Time to redraw the Big 12

[Cheno]

I am not saying the conference tourney is the most important thing. I am making a comment referring to the article and pointing out the fact the conference tourney results prove the point KU has a huge advantage playing in the North most years. Anyone that tries to dispute that fact is a homer.

I guess if you are talking about the history of the Big 12 I would agree with that. Certainly not the last two years though and if you disagree with that you are a homer. The North teams have been getting better and the South is getting weaker the last couple years.
I thought we were talking recent years not back in the day.

 

[buttermaker1]

North is getting better, in 08 KU the 2 seed beat UT the 1 seed and MU the 3 seed beat Baylor the 9 seed.

The demise of OU and OSU the last few years hasn't helped the South. When Eddie and Kelvin were coaching, most years the South had 3 legit top 25 teams OU, OSU and UT. The North was always KU, KU and more KU. Tech could sometimes surpise you with Knight's coaching ability. OSU, Baylor and A$M appear to be headed in the right direction UT will always have mad talent and be a player. The south is again deeper this year. The North has KU and KSU, the south has UT, OSU, Baylor and A$M. MU as usually is a mystery they laid down at home yesterday to the KU team whipped by a middle of the road South team OSU.

The North is not better than the South this year The South will get more NCAA bids unless NU, CU or ISU win the tourney. The other 2 good teams in the North layed eggs against KU this year. You would assume KU would have more losses to North teams every year since they play each North team twice. This is true some years but not every year which again is a clear indication KU has a huge advantage playing in the North.

UT
OSU
Baylor
A$M

KU
KSU
MU (bubble team they might need a win still)

 

[Cheno]

This is true some years but not every year which again is a clear indication KU has a huge advantage playing in the North.

If you think KU has had a huge advantage playing in the North the last two years you are wrong.
KU had to play A&M, Texas & OSU all on the road this year. Return games in Allen this year all would have been wins for KU.

 

[buttermaker1]

If you think KU has had a huge advantage playing in the North the last two years you are wrong.
KU had to play A&M, Texas & OSU all on the road this year. Return games in Allen this year all would have been wins for KU.

Some years its greater than others KU lost 1 of those 3 games you reference above.

 

[Cheno]

Some years its greater than others KU lost 1 of those 3 games you reference above.

Right, all on the road. Disadvantage KU.
Again, the last 2 years the North and South have been very comparable.
Don't see what you are crying about.

 

[bocabull]

Has a big xii south team even won at Allen yet? Last time I checked it hadn't happened.

So to think some silly redrawing of the conference would change the outcome is not based on any evidence.

 

[HoHum]

Has a big xii south team even won at Allen yet? Last time I checked it hadn't happened.

So to think some silly redrawing of the conference would change the outcome is not based on any evidence.

A&M beat them with Law.

 

[OUsky]

So KU played 3 south teams on the road and lost one... but played 5 north teams on the road and won all five. In a down year for the south and Kansas still has no advantage... only KU fans.

 

[Cheno]

So KU played 3 south teams on the road and lost one... but played 5 north teams on the road and won all five. In a down year for the south and Kansas still has no advantage... only KU fans.

You honestly think the South was better than the North enough to give KU an advantage? Only South fans with their excuses again.
My point was where is KU's advantage when they had to play 3 out of the 4 best South teams on the road.
So by your logic I could say Nebraska goes 0-10 vs the North and 2-4 vs the South so then the North is much better...right? Doesn't work that way.

It's hilarious that some people think KU actually had a scheduling advantage this year. That's called sour grapes. For all intents and purposes, KU had the Big 12 wrapped up 8 games in and it has nothing to do with scheduling. They were that much better than everyone else.

 

[buttermaker1]

KU has a scheduling advantage against the south teams most years and again this year.

The South has 4 legit NCAA teams the North has 2 maybe 3 if you count MU. Not sure what you don't understand its pretty simple math.

I really can't explain it any clearer than with the big 12 tourney stat.'s and NCAA births. What's really funny is a KS writer said we need to redrawl and you want to argue with Kansas writers.

No one is whinning we just don't value what KU does in the regular season nearly as much they don't ever have to slug it out in the South. No reason to argue with us only KU fans agree with your point.

 

[Cheno]

KU has a scheduling advantage against the south teams most years and again this year.
The South has 4 legit NCAA teams the North has 2 maybe 3 if you count MU. Not sure what you don't understand its pretty simple math.

:ez-laugh: Okay...you act like people are agreeing with you. I'd like to hear someone other than you tell us all how KU had a scheduling advantage this year. Nobody else is saying that. I'm curious how you say maybe Mizzou is in but Texas and OSU are in for sure despite Missouri finishing higher than both of them in the Big 12 and beating both of them by 15 points. Blowouts.
So you saying they are better than Mizzou is kind of silly.

No one is whinning wejust don't value what KU does in the regular season nearly as much they don't ever have to slug it out in the South.

Who's "we"? :ez-laugh:
Yeah and if KU was in the South this year at worst they are 14-2. Still win the conference by 2-3 games.

 

[buttermaker1]

Good lord Cheno you are kidding right still arguing your point about the north?