Sooners vs. KU

soonermom1000 said:
Taylor played 30 minutes......Not 11.......
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You are right. My bad I miss read the box score. I read Penzo's minutes from the line below. I was also not thinking as I was at the game and knew Taylor had played over half the game. Old farts sometimes lose the ability to use their grey matter.
 
Oliver Hardy said:
I thought they hit more than that last time. It sure seemed like it, but I didn’t verify the numbers.

Nevertheless, it was good they didn’t hit many tonight.


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You are absolutely correct. I have to question the Kansas coach though. The 'hawks have shot better than 22 3's per game and shooting 10% worse than the Sooners BTA and have taken about 100 more 3's than our girls. Of course with OU's perimeter defense this year he may have thought that was his chance for another win.
 
I'll take any kind of win. Even over a terrible KU team.
Llanusa lately seems like she might lead this team out of this abyss.
Madi Williams showing signs as well.

Shocked Tatum has not joined them. Stunned Shaina is circling the drain still.
Beyond those 4 I'm not sure who is actually a Big 12 player. Robertson's shot clearly is, but the rest of her game is iffy.


Still a win is a win after 10 losses in a row. And they could have found a way to lose this game as well.
 
OK, good to get a win BUT remember it was against KU at home etc. I don’t see another win this year, hope I’m wrong.
 
If we could win at Tech and bedlam that would be 3 wins in our last 7 regular season games. After what we has seen from this team this year those 3 wins would have to be deemed progress. Just very late coming.
 
Congrats on the win. Recap here...

NORMAN — Ana Llanusa scored 21 points and Madi Williams had a double-double (18 points, 11 rebounds) Wednesday night to help Oklahoma ended a 10-game losing streak with a 78-67 Big 12 victory over Kansas.

Jessi Murcer added 12 points and Taylor Robertson 10 for the Sooners (6-17, 2-10 Big 12), who shot 49 percent from the field. OU had not won since beating Texas Tech 66-61 on Jan. 2.
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OSU apparently is every bit as bad as us, so we might get a win there.

This team just can’t defend, can’t rebound and it’s a turnover machine, particularly TV.

I love TR and I’m so happy she is living her dream, but she’s a one-trick pony.

This team lives or dies for the rest of the season with AL and MW. If one is cold or in foul trouble and sitting, we are basically dead meat.

Let’s not forget folks — this WAS KANSAS and we struggled to beat them.


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Texas Tech almost beat West Virginia last night. I think they are a better team at home than on the road. OSU? who knows?

The good thing about ending in 7th or 10th place is that if you can manage to win Friday nite at the Big 12, then you meet the 2 seed, probably Texas? Which is a lot better match up than the 8th or 9th seed that plays Baylor.

That is going to be the only tournament we will be seeing this post-season.
 
The fact is that we did beat Kansas, and Kansas did beat Kansas State on the road. Things happen. We played a team that starts four seniors and a sophomore, and we beat them solidly, except at the free throw line in Lawrence. This time, we cut down on mistakes at crunch time just enough to keep from beating ourselves, barely. We tried to make the mistakes.. But, we also made some offensive and defensive plays to win.

I think it is correct that we have Madi and Ana. Shaina seems to have some issues. Taylor will be an excellent sixth man if we get a couple of other scorers on the floor where they can''t concentrate on her at the free throw line. Welcome Gabby and Liz. Sherri says Tatum will have it together by the end of this year (a week ago). Jessi?

Is Lampkin beginning to be valuable? Wonder what a summer will bring there.

It was valuable to have Penzo settle some things down. Finally, she behaved like a senior.
 
sybarite said:
The fact is that we did beat Kansas, and Kansas did beat Kansas State on the road. Things happen. We played a team that starts four seniors and a sophomore, and we beat them solidly, except at the free throw line in Lawrence. This time, we cut down on mistakes at crunch time just enough to keep from beating ourselves, barely. We tried to make the mistakes.. But, we also made some offensive and defensive plays to win.

I think it is correct that we have Madi and Ana. Shaina seems to have some issues. Taylor will be an excellent sixth man if we get a couple of other scorers on the floor where they can''t concentrate on her at the free throw line. Welcome Gabby and Liz. Sherri says Tatum will have it together by the end of this year (a week ago). Jessi?

Is Lampkin beginning to be valuable? Wonder what a summer will bring there.

It was valuable to have Penzo settle some things down. Finally, she behaved like a senior.
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I'm glad you mentioned Penzo. She was a hidden secret to last night's victory. When she came in we were trailing by 5 or so points and things were not looking good. At the point guard she seemed to galvanize the team and we caught up and went ahead. I think she had three or four assists and had one or two more passes which should have resulted in goals. It was temporary but the others continued to play well after she went out. I think her leg did not heal properly. She still limps.
 
TCU beat IA St. 76 to 69 IA ST shot 6 of 9 free throws and TCU shot 22 of 29.................Glad our girls didn't foul as much as our first Kansas game. Makes a LOT of difference. I think the TCU coach has them headed in the right direction.
 
Yeah we need a younger ambitious coach like what TCU has. Their whole staff in fact.
 
Good to win but spotty game.

Feel some over top shots at individual players. We have more than two potentially good Div I players.

Plenty to complain about without diminishing the players. When things don't work it is usually the system rather than the people.

I watched the first quarter, replaying most action in slow motion. My interpretation.

Made 8 baskets. Missed a number, four of which were foreced shots with no hope of connecting. Same as turnover as we didn't rebound any.

7 turnovers with at least 5 on passes with little or no hope of connecting. Several on bounce passes.

Mostly one on one play, exceptions nice feeds by Taylor and Maddi for tip off layup by Ana. Also nice feed to Murcer for midrange jumper. Someone got an offensive rebound to Taylor for a trey.

Kansas two easy fast break baskets where Simpson was one of the few who got back. Where were the guards? Grade school teams have players staying back on offensive rebound attempts.

The 5 bad turnovers and four forced shots are lost opportunities for points. The Sooners shot 49+ percent for the game. So 8-10 points down the drain due to bad decisions. This quarter is typical of most of the season and of seasons past. This rather than pointing the finger at the kids should be our main concern.

Add to that, the reining freshman of the year for 2017-2018 played only 8 minutes, scored 2 points, one rebound and four turnovers.

Another problem was the number of wide open threes shot by Kansas. Often the player who was responsible to close out on the three point shooter was all the way in the paint and had no chance to close. Our inside weakness is possibly the reason we are sinking so much in the middle but as long as we do so we will give up an awful lot of three pointers.
 
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Good stuff, NC.

With some teams, I'd rather sag in and let them shoot threes. We have been burned a couple of times. But, if a team is a 30% three team, we the odds would suggest that we let them take them. Concentrate on getting the boards and preventing the attacks in the lane. We get hurt a lot worse by the 6-2 guys getting position to get inside and drive as well as get rebounds. UConn, Kansas, WV, and Texas hurt us on that more than on threes. So, occasionally, they get lucky on threes for a night. Often, that comes from momentum. Get the boards and don't throw it away. Don't create their run for them. There is no way WV and K State should hit a high percentage of threes. But, they get momentum when we start making mistakes.

The most frustrating turnovers to me are the soft passes by Jessi, Tatum, and Taylor. They were all stars in HS, and nobody ever intercepted their passes. They just seem to have no idea that there is someone right there to take the pass almost out of their hands,, sometimes just dribbling into a turnover as though they will just let you have a clean drive to the rim. They can cut down on about eight turnovers per game just by paying attention to the fact that they are in college.

The internal passing also tends to create turnovers. Courtney isn't there. We haven't had anyone with Courtney's hands since she left. Every other post that we have had might well not be able to catch a pass lower than waist high, or a bounce pass. We have had a lot of interior players who can't catch or make a move without losing it.

Our mistakes can be corrected with experience. They do need to get the idea that they aren't in HS any more.

I've seen enough to know that Madi, Jessi, Taylor, Tatum, and Nydia have something to contribute.
 
sybarite said:
Good stuff, NC.

With some teams, I'd rather sag in and let them shoot threes. We have been burned a couple of times. But, if a team is a 30% three team, we the odds would suggest that we let them take them. Concentrate on getting the boards and preventing the attacks in the lane. We get hurt a lot worse by the 6-2 guys getting position to get inside and drive as well as get rebounds. UConn, Kansas, WV, and Texas hurt us on that more than on threes. So, occasionally, they get lucky on threes for a night. Often, that comes from momentum. Get the boards and don't throw it away. Don't create their run for them. There is no way WV and K State should hit a high percentage of threes. But, they get momentum when we start making mistakes.

The most frustrating turnovers to me are the soft passes by Jessi, Tatum, and Taylor. They were all stars in HS, and nobody ever intercepted their passes. They just seem to have no idea that there is someone right there to take the pass almost out of their hands,, sometimes just dribbling into a turnover as though they will just let you have a clean drive to the rim. They can cut down on about eight turnovers per game just by paying attention to the fact that they are in college.

The internal passing also tends to create turnovers. Courtney isn't there. We haven't had anyone with Courtney's hands since she left. Every other post that we have had might well not be able to catch a pass lower than waist high, or a bounce pass. We have had a lot of interior players who can't catch or make a move without losing it.

Our mistakes can be corrected with experience. They do need to get the idea that they aren't in HS any more.

I've seen enough to know that Madi, Jessi, Taylor, Tatum, and Nydia have something to contribute.
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I'm glad you are so optimistic and think it's just going to take experience. Although you are completely biased and unrealistic. When's the last time a class got better year after year? this last class that graduated certainly did not get better over the years. The class before that didn't either. We might have to go as far back to Daniel Robinson's class in order to prove your point. You are of the opinion that if they just stick to it and everything else stays the same miraculously things will get better. It's a joke.
 
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