Tom Izzo vs. Doug Gottlieb

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MSU's Tom Izzo: ESPN's Doug Gottlieb not an informed analyst
Matt Charboneau / The Detroit News

During ESPN's coverage of the NCAA Tournament on Sunday night, analyst Doug Gottlieb said Michigan State is simply "Kalin Lucas and a bunch of other dudes."

Not the most flattering commentary for a team that played in the last two Final Fours.

When Tom Izzo was asked Monday if it was fair, he didn't hold back against Gottlieb.

"I don't want to rip him," Izzo said, "but it is amazing when you've been a player you should have a better understanding of what goes on, especially being a player that has gone through some traumatic things yourself."

Izzo was referencing the rocky career of Gottlieb, who played one season at Notre Dame before being dismissed for stealing a roommate's credit card. He was eventually convicted of misdemeanor fraud and transferred to Oklahoma State.

"I respect most analysts, but I think the ones I respect the most are the ones who understand that you have to dig in and really understand the situation," Izzo said. "If I don't get phone calls from someone, they don't know what the hell is going on.

"I would consider them an average analyst, average talk show host, average reporter, average anybody. If they know what's going on in your program and they take the time to find out — and then they want to rip it or applaud it, I've got no problem with it."

MSU forward Draymond Green was asked what he thought of Gottlieb's analysis.

"I've played in more Final Fours than him, so that doesn't bother me," Green said.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110315...ottlieb-not-an-informed-analyst#ixzz1GjlMv9nX
 
MSU's Tom Izzo: ESPN's Doug Gottlieb not an informed analyst
Matt Charboneau / The Detroit News
During ESPN's coverage of the NCAA Tournament on Sunday night, analyst Doug Gottlieb said Michigan State is simply "Kalin Lucas and a bunch of other dudes."
Not the most flattering commentary for a team that played in the last two Final Fours.
When Tom Izzo was asked Monday if it was fair, he didn't hold back against Gottlieb.
"I don't want to rip him," Izzo said, "but it is amazing when you've been a player you should have a better understanding of what goes on, especially being a player that has gone through some traumatic things yourself."
Izzo was referencing the rocky career of Gottlieb, who played one season at Notre Dame before being dismissed for stealing a roommate's credit card. He was eventually convicted of misdemeanor fraud and transferred to OSU.

MSU forward Draymond Green was asked what he thought of Gottlieb's analysis.
"I've played in more Final Fours than him, so that doesn't bother me," Green said.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110315...ottlieb-not-an-informed-analyst#ixzz1GjlMv9nX


Lmao
 
I think that is a little harsh. Doug G is a good analyst and I think that ultimately he hit a nerve. What is the old expression-truth hurts.
 
i thought Izzo was talking about Doug's FT shooting?

honestly, i think Doug is OK. he's an unqualified moron when he talks about anything other than college basketball....but he knows more about that than me. give him that.
 
I think that is a little harsh. Doug G is a good analyst and I think that ultimately he hit a nerve. What is the old expression-truth hurts.

I don't. I am sick of today's journalism too. If all you do is watch games on TV and don't do any actual investigating, then you are "average."
 
Doug was not a good player. Maybe the worst shooter in history.
 
I still remember going to the Bedlam game and hearing the crowd yell "Shooooot itttt!" Every time Doug Gottlieb touched the ball.
 
Not sure why Izzo brought up the credit card thing.
 
Izzo is a great coach, sounds like he is a bit touchy regarding his team's underachieving record this year.
 
Say what you will; I don't know if he knows much but Doug has said some very nice things about the OU job this week.
 
I still remember going to the Bedlam game and hearing the crowd yell "Shooooot itttt!" Every time Doug Gottlieb touched the ball.

I was one of those idiots. It was awesome, when he finally bricked a long jumper.
 
Doug can get under your skin pretty easy because he just expresses his opinions...he doesnt hold back...

Remember a few years ago when he had some harsh things to say about OSU?

I think it is refreshing...

He made a comment on the Bracketology i liked too, when all the guys like Bilas and Vitale were lobbying for basketball guys on the committe he brought up a great point about the good ole boy network and guys trying to take care of their friends...notice no one responded to that comment even though it was spot on...

I like that Izzo defended his team, but he took it a little personal for me...has he not looked at his teams performance over the year? I think Doug has a point...
 
Doug was not a good player. Maybe the worst shooter in history.
I disagree. He was a tremendous point guard. One of the all-time leaders in assists at the D-1 level.
 
Think how good our 2000 team could've been with a true point guard like Gottlieb.

Sheesh!
 
Take it for what it is worth....but I have good friends who played hoops with him all the time at Okie State. They said he was a great shooter in pick up games, practices, etc, and then the light went off (shooting wise) when he got to games. They never understood why and one of them even asked him and he had no answer but just shrugged his shoulders.
 
Take it for what it is worth....but I have good friends who played hoops with him all the time at Okie State. They said he was a great shooter in pick up games, practices, etc, and then the light went off (shooting wise) when he got to games. They never understood why and one of them even asked him and he had no answer but just shrugged his shoulders.

Yea, he would airball free throws in our practices and i was like...are you kidding me? but the guy could ball, some of the best vision i have ever seen...
 
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