Agree or Disagree with Michael Rosenberg?

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A simple solution to NCAA corruption: Let stars get paid

Every Saturday in the fall, we pack college stadiums, raise the American flag, stand quietly as a marching band plays The Star-Spangled Banner, and cheer for a sport that prohibits capitalism.

College athletes cannot be paid. Every American knows this. The concept is as entrenched in our bloodstreams as cholesterol. We have accepted it for so long, and gone along with the NCAA's definition of right and wrong for so many years, that we don't even remember the reasons anymore.

They can't be paid because they can't be paid, because they just can't, because it's not allowed, because if it were allowed, then they could be paid. And they can't. Because it's not allowed. Got it?

So when Cam Newton allegedly earns $180,000 playing college football to help repair his father's church, he is a villain. When Terrelle Pryor and A.J. Green sell memorabilia, they get suspended, even though their schools openly sell memorabilia.

When Robert Traylor, the poor son of a crack-addicted mother and absentee father, takes money from a booster, he gets exiled. When Reggie Bush accepts thousands of dollars from somebody who sees his pro potential, he has to return his Heisman Trophy.

Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, who probably would have been the No. 1 pick in last April's NFL Draft, turned down millions to return for his senior season. Given his worth, shouldn't he be able to make money while in college?

Look, cheating is wrong. The point here is not to excuse the cheaters. I hate cheating. The point is to re-define cheating.

The 2010-2011 NCAA manual says the "Principle of Amateurism" is important because college athletics are an "avocation" and ... hang on, here comes the punchline: "student-athletes should be protected from exploitation by professional and commercial enterprise."

STAPLES: Big six should break off, form own conference

MANDEL: Want to cure corruption? Play with robots

Really? When an athlete sells his jersey so he can pay rent, and the NCAA suspends him, is the NCAA really protecting him? Who is the NCAA kidding?

If major college sports did not exist, nobody would try to create them -- not as we know them today. The entire enterprise is preposterous. If there were no college sports, 100 school presidents would never issue the following press release:

"We have decided to create sports teams to represent our universities. We will have to admit a lot of students with inferior academic records solely because they can play football or basketball, but hey, we're cool with that. Anyway, what matters here is that we can make billions of dollars doing this, and we're not going to let the players have anything beyond room, board, meals and a few other sundries. Not only that, but we will not allow ANYBODY to give them money. We have decided money is bad for them. It ... uh ... corrupts! Yes. It corrupts. Now: Who wants to buy a personal-seat license?"

We have a system where coaches are worth $5 million a year but star players are worth $40,000 -- a structure completely incongruous with the rest of the sports landscape.

It's time to start over. College sports have so many redeeming qualities -- the sense of community, the thrill of competition, and goshdarnit, I'll even throw "life lessons for young people" in there. Why are we so obsessed with restraining the income of players? Who is winning here? What are we protecting?

That NCAA manual devotes 16 pages to amateurism. We can cut it down to one, with one principle:

Athletes may not be paid directly with university funds.

That's it. One rule. There is your "amateurism." This way, universities can spend their booster donations, TV money and sponsorship dollars subsidizing facilities, staff, operating costs and athletic scholarships. College athletics will continue to thrive across dozens of sports.

But those who can cash in on their fame and success will be able to do it. If a wealthy South Carolina alum wants to give $50,000 a year to every Gamecock, he can do it.

Is this fair? No, not really. If we wanted to be completely fair, then football and basketball players would not be forced to subsidize non-revenue athletes. But this is a start. It's a way to keep what we love about college athletics without unduly penalizing athletes.

Some day, we will look back on this era of college sports the way we look back on Prohibition. We'll see that there were some good intentions behind it, along with some misguided fears. The problem with amateurism in college sports is the same problem the nation had with Prohibition: It is impossible to enforce.

The simple fact is that college athletes want to get paid (who wouldn't?) and there are literally thousands of people out there who would like to pay them. Why are we stopping this? What is the big deal? What do you think would happen if your starting quarterback was allowed to take $100,000 from somebody who enjoyed watching him play? Would the Earth crash into the sun?

I once had a remarkably circular conversation with former NCAA president Myles Brand about the NCAA's amateurism rules. One of his chief arguments was this:

"The fact is we don't pay students in other areas when they are engaged in activities as part of their education."

That may be (mostly) true. But colleges don't prevent their students from making additional money either. If a student at the University of Southern California School of Cinematic Arts is offered $2 million to direct a major-studio movie, that student would still be allowed to take his film classes. USC wouldn't say "Hey, that's no good. Give us your money so we can pay a professor seven figures."

This is not about whether college athletes are "exploited." That argument is a canard. Yes, they get a free education, and get to eat free meals, and get tutors and great weightlifting facilities. So does Kobe Bryant. (Well, he did, until last month.)

With every booster scandal, we confirm what we already suspect: Many people who eager to pay these young men for their work, and the NCAA cabal won't allow it.

Should college athletes be paid? That's not really the question. No, the question is this: Should college athletes be a allowed to be paid? Should they be allowed to take money for doing something perfectly legal?

Of course they should. In America in 2011, why are we even debating this?

Colleges have assigned themselves the role of Robin Hood: they take the earnings of football and basketball players and give most of it to swimmers, soccer players and other not-so-popular athletes.

That's not terrible. But it is still wrong. And yet ... well, progress comes in small steps, and for now, I'm willing to let schools keep on doing that. Really. Just loosen the rules so the most popular athletes can cash in on their fame and success. Let them sign endorsement deals, take money from boosters and get free tattoos and meals.

Then the NCAA can stop slapping every hand that is out and focus its energy and money on academic fraud and education standards for athletes.

The republic will survive. Fans will still watch the NCAA tournament. Double-reverses will still be thrilling. Alabama will still hate Auburn. Everybody will still hate Duke. Let's do what's right and re-examine what we think is wrong.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...nberg/07/25/ncaa.pay/index.html#ixzz1TGdqer7I
 
I agree with him, 100%. As long as they aren't paid with university funds, who cares who gives them money for what. In every other arena people are paid for their talents, except athletics.

Time to change.
 
It seems like it would cause a multitude of problems. Coaches would essentially be able to tell boosters who and what to give to players, even it that was 'against the rules'. Do players only get paid once they enroll? Then do coaches make the promises of deliveries of thousands of dollars once the student gets on campus? Are those promises binding?

Should the T. Boone Pickens and Phil Knights, etc... really be given free reign on essentially purchasing players and turning college sports into what Major League Baseball is? Where the bluebloods are able to essentially get who they want, when they want, and the small market schools have to piece together the scraps to make a decent team.
 
NO. Absolutely NOT. Then the running back who doesnt get paid enough wants more... or the WR who breaks out halfway through his soph year, and isnt getting enough...

Leave the game the way it is, and nail the crap out of cheaters!
 
It seems like it would cause a multitude of problems. Coaches would essentially be able to tell boosters who and what to give to players, even it that was 'against the rules'. Do players only get paid once they enroll? Then do coaches make the promises of deliveries of thousands of dollars once the student gets on campus? Are those promises binding?

Should the T. Boone Pickens and Phil Knights, etc... really be given free reign on essentially purchasing players and turning college sports into what Major League Baseball is? Where the bluebloods are able to essentially get who they want, when they want, and the small market schools have to piece together the scraps to make a decent team.

Don't the bluebloods already get who they want, when they want? Arent the small market schools already having to piece together scraps to make a decent team?

Teams will continue to find ways to pay these guys, the rules will always be broken, and the bottom line is, the school makes millions of dollars because of winning and the types of players they bring in, and the athlete gets a scholarship. That's not a fair trade.
 
I actually agree to a certain extend. I do think kids are making the university a ton of money and in some way the kids should reap some of those rewards.

whether it be giving the kids a bonus if they run for X yards, dont allow a sack, get a sack, throw for X yards....so on so forth

Or how bout if we win they all get X bonus.

My big problem is when I see the university selling jerseys like with Adrian Peterson was here, with his number, making a ton of money and Adrian doesnt see a dime. Would that jersey have sold if it was the 4th string RB's number, answer is no....
 
Really? When an athlete sells his jersey so he can pay rent, and the NCAA suspends him, is the NCAA really protecting him? Who is the NCAA kidding?

The author is really reaching here. I'm not buying this argument at all. Room and board for these athletes IS paid by their school. Now, what those athletes do with that money is another thing. Also, they are receiving 4 (or 5) years of a free education, every meal is paid for, tutoring, etc, etc, etc. The corruption is bad enough as it is, I think it would be out the roof if they are getting paid.
 
This is really ridiculous. Athletes get all the same benefits that normal students get, PLUS a bunch. They don't have to pay rent. They don't have to pay for food. Free education. Access to an endless of amount of workout equipment and tutors. If they want extra spending money, they can get summer jobs and/or take out additional loans. That is what a vast majority of regular students have to do.
 
This is really ridiculous. Athletes get all the same benefits that normal students get, PLUS a bunch. They don't have to pay rent. They don't have to pay for food. Free education. Access to an endless of amount of workout equipment and tutors. If they want extra spending money, they can get summer jobs and/or take out additional loans. That is what a vast majority of regular students have to do.[/QUOTE]

These arent regular students....the likes of people like adrian peterson are making millions for the university in jersey sales and other marketing schemes.
 
These arent regular students....the likes of people like adrian peterson are making millions for the university in jersey sales and other marketing schemes.

So? You don't think some of those Merit Scholars bring in money for OU? You don't think those students draw in massive donations and gifts for the academic side? Should they be compensated for that? AD got paid for his "contributions" to OU football with a couple of years of free education, free room and board, free meals, and countless other things. Why should he, or any other player, be entitled to more?
 
So? You don't think some of those Merit Scholars bring in money for OU? You don't think those students draw in massive donations and gifts for the academic side? Should they be compensated for that? AD got paid for his "contributions" to OU football with a couple of years of free education, free room and board, free meals, and countless other things. Why should he, or any other player, be entitled to more?

A merit scholar brings no were near the money to the university as AD....AD could have cared less about school....like it or not these kids are not here for school, they are here to play sports (for the most part)

And Merit scholars are allowed to accept gifts and various things wereas athletes cannot without the potential of getting in trouble.
 
Athletes do not get full cost of attendance. Their scholarships are enough, as long as we don't expect them to ever eat out or have fun. I guess they can just get a job...oh wait they are restricted on when and how much they work, if they had any time at all between school and athletics.

Paying players is a tough sell, because of Title IX and potential for corruption. The full cost of attendance that several conferences have discussed is a good compromise. That way athletes aren't struggling for things that other college kids take for granted. If they can afford to take their girlfriend out on a date or buy an occasional video game, maybe they would be less tempted to take money from a booster.
 
If they can afford to take their girlfriend out on a date or buy an occasional video game, maybe they would be less tempted to take money from a booster.

That is just it, there is no way that is how it plays out.

Kids aren't taking "date and video game" money from boosters. They are taking tens of thousands of dollars, in most cases. You really think the Reggie Bush or Cam Newton cases "don't exist" if the school is giving each of those kids a little cash here and there to eat out on? No way.

And nobody has responded to this.....there are plenty of students that take a course load that doesn't allow them to work. If they need extra money, they take out loans. Athletes should do the same thing.
 
Athletes do not get full cost of attendance.

What don't they get? They don't pay for school or books. I'm guessing things like parking passes are covered. They workout for free. They have at least three free meals a day, I'd guess. Maybe they aren't living it up like kings, but tell me a single expense that they HAVE TO INCUR, that isn't paid for?
 
So? You don't think some of those Merit Scholars bring in money for OU? You don't think those students draw in massive donations and gifts for the academic side? Should they be compensated for that? AD got paid for his "contributions" to OU football with a couple of years of free education, free room and board, free meals, and countless other things. Why should he, or any other player, be entitled to more?

A merit scholar probably also does work for the school and other organizations using his/her knowledge and ability and gets paid for their talent. They can also accept whatever kind of money they want. If they are working on some research while in school they can make a lot of money from the school, in the form of a grant, or from third party organizations who they work for.

The school puts up a Josh Heupel or Adrian Peterson jersey, makes millions, and the athlete who made the school that money gets a cafeteria pass and can live in 500sqft dorm for free? What part of that seems like an equal trade to you?

Example.. my uncle is a software engineer. He was primarily self-taught, has a lot of talent and ability, and while in college he used his talent and ability to make lots of money writing software on a contract basis. In every other area, the person with talent can profit from that talent, except amateur athletics. Instead, it is under the table and coaches/schools/players/fans get punished when these types of arrangements are made.

What don't they get? They don't pay for school or books. I'm guessing things like parking passes are covered. They workout for free. They have at least three free meals a day, I'd guess. Maybe they aren't living it up like kings, but tell me a single expense that they HAVE TO INCUR, that isn't paid for?

They have a skill that is worth millions in this society, and we are talking about how they get parking passes and school books for free? Seriously?
 
That is just it, there is no way that is how it plays out.

Kids aren't taking "date and video game" money from boosters. They are taking tens of thousands of dollars, in most cases. You really think the Reggie Bush or Cam Newton cases "don't exist" if the school is giving each of those kids a little cash here and there to eat out on? No way.

And nobody has responded to this.....there are plenty of students that take a course load that doesn't allow them to work. If they need extra money, they take out loans. Athletes should do the same thing.

LMAO...during football season no student is putting in the time these athletes are putting in for sports and school....I was an electrical engineer for two years before switching to mathematics at OU. I studied alot but still had time to party and everything....Never once did I have to wake up at 4 or 5 AM to study...these kids wake up early to work out

You cant compare students to athletes, thats just dumb
 
Heck I played baseball in college for a year and a half (before transferring to OU)....I had to wake up at 6 AM and swim in the pool for X miles. Go to class. Directly after class hit some BP. Eat dinner, then usually come back for a game or practice depending on what season it was.

You just cant compare athletes to students. Their workout schedule is crazy and very demanding
 
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