All five Kentucky players going pro.

Cheno said:
The NBA is becoming more pure than college basketball.
College basketball, recruiting, AAU, cheating.....sorry but college basketball is slimier than the NBA. And it's really not even close.
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Also by Cheno "There is nothing wrong with that. If I'm a recruit the coach is probably the biggest independent factor I'm looking at as well.
I don't see what you laid out as a problem. This is America. People have choices on where they want to work. That is why I think an 18 year old graduated senior should be able to play in the NBA."

Are you saying it's slimy but it's America?

End of season coaching changes happen in all sports but 3 weeks before signing day is much more a hoops issue. The 2 signing days and timing of the 2nd only increase the volatility. Football has become more stable the last decade while basketball has become crazier. Changing the timing of signing day/days in relationship to the season is long overdue.
 
SoonerTraveler said:
Seriously, I look forward to watching future Sooners play here for 4 years, or 2-3 years for JUCO recruits.

Blake was an exception to the rule. As an OU basketball fan, I could live happily-ever-after without anymore one-and-done type recruits.

Screw the NBA. I want to see good college basketball played by good, solid college basketball players. I want to become "attached" to players that I watch grow over their OU careers. You know. Players like Hollis Price, Eduardo Najara and Kevin Bookout. (And yes, I know that Eduardo is in the NBA, but he spent 5 years at OU and I enjoyed watching him play and develop.)

I want to support my team, and not a bunch of arrogant jerks that could care less about my university.
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I've got to agree with this. I've been watching OU and OSU for 25+ years and the only players I can think of that left early for the NBA were Blake Griffin for OU and James Anderson for OSU. My memory isn't what is once was, maybe someone can think of other players? Regardless, my point is that OU and OSU both have had some darn good teams over that time period and we've never had those "one and done" type of players. I would rather have a player who is dedicated to the team first, then his NBA dreams (if any) second. You mentioned Najara - he's a great example of a hard-nosed player who works very hard for everything he's gotten. Although I didn't care for him when he played for you guys - I definitely admire his work ethic and hard-nosed play.
 
DM said:
He'd take BJ Mullen's roster spot in a heartbeat.
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I dont think he's any better than Mullens. At least Mullens had some offensive game in college. Orton may be a better shot-blocker, but he' no better anywhere else. They both had no business going pro after one year. But at least Mullens was a starter.
 
capelfan52 said:
I dont think he's any better than Mullens. At least Mullens had some offensive game in college. Orton may be a better shot-blocker, but he' no better anywhere else. They both had no business going pro after one year. But at least Mullens was a starter.
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They are pretty different players. Orton is more of a banger and defender and Mullens is more of a finesse player, he shoots the ball really well and is a really good athlete but seems allergic to the paint.
 
capelfan52 said:
I dont think he's any better than Mullens. At least Mullens had some offensive game in college. Orton may be a better shot-blocker, but he' no better anywhere else. They both had no business going pro after one year. But at least Mullens was a starter.
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It just depends on what you need. If you need someone to patrol the paint by blocking shots and rebounding, then Orton is your man. Teams need more of that than what BJ Mullens has to offer. Also, if Orton were at OU, he's probably averaging 12pts a game. being the 7th option offensively at the second ranked team in the nation doesn't offer alot of points.
 
I don't see any reason to change the signing period dates.

Requiring all players to sign early just isn't realistic. A lot of guys honestly just don't know yet where they want to go (and this goes for all high school seniors, not just basketball recruits). It's ridiculous to force them into an early decision. A lot of guys also really blossom as seniors and earn scholarships they didn't have before. Plus you've got situations where players leave a college team and spots open up unexpectedly. Mizzou is going to lose two most likely, and OU is losing several players. Should these spots just sit empty?

I don't really have any problem with the one and done rule as it is. I think the problems it creates are vastly overstated. I would prefer to see a two and done rule (with still no straight to the NBA allowed), but can live with what we have now.
 
DM said:
It just depends on what you need. If you need someone to patrol the paint by blocking shots and rebounding, then Orton is your man.
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"Patrol the paint"?????
Orton avg 3 rebounds and 1 block shot a game.
Sheesh.
 
Sawyer said:
I don't see any reason to change the signing period dates.

Requiring all players to sign early just isn't realistic. A lot of guys honestly just don't know yet where they want to go (and this goes for all high school seniors, not just basketball recruits). It's ridiculous to force them into an early decision. A lot of guys also really blossom as seniors and earn scholarships they didn't have before. Plus you've got situations where players leave a college team and spots open up unexpectedly. Mizzou is going to lose two most likely, and OU is losing several players. Should these spots just sit empty?
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Well if you want kids to sign late, why sign them early because if there is a coaching change these kids want to leave? If you want kids to sign late with 1 signing, why not mid May a month later. That way the new coaches of a school have a shot to retain commitments or court new kids.
 
He projects higher than Aldrich and Deandre Jordan as a Freshman and has a higher ceiling than gallon......
 
Cheno said:
Yeah, what was I thinking. Dude can't get on the court at Kentucky but the NBA he'll patrol the paint. :ez-roll:
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In Orton's defense, he was playing behind 2 lottery picks at post.

Not saying Orton would dominate the paint otherwise, but he was a good enough defensive presence to the point that he impressed scouts when he spelled Cousins/Patterson off the bench.

I think he can be a solid back-up in the NBA if he continues to work hard and progress with his development.
 
stoops4pres said:
In Orton's defense, he was playing behind 2 lottery picks at post.
Not saying Orton would dominate the paint otherwise, but he was a good enough defensive presence to the point that he impressed scouts when he spelled Cousins/Patterson off the bench.
I think he can be a solid back-up in the NBA if he continues to work hard and progress with his development.
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I don't disagree he could turn into a solid NBA backup but I sure the heck wouldn't take him top 20. Guy is always hurt and really to me...his upside is NBA backup. I think there is just as good a chance he's out of the league in 5 years.
 
Cheno said:
I don't disagree he could turn into a solid NBA backup but I sure the heck wouldn't take him top 20. Guy is always hurt and really to me...his upside is NBA backup. I think there is just as good a chance he's out of the league in 5 years.
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I see where your coming from. Will be interesting to see how his career turns out. To be honest (and I've touched on this before) everyone knows he should stay another year to refine his game. He would benefit himself greatly from that, but I guess its hard for him to turn down those dollar signs.
 
dang i liked Rod's game. Didnt know he was even on Cal's staff till I saw him walking around with a clipboard when I saw Memphis play at MSG.
 
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