TMG must be thinking oops!

[HeismanWatch]

Heisman is right. TMG essentially took an oath to the University of Oklahoma, the coaching staff, his team and himself. He obligations that he did not live up that oath and additionally, probably knew this prior to signing with OU.

The problem with the some of the posters on this board seems to be that the student athletes are looked upon as children. A second problem appears to be that some believe that one's misfortune's are the result of someone else's actions. The person responsible for one's misfortunes are generally found by looking in the mirror.

There are no children that attend OU legally and there should be no children from a maturity standpoint. Each one is responsible for his own decisions.

TMG made several bad decisions this past year and now others are going to discuss it on a message board. Heismanwatch did nothing wrong by simply pointing this out.

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[HeismanWatch]

yeah because dumping on an 18 yr old kid is soooooooo classy.

I have no problem with people using the ignore prompt.

wayepayne would never do it as he is a fan of my threads and posts.

I actually use it on other sites and it works just fine for me.

 

[HeismanWatch]

^Nice! :ez-roll:

 

[HeismanWatch]

The fates of Warren and Gallon demonstrated why the so-called one-and-done rule is beyond bad. The NBA couldn't care less about college teams, even if its draft rule has the potential to do serious harm.

If the NBA didn't require players to attend college for one year, Warren, Gallon and freshman guard Tommy Mason-Griffin probably wouldn't have signed with OU. All three contributed in various ways last season to a messy situation that could linger long after their departures.

Mason-Griffin was a reluctant student. So the minute he met the NBA's requirement, the point guard bolted and ended up going undrafted.

"To be quite honest," OU coach Jeff Capel told Sooner fans last month during a booster meeting in Tulsa, "there are a lot of kids that don't want to go to college. They want a chance to try to go to the NBA."

Warren and Gallon might not have been selected had they entered the draft straight out of high school. But at least they wouldn't have wasted all the money and time OU invested in them, and then burned a school they never wanted to attend.

Gallon's situation is the most distressing. OU and the NCAA continue their investigations into allegations that Gallon and former OU assistant Oronde Taliaferro may be tied to a serious rules violation.

The frustrating part for Capel is that the school and the NCAA reportedly are making very little progress into a report Gallon had $3,000 wired to his bank account by an investor connected to Taliaferro.

If Taliaferro and stock broker Jeffrey Hausinger continue to refuse cooperating with OU and the NCAA, the investigation potentially could go on for years, much like the five-year probe just completed at USC.

The slow-moving investigation has already had a negative effect. Capel wasn't able to attract big-time, experienced assistants for two openings on his staff because potential candidates didn't want to join a team in NCAA limbo.

"There's all kinds of things that make this (investigation) look bad, but there's really no evidence," an OU source said. "The hard part is trying to find evidence whether (Taliaferro) did anything or not. It's bizarre."

Would OU be in this pickle if the NBA didn't have the one-and-done rule? Probably not, because Gallon thought he was NBA-ready after high school.

Capel declined to discuss the investigation's status when he was in Tulsa. But he told Sooner supporters he's hopeful the NBA and the players' union will agree to change the rule when the two sides reach a new collective bargaining agreement in 2012.

"The one-year rule is one of the worst rules (the NBA) put in. It makes a mockery of the educational system," Capel said. "One of the biggest mistakes people can make is to think the NBA cares about college basketball."

Capel noted the NBA promotes players who made the jump from high school before the one-year rule was implemented. That includes superstars Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwight Howard and Kevin Garnett.

College coaches want the NBA to follow Major League Baseball. If a player doesn't turn pro directly out of high school, he must play college baseball for three seasons.

"You could see a change in that (NBA) rule to where you can go straight to the NBA from high school," Capel said. "But if you go to college, it would be mandatory for two years."

OU's problems aren't totally a result of the NBA rule. But it contributed to an ugly situation that could still be a mess by next year's draft.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=2&articleid=20100626_202_B1_LOCALL39069

Was Sittler a wrong for stating the obvious?

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Was Sittler a wrong for stating the obvious?

On what, that Gallon and Warren never "wanted" to attend OU? Do you realize how retarded that statement sounds since THEY BOTH ATTENDED OU? Seriously, I have some cool books that my 3 year old reads, in some of them "toys" are real people. Is that cool or what?

 

[SoonerDan74012]

On what, that Gallon and Warren never "wanted" to attend OU? Do you realize how retarded that statement sounds since THEY BOTH ATTENDED OU? Seriously, I have some cool books that my 3 year old reads, in some of them "toys" are real people. Is that cool or what?

I wouldn't pay attention to any article that Dave Stitler writes, he is a blowhard and always has something negative to say about OU and this piece adds to the list. This was the dumbest part of the article, if Willie didn't want to be OU then why did he decide to come back for his Sophomore year when he could have went after his freshman year and last time I checked he came here because he wanted to play with Blake and he liked Capel coming out of high school. If Tiny didn't want to be here then why did he hang around after the season was over and was seen at the women's tournament games. The NCAA investigation is what made him leave, not because he didn't want to be here.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

I wouldn't pay attention to any article that Dave Stitler writes, he is a blowhard and always has something negative to say about OU and this piece adds to the list. This was the dumbest part of the article, if Willie didn't want to be OU then why did he decide to come back for his Sophomore year when he could have went after his freshman year and last time I checked he came here because he wanted to play with Blake and he liked Capel coming out of high school. If Tiny didn't want to be here then why did he hang around after the season was over and was seen at the women's tournament games. The NCAA investigation is what made him leave, not because he didn't want to be here.

I swear, I get insulted for inability to read, comprehend or whatever...but that the completely obvious is missed by the media and people on here is bizarre to me.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

He is a young man who didn't want to be a student and wanted to play in the NBA. You don't know what he was thinking, which is a theme I see in a lot of your posts. You think you know so much, but the thing you don't know, is how little you actually know.

Join the crowd. When he signed TMG, Coach Capel believed that TMG would be a 4 year college player. Give the fans a break. The head coach was fooled also.

:capelspin

 

[jerry]

I should have went to class.

TMG can't think??

 

[Seymore Cox]

Heisman is right. TMG essentially took an oath to the University of Oklahoma, the coaching staff, his team and himself. He obligations that he did not live up that oath and additionally, probably knew this prior to signing with OU.

The problem with the some of the posters on this board seems to be that the student athletes are looked upon as children. A second problem appears to be that some believe that one's misfortune's are the result of someone else's actions. The person responsible for one's misfortunes are generally found by looking in the mirror.

There are no children that attend OU legally and there should be no children from a maturity standpoint. Each one is responsible for his own decisions.

TMG made several bad decisions this past year and now others are going to discuss it on a message board. Heismanwatch did nothing wrong by simply pointing this out.

Very good post. However, as unpopular as this may be, TMG made the right decision. He's not a student. He can't succeed in college. I mean, when a university offers you the best tutors around and you still struggle, then it means that this isn't the right situation for you. He probably could have been like other players and had someone do his homework and walk him through all his tests, but atleast he was true to himself.