They're Sooners

[SOONERGRAD]

NorthCarolinaSooner I don't think soonernorm is trying bait you or troll. It just some people have thoughts and other's on the board does not agree. They tend to attack. I really think you have great basketball background unlike others.

Thank you! You all act like he is taking personal shots at Nancy! He is just stating his opinion! You all do not have to agree with it!
If you all actually observed what he actually posted he gave very in depth posts about other recruits too! Not just Nancy! It's a shame when everyone wants to attack another about sharing his own personal opinion. He lives in the Houston area, he's a scout, and probably has more basketball knowledge than 90% of the posters on here. It's an opinion, you all can argue with it and disagree all you want but it is still not going to change this persons opinion of what he observed.

And to Syb and NorthCarolinaSooner: Myself followed the USA trials and the u16 teams are absolutely bogus! 5 of the Best players did not make the team! It was pure politics. Most of the girls selected were from the Westcoast and the coaches were from the Westcoast. They were average players to me. The best player at the trials Rellah Boothe did not make the team, Didi Richards did not make the team, neither did Charli Collier,or Christlyn Williams. The team was not picked right at all which is why they received the Bronze medal.

U16 is pure politics, they know who they want from the start. They could care less who is the best and the #1 player in the nation Megan Walker did not even attend! Neither did Chassity Patterson.

So to say to that Dungee or Nancy is the better player because they have gold medals with u16 means nothing in my mind. Not taking anything from them. You cannot teach 6'9, I think Nancy will be a major Defensive presence for the Sooners but it is going to take some time. I think coach Pam works with the post and does an amazing job with them.

Get off the basketball world "Hype" and start focusing on girls who can actually play! Many top recruits do not attend these USA trials. That does not make them any less of a player than the ones who do attend.

Perfect Example: Aaliyah Wilson and Ty Harris. Wilson is by far the best player in the state of Oklahoma and Harris is by far the best player in the state of Indiana. Neither have USA backgrounds.. Does that make them any better than the ones who have?

 

[SoonerNorm]

NorthCarolinaSooner I don't think soonernorm is trying bait you or troll. It just some people have thoughts and other's on the board does not agree. They tend to attack. I really think you have great basketball background unlike others.

I have no doubt he knows basketball. I would never attempt to say otherwise. But, I'm sure he would agree that if he had watched her play in games over the last couple of years, he would be able to talk about specifics that he doesn't know now.

I compare every center to Courtney. She was great from day one. She had a passion for basketball. She seldom fouled out of games. She scored a ton of points. She was the most prolific rebounder ever. She defended. She did it all except shoot free throws.

Nancy's stats are not close to Courtney's. Right now she averaging less than 6 ppg. She has a history of foul problems. Everyone on this board wants her to improve and become a dominant player. We NEED for her to be dominant. I know she will be s different player from Courtney but we still need for her to score, rebound, and defend. Blocks are gravy. Time will tell how much she improves over the next year or two. Being 6'9" with some skills, there is plenty of room for improvement. I'm hoping Sherri can help her become a great center.

 

[SoonerinNC]

I saw at least one of Nancy's state playoff games last year (on the internet) maybe two. I know I saw the state championship.

I was impressed with her mobility for her height and the touch on her shots. She appears to have range out to the free throw line. She was not agressive to score like Courtney but seems to have the ability to score inside (most 6-9 players do).

I think initially her strengths will be defense and feeding others who score, but ultimately her offensive game should develop into a strength. When she was out of the game her team struggled on both offense and defense, when she came back in her team took off and won convincingly in the state championship game. That says a lot to me.

You never know how a player will adjust to the faster pace of the Div I game but I will be very suprised if Nancy has a problem. I think Dungee was hard to evaluate her last year because of the obvious agenda of her coach to showcase others. But like Mulkey, when Dungee was out of the game her team struggled and leads melted away.

Courtney made the smoothest transition from high school to college that I have seen. Actually, it seems to me that she was a better player in her freshman and sophomore year than when a senior.

 

[sybarite]

And to Syb and NorthCarolinaSooner: Myself followed the USA trials and the u16 teams are absolutely bogus! 5 of the Best players did not make the team! It was pure politics. Most of the girls selected were from the Westcoast and the coaches were from the Westcoast. They were average players to me. The best player at the trials Rellah Boothe did not make the team, Didi Richards did not make the team, neither did Charli Collier,or Christlyn Williams. The team was not picked right at all which is why they received the Bronze medal.

U16 is pure politics, they know who they want from the start. They could care less who is the best and the #1 player in the nation Megan Walker did not even attend! Neither did Chassity Patterson.

So to say to that Dungee or Nancy is the better player because they have gold medals with u16 means nothing in my mind. Not taking anything from them. You cannot teach 6'9, I think Nancy will be a major Defensive presence for the Sooners but it is going to take some time. I think coach Pam works with the post and does an amazing job with them.

Get off the basketball world "Hype" and start focusing on girls who can actually play! Many top recruits do not attend these USA trials. That does not make them any less of a player than the ones who do attend.

Perfect Example: Aaliyah Wilson and Ty Harris. Wilson is by far the best player in the state of Oklahoma and Harris is by far the best player in the state of Indiana. Neither have USA backgrounds.. Does that make them any better than the ones who have?

I think this is absolute nonsense. It is what those who are not selected for tryouts want to believe. Yet, curiously, the others selected like Lauren Cox, Joyner Holmes, Asia Durr, a couple who went to UConn, etc., are regarded as the top of the class. It's only when a couple who went to OU are included that you say it is political.

It invites about fifty, and they go through tryouts. DRob's highschool coach was the one who selected and coached the team that Dungee and Mulkey both made. So, the selection and tryouts are bogus?

 

[MsProudSooner]

I don't frequent the boards of other teams, so pardon me if I don't know the answer to this question: Do the fans from all schools eat their young or is it just Sooner fans?

 

[GoWarriors]

I think this is absolute nonsense. It is what those who are not selected for tryouts want to believe. Yet, curiously, the others selected like Lauren Cox, Joyner Holmes, Asia Durr, a couple who went to UConn, etc., are regarded as the top of the class. It's only when a couple who went to OU are included that you say it is political.

It invites about fifty, and they go through tryouts. DRob's highschool coach was the one who selected and coached the team that Dungee and Mulkey both made. So, the selection and tryouts are bogus?

The USA teams are very political and it cost them a gold for the 16U. They had no inside presence because they left off 2 inside players who had a great camp. Instead they put guards on the team with famous sister names ect. They need to also have big time coaches on the 16U team.

 

[sybarite]

Ah. So, that's the reason that nearly all of the players on the U-16 rosters end up at UConn, ND, Louisville, Duke, etc. Of course, if they end up at OU, it was political.

Have you considered the possibility that some of our problems come from the fact that they are playing teams that stay together for several months with a bunch of kids who are good playground players? I watched a team with Joyner Holmes, Lauren Cox, and Asia Durr---superstars supposedly, barely edge a team from Spain because they had Salvadores who was quicker than Durr, and they played together as a team. Other teams can have good players.

I don't buy this crap that the naysayers always have that they know five girls who would have made it had it not been for politics. Are you sure of your evaluations?

 

[GoWarriors]

The funny thing is i have Nancy number 5 on my board so I'm not here to troll her.

As far as the USA .....it's not about who's the best. It's who do they want to keep and what they want. Boothe was the best kid in the gym, Richards was the second best there. Lexi Gordon and Chrstyn Williams should have been on the team along with Charlie Collier. Yes i was there along with other services that had my same list of who should have made it.

You are right. I heard the same thing too from college coaches that were at the camp. Again, that's why they lost.

 

[sybarite]

I don't frequent the boards of other teams, so pardon me if I don't know the answer to this question: Do the fans from all schools eat their young or is it just Sooner fans?

I think that from watching the boards at Duke, Maryland, UConn, and Tennessee that most of the trolls that frequent this board would be banned. When Maryland and Duke started their boards, it was by invitation only. I have long since forgotten my passwords for those boards, and I don't even have the website information any more. But, they were much cleaner boards that really didn't tolerate a lot of the nonsense. The Summit may not ban you. But, the attack upon intruders that offend Tennessee players would make you wish you were banned.

 

[GoWarriors]

Ah. So, that's the reason that nearly all of the players on the U-16 rosters end up at UConn, ND, Louisville, Duke, etc. Of course, if they end up at OU, it was political.

Have you considered the possibility that some of our problems come from the fact that they are playing teams that stay together for several months with a bunch of kids who are good playground players? I watched a team with Joyner Holmes, Lauren Cox, and Asia Durr---superstars supposedly, barely edge a team from Spain because they had Salvadores who was quicker than Durr, and they played together as a team. Other teams can have good players.

I don't buy this crap that the naysayers always have that they know five girls who would have made it had it not been for politics. Are you sure of your evaluations?

You have a point about playing together like the Canada team but not in the 16U team division. They flat out didn't have the right players to compete inside. It was obvious if you watched the games.

 

[GoWarriors]

I think that from watching the boards at Duke, Maryland, UConn, and Tennessee that most of the trolls that frequent this board would be banned. When Maryland and Duke started their boards, it was by invitation only. I have long since forgotten my passwords for those boards, and I don't even have the website information any more. But, they were much cleaner boards that really didn't tolerate a lot of the nonsense. The Summit may not ban you. But, the attack upon intruders that offend Tennessee players would make you wish you were banned.

lol

 

[sybarite]

All of these players who "should have made the team" seem to be from Texas. Any bias there?

 

[SOONERGRAD]

All of these players who "should have made the team" seem to be from Texas. Any bias there?

None at all. Just happens Texas is the gold mine for 2017's this year. It was obvious the u16 was bias. The team was not picked right at all. U16 is completely seperate from the other USA teams. College coaches nor scouts have no say so. They are HS coaches who pick the team themselves based on the tryouts. Rellah boothe was hands down best player at the trials and was not selected. If a college coach were to actually hand pick the team themselves the outcomes would be a whole lot different. The u17with Cox, Durr, Holmes was probably the best they selected over this 2 year span. Not says my great but it was a better job than this year and past years. Nancy barley even played.

What I'm saying is USA u16 is very political. They know who they want from the start. Which answers why some of the nations to recruits don't even attend. The best player their doesn't even make it. That should tell you something..

 

[SOONERGRAD]

The USA teams are very political and it cost them a gold for the 16U. They had no inside presence because they left off 2 inside players who had a great camp. Instead they put guards on the team with famous sister names ect. They need to also have big time coaches on the 16U team.

+1 I'm glad someone understands where I'm coming from. Just because a players doesn't get invited, doesn't attend, or does not make it, does not make them any less of a player then the ones who are on the team. Brazil and Canada absolutely embarrassed USA. Especially on the inside. Boothe and Collier would of made a major difference. Even Williams. The team was not picked right at all!

 

[skilledserv]

All of these players who "should have made the team" seem to be from Texas. Any bias there?

To much to really type to you but if you would like to talk please leave me your number in my inbox if not i do understand.

I will explain that lost that Cy fair had in the last 3 minutes of the game and whatever else you feel you want to ask.

Also understand i didn't pick all Texas kids who should've made it. Boothe is from Florida, Williams is from Arkansas.......but also understand Richards and Collier are top 10 and Gordon is really underrated

 

[sybarite]

OK. That U-16 team with Cox, Holmes, and Durr also included Mulkey and Dungee. Exactly what political pull did Mulkey and Dungee have that caused them to be selected? Curiously, that same U-16 team won the western hemisphere U-16 with Durr, Cox, and Samuelson making the All-Tournament team along with Penzo. I've seen nothing celebrating how good Penzo was because she made the All-Tournment team. I did, on the other hand, see one claim that Penzo's making the All-Tournament team was political because they wanted someone not from the US (like the post from Canada who also made it). There always seems to be an excuse as to why the player who comes to OU is not that good.

Who, exactly, is it that says that the 2017 Texas players are all that good? It seems that there are suddenly a lot of Texas players on these national recruiting evaluation lists. Curiously, there aren't that many that become stars.

 

[sybarite]

To much to really type to you but if you would like to talk please leave me your number in my inbox if not i do understand.

I will explain that lost that Cy fair had in the last 3 minutes of the game and whatever else you feel you want to ask.

Also understand i didn't pick all Texas kids who should've made it. Boothe is from Florida, Williams is from Arkansas.......but also understand Richards and Collier are top 10 and Gordon is really underrated

I think I have made it clear that I don't believe you. When you make statements like "she hangs out at the three point line," or how she caused her team to lose 25 points in three minutes, or how she really isn't interested in basketball, or how fans in the stands don't like her, it isn't the type of statement, as North Carolina puts it, is professional. It reads like someone who has an agenda. A professional would not be making those types of statements.

 

[SOONERGRAD]

OK. That U-16 team with Cox, Holmes, and Durr also included Mulkey and Dungee. Exactly what political pull did Mulkey and Dungee have that caused them to be selected? Curiously, that same U-16 team won the western hemisphere U-16 with Durr, Cox, and Samuelson making the All-Tournament team along with Penzo. I've seen nothing celebrating how good Penzo was because she made the All-Tournment team. I did, on the other hand, see one claim that Penzo's making the All-Tournament team was political because they wanted someone not from the US (like the post from Canada who also made it). There always seems to be an excuse as to why the player who comes to OU is not that good.

Who, exactly, is it that says that the 2017 Texas players are all that good? It seems that there are suddenly a lot of Texas players on these national recruiting evaluation lists. Curiously, there aren't that many that become stars.

Dungee was not on the u17 that defeated Spain. Do your research, No one is saying the ones that come to OU aren't that good. Nancy was actually an alternate if you want to be technical.Te'a Cooper had an illness and could not attend. Dungee was cut 2nd round. I am Just stating facts, if your so narrow-minded to See that U16 is very political and seperate from the other USA teams then their is a big problem.

What do you have against the Texas players or other players ? It is ok to like someone other than OU and their commits Syb. If you do not like the facts some may speak than maybe you do not need to be on the OU Board. Maybe start your own OU blog.

We are not bashing the OU players and commits. Just simply stating facts and opinions. You disagree to everything being said, therefore, this conversation is not getting anywhere.

 

[sybarite]

Dungee was not on the u17 that defeated Spain. Do your research, Lol no one is saying The ones that come to OU aren't that good. Nancy was actually an alternate if you want to be technical.Te'a Cooper had an illness and could not attend. Dungee was cut 2nd round. I am Just stating facts, if your so narrow-minded to See that U16 is very political and seperate from the other USA teams then their is a big problem.

What do you have against the Texas players or other players ? It is ok to like someone other than OU and their commits Syb. If you do not like the facts some may speak than maybe you do not need to be on the OU Board. Maybe start your own OU blog.

We are not bashing the OU players and commits. Just simply stating facts and opinions.

Did I say that Dungee was on the U-17 team? Show me.

Who says that it is political? Do you have verification of this? Or, perhaps, is this just another thing that you need to support your position?

Your remarks about a blog don't merit a response. You are not stating facts, nor do the facts support your position. You, as well as a handful of others, have continually been rather demeaning of OU players and coaches. Perhaps you need to go to a board that supports your favorite team, whatever that might be. This thread was initiated, hopefully, to celebrate the fact that we had two new players who had committed to OU. We had 11 posts before a troll made this post:

That is who she is....she sits at the 3 point line throwing up a ton of jump shots. I got a chance to watch her first school game this year and it was amazing how many people were complaining in the stands.

Have you seen Mulkey play? Is there any truth in this attack at all? Does she sit out at the three point line throwing up a ton of jump shots?

What kind of a professional scout comes on a celebration thread to tell us how many fans were complaining in the stands about Mulkey?

That ridiculous and unprofessional post was followed by:

She does not love the game and without loving the game......you will never see the results you expect.

I do know for a fact that Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M did not offer her, but those schools got to see more of her than any of you guys.

Just know this, i hope that she has a great career but if i were a betting man i would not place my money on it. We will revisit this subject in another year or 2.

I guess all the scouting services are wrong about Mulkey and dungee

She does not love the game? This is something that a scout would say? "You will never see the results you expect." This is a condemnation. But, he knows exactly what schools were not interested (which has been contradicted).

Finally, we see that the scouting services were wrong about Mulkey and Dungee. Isn't that rather selective? This is an OU board celebrating two players, and he happens to say that the services are wrong about those two players. Isn't that rather specific?

Meanwhile, aren't they both in the top twenty or sixty? They aren't chopped liver according to the scouts.

This is nonsense, and I am ashamed of all of you who have helped this troll's agenda. It is a very specifically targeted agenda that names only two prospects, the two who happen to be OU signees. And, he did it in a celebration thread. And, you supported it.

 

[tycat947]

I think that from watching the boards at Duke, Maryland, UConn, and Tennessee that most of the trolls that frequent this board would be banned. When Maryland and Duke started their boards, it was by invitation only. I have long since forgotten my passwords for those boards, and I don't even have the website information any more. But, they were much cleaner boards that really didn't tolerate a lot of the nonsense. The Summit may not ban you. But, the attack upon intruders that offend Tennessee players would make you wish you were banned.

You think the trolls were uninvited???