition seems to be trying to keep the ball away from Vegas who doesnt seem to be getting the open shots she used to.
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Even though you didn't see the game, your thoughts are right on!
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Would you believe?
We ended up with a higher free throw percentage than Gonzaga (69.4% to 69.2%)
The way the game was called was ridiculous, but these closely called games work in our favor - 32 fouls on them, 23 on us.
I thought Carter was super kool playing a long time with 4 fouls and still playing in your face defense; also some key offensive plays.
Edwards held up OK in a pressure situation.
Ironically, in the pre-game radio interview, Bryan asked Sherri if she would ever play Griffin and Williams together. She said it was possible, but probably not much, since we didn't want them both tired at the same time. Then at the end of the game, we were almost forced to go with both of them because of foul trouble. We were well behind in rebounds before, and they dominated - we ended up +1 on the boards.
We ended up with a higher free throw percentage than Gonzaga (69.4% to 69.2%)
The way the game was called was ridiculous, but these closely called games work in our favor - 32 fouls on them, 23 on us.
I thought Carter was super kool playing a long time with 4 fouls and still playing in your face defense; also some key offensive plays.
Edwards held up OK in a pressure situation.
Ironically, in the pre-game radio interview, Bryan asked Sherri if she would ever play Griffin and Williams together. She said it was possible, but probably not much, since we didn't want them both tired at the same time. Then at the end of the game, we were almost forced to go with both of them because of foul trouble. We were well behind in rebounds before, and they dominated - we ended up +1 on the boards.
Kornet was our leading defensive rebounder. She blocks out. Durrett doesn't. She also did hit a three. If we don't use Kornet, we had better find out what Kellogg and Gibbs can do. Portia goes through mental lapses on the floor. Zero rebounds in eleven minutes. She just isn't doing it during the games. Kornet is trying.
Carter saved us when we were needing some spirit. Those two shots that she hit lifted us out of some low emotions at the time. I think we had just sat down Sharane with four fouls, and Sharane was about all we had in the second half. I haven't seen the splits yet. I wonder if we hit ten shots in the second half.
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Carter saved us when we were needing some spirit. Those two shots that she hit lifted us out of some low emotions at the time. I think we had just sat down Sharane with four fouls, and Sharane was about all we had in the second half. I haven't seen the splits yet. I wonder if we hit ten shots in the second half.
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The good part is that the Sooners are 3-0 and guaranteed 31 regular season games (barring cancels/forfeiture) despite not having a whole good game.
The bad part is the same. Louisville will be a very tough game. At least the game is in Norman and on national TV.
The bad part is the same. Louisville will be a very tough game. At least the game is in Norman and on national TV.
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Something you might not have heard on the radio is that 3 of Kornet's fouls were phantom fouls.
#34 was shoving unbelievably on their free throws.
#34 was shoving unbelievably on their free throws.
Did Louisville lose anyone? They shot 57% from the field against LSU. Harden was 1 of 9 for 4 points. Moncrief was 4 of 17 for 13.
Louisville had Asia Taylor 23, Sara Hammond 11, Bria smith 11, Shoni Schimmel 15, and Antoinka Slaughter 12. Didn't they all start last year?
Louisville had Asia Taylor 23, Sara Hammond 11, Bria smith 11, Shoni Schimmel 15, and Antoinka Slaughter 12. Didn't they all start last year?
Tubbs mentioned one official by name. I missed it. But, there were several "phantom" fouls. I didn't see a lot of whatever it was that they were calling. I know they weren't calling Gonzaga for over the back. I was surprised that Morgan was called for a charge twice. We were called for a blocking foul once when their players simply fell down, maybe falling into Kay Kay. But, she was within two feet of the floor when she got to Kay Kay. She was simply off balance. But, we did get a charge late in the game that Kay Kay took that was either way.. We got the benefit on that one.
Morgan was not happy with the officials at all. Kornet didn't say anything. Morgan chewed on one official during a stoppage.
Only thing that needs to be cleaned up is our foul shooting and someone needs to tell Griffin to get under the basket to try and get rebounds. She is alway about 5 ft. away. And Carter may be headed to stardom, however her try's to pass into the post were awful most of the time. I'll give her credit for scoring when it was needed.
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Rebounds don't fall "under the basket," only made shots do.
So pleased how this turned out. We have lost out of conference games lately to legit teams. The guys fought hard against a good team and we would have lost without every player's contribution. There is not a KayKay vs Griffin thing with these ladies. We needed them both to win this game.
Hook kicked some ass tonight. Vegas was the best player on the floor. I honestly do not see what anyone is annoyed about regarding any Sooner on the floor tonight. Well, maybe I am a little annoyed with the free throw shooting but statistics tells us we are normally better than that. Fun how the Zags imploded on the line late. Griffin did not. Carter arrived. KayKay was a a badass.
Seems like the team took some things personal after watching MoHook refuse to lose. She was my Mutron "Player of the Game". Also, TT handled herself well when things were for real.
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Hook kicked some ass tonight. Vegas was the best player on the floor. I honestly do not see what anyone is annoyed about regarding any Sooner on the floor tonight. Well, maybe I am a little annoyed with the free throw shooting but statistics tells us we are normally better than that. Fun how the Zags imploded on the line late. Griffin did not. Carter arrived. KayKay was a a badass.
Seems like the team took some things personal after watching MoHook refuse to lose. She was my Mutron "Player of the Game". Also, TT handled herself well when things were for real.
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Seems quite a few of Gonzaga's offensive rebounds were obtained by pushing off or pushing the OU player forward. OU could have flopped a few times to try to force more calls. OU's free throw shooting was bad...until crunch time then not sure if they missed. Seems like every time OU got a small lead, they would take a bad shot that would lead to an easy basket for the Zags.
Gioya had no fear and a couple of clutch shots. TT did fine; especially at the end. Morgan definitely deserved at least one of the charges she got; but will definitely need several days of ice baths.
Gioya had no fear and a couple of clutch shots. TT did fine; especially at the end. Morgan definitely deserved at least one of the charges she got; but will definitely need several days of ice baths.
Kornet had a bad shooting night and I think Sherri took her out of the game because she wasnt blocking out at all even though she had some rebounds. Glad to know that her fouls were phantom fouls but on the radio they were maddening. After Sherri took her out she didnt play much. Durrett had better start contributing or she will not get to play. She is big enough and I know tough enough, but somehow isnt really getting after it.
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Courtney made a living out of grabbing rebounds close to the basket.
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Five feet, close, under - three different distances. If you are five feet away and get shoved in the back, should put you at about the right distance.
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Beating a ranked opponent this early in the season is always a good win.
I liked the twin towers look that OU ended the game the last minutes.
Against teams with more height, Sherri needs to consider playing them more together if possible.
The only other takeaway would be it might be time to feed Kellogg some more minutes. OU needs more inside depth when the 4 guard look is not working and OU is getting out rebounded.
I liked the twin towers look that OU ended the game the last minutes.
Against teams with more height, Sherri needs to consider playing them more together if possible.
The only other takeaway would be it might be time to feed Kellogg some more minutes. OU needs more inside depth when the 4 guard look is not working and OU is getting out rebounded.
It's not particularly useful to compare anyone to Courtney or Griner. They were so unique that others can't really be held accountable for not being Courtney or Griner. Courtney was a one-person block out. It was almost impossible to go over her back because that often requires moving her. She didn't move easily. She also had some long arms and strong hands.
Griner was a mobile 6-8. It's kind of difficult to be a mobile 6-8 or to mimic one.
They both existed in a kind of never-never land of their own.
It serves no purpose to compare someone to them. The real issue is how someone matches up with the other posts that exist in the real world, like the posts that Kansas or Texas Tech has. In that realm, Griffin is pretty good. People find it difficult to shoot over her. For 6-6, she's pretty mobile and agile. I haven't seen anyone just rip the ball out of her hands this year like in earlier years. In fact, I've seen the opposite.
For the most part, OU has dominated in the first three games if we could get the ball inside to the posts. Our posts have outscored and outrebounded their counterparts. Gonzaga was difficult because they were getting some rather unusual bounces in that the ball just kept bouncing in the right place for them. Also, they were over the back a lot, and it wasn't being called, which was angering Sherri. The new emphasis on rules seems to have ignored a lot of the inside fouls. There were some interesting calls last night that some officials need to look at.
We had one charge called on us in which the player guarding Griffin stepped in front of the OU player and was still moving. It might have been better if the OU player had stopped and tossed the ball to Griffin who was now wide open, really wide open, under the basket. It was interesting that this was called a charge. Of course, with the game on the line, they called a charge on a Zag player when it was about the same type of movement by Kay Kay.
But, if they are going to call a charge on that, I think they should take another look at a foul they called on Morgan. The two players were side by side almost, and the Zag player began to move in to Morgan, still running primarily around Morgan. Morgan put her hands up to fend off the approaching player, kind of a defensive act. Her hands were within a foot of her body as they other player shoved toward Morgan. They called a blocking foul on Morgan. Really? I guess we need to modify the rule to permit self-defense.
There was another blocking foul which was totally absurd. The Zag player simply lost control as she dribbled toward the basket. She kind of fell near the side of the lane, falling toward the right side of the basket. When she fell, she brushed against Kay Kay at about knee level. Blocking foul on Kay Kay. Really?
There were a lot of calls last night on which I have no idea what they were seeing, going against both teams. The calls just made no sense. Unfortunately, they weren't showing re-runs of these fouls. In some cases, I saw no contact whatsoever. I'm still wondering how Griffin got her first foul when she wasn't within five feet of the action, or any action. I don't know that these officials were ready for the season to begin. I think they may need a couple of exhibition games themselves. They sure had the Zags coach confused.
Griner was a mobile 6-8. It's kind of difficult to be a mobile 6-8 or to mimic one.
They both existed in a kind of never-never land of their own.
It serves no purpose to compare someone to them. The real issue is how someone matches up with the other posts that exist in the real world, like the posts that Kansas or Texas Tech has. In that realm, Griffin is pretty good. People find it difficult to shoot over her. For 6-6, she's pretty mobile and agile. I haven't seen anyone just rip the ball out of her hands this year like in earlier years. In fact, I've seen the opposite.
For the most part, OU has dominated in the first three games if we could get the ball inside to the posts. Our posts have outscored and outrebounded their counterparts. Gonzaga was difficult because they were getting some rather unusual bounces in that the ball just kept bouncing in the right place for them. Also, they were over the back a lot, and it wasn't being called, which was angering Sherri. The new emphasis on rules seems to have ignored a lot of the inside fouls. There were some interesting calls last night that some officials need to look at.
We had one charge called on us in which the player guarding Griffin stepped in front of the OU player and was still moving. It might have been better if the OU player had stopped and tossed the ball to Griffin who was now wide open, really wide open, under the basket. It was interesting that this was called a charge. Of course, with the game on the line, they called a charge on a Zag player when it was about the same type of movement by Kay Kay.
But, if they are going to call a charge on that, I think they should take another look at a foul they called on Morgan. The two players were side by side almost, and the Zag player began to move in to Morgan, still running primarily around Morgan. Morgan put her hands up to fend off the approaching player, kind of a defensive act. Her hands were within a foot of her body as they other player shoved toward Morgan. They called a blocking foul on Morgan. Really? I guess we need to modify the rule to permit self-defense.
There was another blocking foul which was totally absurd. The Zag player simply lost control as she dribbled toward the basket. She kind of fell near the side of the lane, falling toward the right side of the basket. When she fell, she brushed against Kay Kay at about knee level. Blocking foul on Kay Kay. Really?
There were a lot of calls last night on which I have no idea what they were seeing, going against both teams. The calls just made no sense. Unfortunately, they weren't showing re-runs of these fouls. In some cases, I saw no contact whatsoever. I'm still wondering how Griffin got her first foul when she wasn't within five feet of the action, or any action. I don't know that these officials were ready for the season to begin. I think they may need a couple of exhibition games themselves. They sure had the Zags coach confused.
