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I dont follow osewe but thought that Ford has done very well in recruiting. But it seems the players dont stay
They won't be able to afford to dump him for a couple of years. And since they are now a 'football power', they don't care anymore!!!
IMO Travis Ford is the worst coach in the Big 12. I'm not just saying that because he's OSU's coach. I'm saying that because this is how I really would rank the Big 12 coaches right now.
1. Self -
2. Barnes -
3A - Kruger - good guy, experienced
3B - Martin - crazy bastard, but gets results
3C - Gillispie - personal problems aside has been a winner
3D - Haith - solid but yet to be seen in Big 12
3E - Kennedy - solid but yet to be seen in Big 12
8. Hoiberg - has done the best he can so far with his rosters
9. Drew - big time recruiter/cheater, can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag
10 Ford - recruiting is suspect, coaching is suspect
IMO Travis Ford is the worst coach in the Big 12. I'm not just saying that because he's OSU's coach. I'm saying that because this is how I really would rank the Big 12 coaches right now.
1. Self -
2. Barnes -
3A - Kruger - good guy, experienced
3B - Martin - crazy bastard, but gets results
3C - Gillispie - personal problems aside has been a winner
3D - Haith - solid but yet to be seen in Big 12
3E - Kennedy - solid but yet to be seen in Big 12
8. Hoiberg - has done the best he can so far with his rosters
9. Drew - big time recruiter/cheater, can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag
10 Ford - recruiting is suspect, coaching is suspect
They won't be able to afford to dump him for a couple of years. And since they are now a 'football power', they don't care anymore!!!
You are kidding about OSU being a football power, right? One big 12 title doesn't make you a powerhouse. Their talent and results has improved each year under Gundy but let's wait and see what they do over the next 5 to 10 years before we go and annoint them a "football power."
I am pretty sure he is kidding. I am also quite confident that OSU is going to be much worse next season. They lose a lot on the line, their quarterback and likely two of their top 3 receivers. OSU will need the defense to carry them in several games next season and I don't think that will happen. I look for OSU to lose 3-5 conference games next season. Losses are OU and KSU with potential losses to Tech, Texas, ISU, Baylor, TCU and West Virginia. I certainly don't think OSU will lose all of those potential losses but I also don't think they will win all of those games.
I agree, Denver. OSU football fans had better enjoy their success this season, because they may be in for a rude awakening next year and beyond. Don't get me wrong, the Pokes should be playing for the national championship this year. They were that good. But this was a talented team filled with stars at several positions who will not be there next season. If Blackmon goes pro, as projected, he and Weeden alone will be huge losses. One only has to ask if Brandon and Justin had not been on the team, how good would OSU have been this year?
OSU's defense played lights out in Bedlam. But that was an anomaly rarely seen in other games. With key losses in a number of positions, I don't see any chance of a repeat for the Pokes next season. I don't know about 3-5 conference losses? But I can see 2-3 in conference, with the possibility of 3-5 overall.
Sorry to be part of getting this thread off topic, folks. I'll put on my basketball hat again after I submit this post. lol
Not wanting to change this to a football discussion but when talking about OSU defense and looking a conference games only (best statistics for comparing B12 schools) OSU lead the league in scoring defense. OU's scoring defense was #4 in the conference.
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