Transfer Portal 2025

[Goldberg719]

On Tre

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Which Tre? Donaldson or White?

 

[TopherB560]

 

[TINY]

Which Tre? Donaldson or White?

Both

 

[austing7]

 

[StoopsBros]

Which Tre? Donaldson or White?

My bad.

White.

 

[StoopsBros]

In case anyone was still holding out hope on Silas

 

[jdizzle34]

Man, Trilly isn't high on OU for anyone.

 

[BossFan64]

Man, Trilly isn't high on OU for anyone.

Who he talks with probably has a lot to do with it. Nothing sinister, but they are going to lean toward their sources’ info.

 

[CoachTalk]

Man, Trilly isn't high on OU for anyone.

Poor dizzy

 

[StoopsBros]

****, I missed this earlier.

 

[TEvans4Three]

****, I missed this earlier.

This is Kobe Elvis all over again.

Things Collins does well:

-Defense
-Assists

Things Collins does not do well:
-Shoot the ball
-Score efficiently

Listen, Frankie has been the same player for the last 3 years, nothing more nothing less. The staff know what they are getting. Close to a 2:1 AST:TO ratio player who can play some defense.

Here is how his seasons would look against our guards this past year:


*(sidenote: realGM and sports-reference use different calculations for their ORtg and DRtg)

 

[TEvans4Three]

Love, want.

Hmmm, I wonder why they are pushing for Tre White...



copy+paste

-6'7" 225
-6'7" 205

 

[Boom Soon]

This is Kobe Elvis all over again.

Things Collins does well:

-Defense
-Assists

Things Collins does not do well:
-Shoot the ball
-Score efficiently

Listen, Frankie has been the same player for the last 3 years, nothing more nothing less. The staff know what they are getting. Close to a 2:1 AST:TO ratio player who can play some defense.

Here is how his seasons would look against our guards this past year:
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*(sidenote: realGM and sports-reference use different calculations for their ORtg and DRtg)

He needs to be coming off the bench.

 

[IndySooner]

This is Kobe Elvis all over again.

Things Collins does well:

-Defense
-Assists

Things Collins does not do well:
-Shoot the ball
-Score efficiently

Listen, Frankie has been the same player for the last 3 years, nothing more nothing less. The staff know what they are getting. Close to a 2:1 AST:TO ratio player who can play some defense.

Here is how his seasons would look against our guards this past year:
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*(sidenote: realGM and sports-reference use different calculations for their ORtg and DRtg)

So he’s an upgrade to Kobe. Upgrade at every position lost and we are cooking. (Obviously, upgrading Fears is a massive long shot, but upgrade everywhere else.)

 

[pnkranger]

I would have prioritized Javontae Campbell over Collins. He's just a better player. This is a bit of a Jordan Goldwire deal. Good passer, very good defender. If you can get him to only shoot shots he can make, he could make a leap, but chances are he's going to keep shooting it at a low %. Also, significantly more athletic than small guards from this year's team (Duke and Kobe). Solid ballhandler.

 

[TEvans4Three]

So he’s an upgrade to Kobe. Upgrade at every position lost and we are cooking. (Obviously, upgrading Fears is a massive long shot, but upgrade everywhere else.)

I mean, I wouldn't say upgrade by metrics standards at all. I would say same.

If you are going to downgrade at Fears, you need to, at least, significantly upgrade across the board.

 

[pnkranger]

I mean, I wouldn't say upgrade by metrics standards at all. I would say same.

If you are going to downgrade at Fears, you need to, at least, significantly upgrade across the board.

All the metrics say he's an upgrade over Kobe. Offensively, he's a downgrade, but he's a ++ defender where Kobe's a -- defender. Better rebounder, assister / passer, defender -- lower turnover rate based on higher usage rate. Shooting is rough at times, especially free throws and 3s, but he's a good finisher around the rim. Do what he's good at, and he can be a significant upgrade. Spray jumpshots and 3s and miss free throws, and he's going to be a push.

 

[TEvans4Three]

All the metrics say he's an upgrade over Kobe. Offensively, he's a downgrade, but he's a ++ defender where Kobe's a -- defender. Better rebounder, assister / passer, defender -- lower turnover rate based on higher usage rate. Shooting is rough at times, especially free throws and 3s, but he's a good finisher around the rim. Do what he's good at, and he can be a significant upgrade. Spray jumpshots and 3s and miss free throws, and he's going to be a push.

I know this is a semantics issue, not trying to be harping on it but all the metrics do not say he is an upgrade. You even said that in your post. He is not better offensively at all. He is defensively. Then you said it was a push, I agree.

Metrics also show the same thing. Push.

Also, want to point out...his 2024-25 numbers are in 9 games only, nonconference play.

Here is his game log:



So the good teams he played (Michigan, Xavier, Vanderbilt):



Shooting numbers are not great. (yes, only a 3 game sample)

 

[WichitaSooner]

So is Collins official??

 

[CoachTalk]

So is Collins official??

Not quite but trending.