A Generation of Quitters

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I found a link to this blog post on a women's bb board. It applies to young men as well as young women, though.

Generation of quitters
The news began trickling out this week, about all the athletes that are leaving Division I programs right now. It's clear that this will be another year like last year in which a staggering number of young people give up their scholarships.

It disturbs me deeply. I've been thinking for a few days how to write about it, and then this interview with Iowa State Athletic Director Jamie Pollard was posted. The Cyclones have lost all four of their women's basketball recruits from last year, despite reaching the Elite Eight and Sweet 16 in 2009 and 2010. Their male hoopers are leaving too. It's a problem that effects both the men's and women's sides in every conference.

Here are Pollard's very candid remarks:

My peers and I continually discuss the epidemic around the country in the sport of basketball. In the past two years over 500 men’s basketball players have transferred from a Division I team to another program. That number is absolutely amazing. Unfortunately if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf). Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

Education isn't necessarily to blame, as not all elementary schools use the same grading system. High schools use the A-B-C-D-F sytem, and no kid can escape NCAA GPA requirements getting out of high school.

Often times the "using parents as a cop-out" issue does apply, but there are just as many cases where a kid is left on her own and/or not supported much of the time and still quits. I've seen plenty of those cases in the schools where I've been employed.

I work with athletes. I also teach high school students daily - most of whom aren't athletes - and I have my own theory about all the transfers: this generation gives up too easily. They don't seem to have any concept of perseverance and what it takes to reach a goal, the amount of work involved in achievement, and the number of times they'll need to just suck it up to get there.

Examples.....I have had both athletes and students quit after a couple of laps. Kids will say they're going to hit the weight room and never get there. They'll start on something and won't finish it. They're worse than their parents - many of whom begin a workout program and then quit. These kids never really get started in the first place. They get tired after less than five minutes and then they give up.

A mixture of several factors contribute to these circumstances, in my opinion. For one, we live in an instant gratification culture where people expect things to happen fastfastfast. Young people have no patience today because of that, which is another part of the problem. If it doesn't happen right now, they say forget it.

Another factor is that kids don't believe in adults the way they used to when I was younger. Grownups used to be thought of as wise people, and sometimes kids were even afraid of them. A little fear is a good thing sometimes, but today's youth aren't afraid of anything or anyone. They also don't necessarily respect adults; older people have to "earn" their respect (in their eyes). They think they know more than coaches, and sometimes their parents do too.

Pollard is right on the money with the "reset" theory. Kids today think everything can be negotiated or changed if they don't like it. They didn't go to the old school that my father tended - the "tough sh*t" school. That's unfortunate, because it made me and my peers very resilient. This generation has no resilience, for the most part. It's scary.

A lot of times female basketball players leave a program because they're homesick. Well, tough beans. If it were my daughter and she tried to levy that excuse, I'd tell her it's only four years, and she can use this as a lesson in putting up with circumstances that don't agree with her, because it will be far from the last time that happens. I'd tell her to suck it up.

What will happen to this next generation, I'm not sure. But it makes me uneasy. Given the massive numbers that would rather stay overweight than begin regular exercise, and the hundreds that are now giving up college scholarships, it's a good thing I plan on working past my retirement age. These quitters are going to need us.

http://hoopism.blogspot.com/2010/04/generation-of-quitters.html
 
We saw way too much of that very attitude this year and I think we are going to see more of it in the next few years at various schools. Several of the pampered athletes are a bunch of babies who are not willing to sacrifice and work hard. Jeff alluded to recruiting the right kind of players in the future...I don't believe he will waste much time recruiting the pampered ones who are not willing to give 100% effort and put the team in front of their own self interest.
 
More evidence of the pussification of America.
 
Being coddled from "cradle -grave"not wanting to work hard & sacrifice to get somewhere in life..GoSooners!!!
 
We saw way too much of that very attitude this year and I think we are going to see more of it in the next few years at various schools. Several of the pampered athletes are a bunch of babies who are not willing to sacrifice and work hard. Jeff alluded to recruiting the right kind of players in the future...I don't believe he will waste much time recruiting the pampered ones who are not willing to give 100% effort and put the team in front of their own self interest.

Plus 1 2 and 3
 
I was a quitter...and i regret it to this day, but i learned a lot from it...

Kids just make dumb choices sometimes and when you are young you think you can just start over without thinking of the consequences...everything seems attainable and within reach...

This doesnt go for everybody of course, some people dont have to learn from their mistakes, they learn from others...
 
More evidence of the pussification of America.

Please. So since younger americans are now smart enough to weigh their options and seek the easiest path to success they are pussified?

To be tough you have to have minimal education and be a sucker who stays at the same company/school like a good little boy?

Americans are tougher, smarter and richer than ever. Unfortunately the ones left behind are the ones stuck in their old ways who did not adapt to a changing world. See for yourself by examining the participants at "tea partys". lol People so clueless they are holding tax protests in a year in which their taxes were cut. ha ha ha ha
 
Please. So since younger americans are now smart enough to weigh their options and seek the easiest path to success they are pussified?

To be tough you have to have minimal education and be a sucker who stays at the same company/school like a good little boy?

Americans are tougher, smarter and richer than ever. Unfortunately the ones left behind are the ones stuck in their old ways who did not adapt to a changing world. See for yourself by examining the participants at "tea partys". lol People so clueless they are holding tax protests in a year in which their taxes were cut. ha ha ha ha

Sometimes you have to stick out a ****ty situation instead of bolting at the first sign of trouble. I'm not going to say I had a rough childhood or anything, but the majority of today's youth are so spoiled, worshiped and coddled that at the first sign of any adversity they go crying to their parents to help them. Whether that be a teacher, coach or, hell, sometimes sadly even bosses.

I'm absolutely not talking about Tiny or anyone else specifically. This has nothing to do with being "smart enough" to weigh decisions. Every generation has that ability. But you almost said it yourself ... "the easiest path to success." It's very, very rare that success comes easy. And THAT is problem. Today's youth thinks it does.
 
I found a link to this blog post on a women's bb board. It applies to young men as well as young women, though.



http://hoopism.blogspot.com/2010/04/generation-of-quitters.html

I am a HS teacher and coach. I was in HS 11 years ago and I cant believe the difference between one decade. I see this everyday in the classroom and on the athletic field. Mommy and Daddy come to the rescue constantly and gratification must be instant or its someone elses false (usually teacher or coach).

Love the article.
 
Agree with the premise of the article, and I am a Generation Y member. I don't fault Generation Y too much, because it was Generation X and the Baby Boomers which raised us.

With that said, every generation believes they are better/smarter than the one they precede and the one prior. Also believe the term "quitter" in used too loosely in society. By some I might be viewed as a "quitter" at the time I stopped playing collegiately when it wasn't fun anymore and opportunity was not as plentiful.

Looking back, it was the best decision I ever made...Accounting degree from OU and a MBA from a Top 15 school next August, all because I "quit". It's real easy to label someone as a quitter in the moment, but the repercussions of someone's decision may take years to resonate.
 
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Please. So since younger americans are now smart enough to weigh their options and seek the easiest path to success they are pussified?

To be tough you have to have minimal education and be a sucker who stays at the same company/school like a good little boy?

Americans are tougher, smarter and richer than ever.
Unfortunately the ones left behind are the ones stuck in their old ways who did not adapt to a changing world. See for yourself by examining the participants at "tea partys". lol People so clueless they are holding tax protests in a year in which their taxes were cut. ha ha ha ha

More evidence that you can't be older than 18.
 
When the world economy fell off a cliff, even though the USA was responsible for more than our fair share due to lax financial regulation, where did money from around the world come running for safety? The safe haven of the US $.

A decade ago when the information age was upon us which companies led the world? Cisco Systems, Microsoft, AOL, Dell Computer, HP, Google etc.

I hold in my hand the best invention of my lifetime, the iPhone, where was it designed and marketed from? the USA.

What country is advanced enough to be the first in the world to openly elect a minority? The USA.

The USA is stronger, more secure, more intelligent than ever before. All this "the good old days" nonsense is a load of crap.

As for parents wanting to coddle their kids, that makes them good parents. You are not a better person or a stronger person because your dad was never around and left raising you to your teachers.
 
When the world economy fell off a cliff, even though the USA was responsible for more than our fair share due to lax financial regulation, where did money from around the world come running for safety? The safe haven of the US $.

A decade ago when the information age was upon us which companies led the world? Cisco Systems, Microsoft, AOL, Dell Computer, HP, Google etc.

I hold in my hand the best invention of my lifetime, the iPhone, where was it designed and marketed from? the USA.

What country is advanced enough to be the first in the world to openly elect a minority? The USA.

The USA is stronger, more secure, more intelligent than ever before. All this "the good old days" nonsense is a load of crap.

As for parents wanting to coddle their kids, that makes them good parents. You are not a better person or a stronger person because your dad was never around and left raising you to your teachers.

Do you have conversations with yourself? You are COMPLETELY missing the point.
 
When the world economy fell off a cliff, even though the USA was responsible for more than our fair share due to lax financial regulation, where did money from around the world come running for safety? The safe haven of the US $.

A decade ago when the information age was upon us which companies led the world? Cisco Systems, Microsoft, AOL, Dell Computer, HP, Google etc.

I hold in my hand the best invention of my lifetime, the iPhone, where was it designed and marketed from? the USA.

What country is advanced enough to be the first in the world to openly elect a minority? The USA.

The USA is stronger, more secure, more intelligent than ever before. All this "the good old days" nonsense is a load of crap.

As for parents wanting to coddle their kids, that makes them good parents. You are not a better person or a stronger person because your dad was never around and left raising you to your teachers.

Then again, you may well be 12.
 
As a member of the over 50 crowd there is no debate in my mind that the main thesis of this article is correct. My older kids are different than my younger kids - the older ones are more patient, persistent, and can delay gratification.

I work with young professional students on a daily basis. Is there a difference in their approach and work ethic? Without question.

There is no question this is a great country and still has a lot of great things going on with tremendous opportunities. However, the inability to delay gratification and to develop the mental toughness to hang through tough situations and turn them around is becoming a lost virtue. But we can't simply blame the kids - a lot of their parents are right in tow telling them they are getting screwed, should be playing more, and support their desires for instant gratification.
 
As for parents wanting to coddle their kids, that makes them good parents. You are not a better person or a stronger person because your dad was never around and left raising you to your teachers.

Well I will way in since I am in the education business and have seen the ways people raise their kids I will chime in.

I think the kids that struggle the most and are hit with a culture shock are those that are coddled and babied. After almost a decade of teaching and coaching, I know one thing I will not do with my son. That is coddle and protect them. I will not be that parent that comes to their rescue on everythign. I have seen too many of those kids and parents and I feel sorry for them.

I am not that old and just going off what I have seen. Boca, the kids you speak of are the ones that have the most trouble and think it just isn't fair.
 
Well I will way in since I am in the education business and have seen the ways people raise their kids I will chime in.

I think the kids that struggle the most and are hit with a culture shock are those that are coddled and babied. After almost a decade of teaching and coaching, I know one thing I will not do with my son. That is coddle and protect them. I will not be that parent that comes to their rescue on everythign. I have seen too many of those kids and parents and I feel sorry for them.

I am not that old and just going off what I have seen. Boca, the kids you speak of are the ones that have the most trouble and think it just isn't fair.

Right on Brother!!! As an educator and coach myself, you and I see the same thing on a daily basis. The kids that can do no wrong in the eyes of their parents are the usually ones I read in the papers getting arrested 3-4 years after they graduate. Im going to be having kids soon and I will be taking your approach of non-coddling
 
Steve Owens was a freshmen at OU when they weren't allowed to play until they were sophomores. He called home during his freshman year and wanted to quit and come home. His Dad told him that wouldn't be possible since he'd already given his room to one of his other siblings. Steve didn't quit. Steve had a wise father.
 
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