Strength of Schedule

[sybarite]

You still haven't said anything about Oregon state losing by 1 to notre dame. Also do you understand that on any given night a lesser team can beat a team? I don't think north Texas is better than OU but OU lost that game. That's why you rank teams according to there body of work.

The Portland trailblazers beat the cavs by 30 and without Damion lillard.......so do you think Portland is better? Or do you want to go and say well they played this team close and beat this team.

Just stop trying to make everyone else's wins look less important than OU's. I do think Baylor's schedule was very soft but i do think Texas had a few good wins.

Nobody said Texas didn't have good wins. They just aren't what they appear to be. Stanford and Tennessee are not that good this year. Mississippi State still hasn't beaten anyone at all. Close counts for what? SMU almost beat Mississippi State (two points), after losing to North Texas by three. So, North Texas is better than Mississippi State?

That is the point. OU's schedule, with Utah, BYU, A&M, BC, and Washington, is probably stronger as a group than that of the Texas schedule. If they eight teams mentioned were to play in a conference, which team would emerge?

Nancy isn't going to lead Old Dominion to the Finals this year. What has each team done this year to establish their reputation?

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

It is just so difficult to compare teams at this point in the season. Lots of gimme games, Some teams playing almost everything at home, etc.

The unfortunate thing is at the end of the year lots of wins plays a huge role in seeding.

Look at last year. We were obviously better than Texas. We finished 2nd, 4 games ahead of Texas in the conference. But we played too hard a schedule early (mostly on the road - and much like this year). So at the end, They got a better seed/assignment than us and got to play Cal in the 2nd round. We got Stanford - on their court. But when Texas played UConn in the 3rd round they got totally demolished 105-53 or something like that. That is what happens to a team that shows their skill in a season long conference race and ties for 3rd-6th place and loses half their games.

Had we won 2 or 3 more games early it would have made all the difference in our seed and our placement. In fact we likely would have had a home assignment in rounds 1 and 2.

 

[SoonerNorm]

You still haven't said anything about Oregon state losing by 1 to notre dame. Also do you understand that on any given night a lesser team can beat a team? I don't think north Texas is better than OU but OU lost that game. That's why you rank teams according to there body of work.

The Portland trailblazers beat the cavs by 30 and without Damion lillard.......so do you think Portland is better? Or do you want to go and say well they played this team close and beat this team.

Just stop trying to make everyone else's wins look less important than OU's. I do think Baylor's schedule was very soft but i do think Texas had a few good wins.

Oregon St only used 7 different players. I believe we would play better if we only used T'ona, ViVi, and maybe Treece off the bench. I'm fairly sure we would not have lost to N. Texas if we would have only gone 7-8 deep.

 

[skilledserv]

Nobody said Texas didn't have good wins. They just aren't what they appear to be. Stanford and Tennessee are not that good this year. Mississippi State still hasn't beaten anyone at all. Close counts for what? SMU almost beat Mississippi State (two points), after losing to North Texas by three. So, North Texas is better than Mississippi State?

That is the point. OU's schedule, with Utah, BYU, A&M, BC, and Washington, is probably stronger as a group than that of the Texas schedule. If they eight teams mentioned were to play in a conference, which team would emerge?

Nancy isn't going to lead Old Dominion to the Finals this year. What has each team done this year to establish their reputation?

So the Oregon state loss to Notre dame means nothing? :facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

 

[sybarite]

So the Oregon state loss to Notre dame means nothing? :facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

About the same as SMU's two point loss to Mississippi State.

 

[zacj33]

Texas got a lot of credit for beating Stanford, Tennessee, and Texas A&M last year in the non conference. That is why they were the same seed as us last year. They also played the 4 seed on their home court in the 2nd round, but they won. Cal was just as good as Stanford was last year.

If we had a weak non conference schedule every year, I am afraid we would be more like OSU. Not ever competing for championships, just always being barely good enough to make it in the tournament.

I like having a tough non conference schedule every year. We just can't lose to teams like North Texas if we are going to schedule like that.

 

[skilledserv]

About the same as SMU's two point loss to Mississippi State.

Hope the other parent in your relationship isn't the same.....if so these kids of yours will get away with anything

If you use a certain way to make a case for OU's strength schedule, only right you use the same method when discussing other teams. I agree with you when making your case but why can't we apply this for all the kids and not just yours

 

[skilledserv]

Texas got a lot of credit for beating Stanford, Tennessee, and Texas A&M last year in the non conference. That is why they were the same seed as us last year. They also played the 4 seed on their home court in the 2nd round, but they won. Cal was just as good as Stanford was last year.

If we had a weak non conference schedule every year, I am afraid we would be more like OSU. Not ever competing for championships, just always being barely good enough to make it in the tournament.

I like having a tough non conference schedule every year. We just can't lose to teams like North Texas if we are going to schedule like that.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Texas best guard was hurt and there beat post player was hurt and it was early on in conference play.

 

[sybarite]

Hope the other parent in your relationship isn't the same.....if so these kids of yours will get away with anything

If you use a certain way to make a case for OU's strength schedule, only right you use the same method when discussing other teams. I agree with you when making your case but why can't we apply this for all the kids and not just yours

My approach to you, Norm, and the others who come on this board is simple. You come on here stating your case that Baylor and Texas are superior to OU, and that OU and Sherri Coale are falling behind. Neither you nor Norm (or any of the others who make the appearance to criticize Sherri or OU) appreciate anything that calls into question your claims of superiority.

Very simply, you claimed that a one point loss was a strong case for Oregon State. If so, why isn't a two-point loss a strong case for SMU? My logic was consistent. You didn't like it that once again I challenged the constant rain of anti-OU, pro-Texas, pro-Baylor nonsense that you came to perpetuate, with the support of Norm who has been on that case for years.

Let me assure you that as long as you persist on being anti-OU and anti-Sherri, I will oppose you. This does happen to be an OU board, or so it says in the name.

 

[sybarite]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Texas best guard was hurt and there beat post player was hurt and it was early on in conference play.

Enempkali was not injured until after Texas had begun conference play with losses, and she was the best interior player. That "best guard" is another sensational Texas recruit who was 36% from the field and 28.8% from three, hardly earth-shattering statistics.

Why does Texas get a pass due to injury while OU doesn't. Want to add up injuries?

 

[Mac]

I think some people like to live in the past here, it seems like because OU got 2nd place in the big 12 last year and beat Texas, some of you think the same thing will happen again.

 

[sybarite]

I think some people like to live in the past here, it seems like because OU got 2nd place in the big 12 last year and beat Texas, some of you think the same thing will happen again.

Are you sure it won't?

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Texas got a lot of credit for beating Stanford, Tennessee, and Texas A&M last year in the non conference. That is why they were the same seed as us last year. They also played the 4 seed on their home court in the 2nd round, but they won. Cal was just as good as Stanford was last year.

If we had a weak non conference schedule every year, I am afraid we would be more like OSU. Not ever competing for championships, just always being barely good enough to make it in the tournament.

I like having a tough non conference schedule every year. We just can't lose to teams like North Texas if we are going to schedule like that.

That win against Stanford was impressive. Not because of how well Stanford played - they did not. But because Texas had to overcome the same home court officiating OU faced in Palo Alto in the tourney - and won anyway. If I recall, Texas had a couple of kids fouled out and at least oen more with 4 fouls. Stanford shot nearly 40 free throws.

But Texas won anyway. Mostly because Stanford could not hit anything that day. They shot around 20% on 3's, and not too much better overall.

The other two were mostly because they caught teams on bad days. UCLA was a lousy team. If I recall, the UCLANs had not won a single game all year at that point - and could not hit anything. Tennessee shot terribly - a lot like we did against NT this year.

They were all still nice wins. But no way that tells more about Texas last year than an 18 game conference schedule. That is why conference titles are valued so highly.

OU hurt themselves by playing poorly in the Big-12 tournament. It ended up costing us a lot.