Am I the only one who is sick of football?

[brumFTW]

Agreed. When I see that list, it's hard for me to be too upset. That isn't factoring in the 2 RB's that transferred, and Haywood, who might have been getting TE snaps as average as our TE play has been.

Just seems like everything that could have went wrong this year, did.

Exactly, which is going to happen once in a while; Unless, you buy into Pete Carroll's delusions: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Win-Forever-Live-Work-Champion/dp/1591843235"]"Win Forever"[/ame]:facepalm

 

[greenbug]

Unless he brings the dozen or so NFL first rounders he has playing under him at Alabama, I doubt he'll make much of a difference.

The spread is dominant in virtually every conference. The few teams who can shut it down consistently—USC, LSU, Florida, Alabama—do so because they're stacked with NFL talent, not because they have figured out some schematic solution.

Oklahoma, for all its recruiting success, has struggled to develop elite talent in the secondary. Just look at NFL starting lineups today for evidence of that. I believe there will be one OU product (Quinton Carter, Broncos) starting this weekend for an NFL team. Mizzou will have two (William Moore, Falcons, and Kevin Rutland will get his first start today with Jacksonville).

When you recruit like OU does, it's flat out inexcusable to have so few players in the NFL. Granted, there are another few guys on rosters, but it's still not in line with the type of talent OU should have. When you play in a pass-happy conference and can out-recruit all but maybe one team, you should have no shortage of elite cover corners. OU hasn't. That's a failure on Bob Stoops' part, which is surprising considering he was a safety himself.

OU doesn't land elite corners. Elite corners want to press and cover man to man with not a lot of zone. Most of the guys we land are more suitable for free safety imo.

 

[WTSooner]

OU doesn't land elite corners. Elite corners want to press and cover man to man with not a lot of zone. Most of the guys we land are more suitable for free safety imo.

Agreed. And this is the Catch 22 of the Big 12 vs SEC argument.

The SEC offenses are more pro-style, which leads them to play more traditional, pro-style defenses. That affects recruiting. They also have more depth, defensively, at DL and LB, while the Big 12 teams play more nickel and dime, and therefore have less depth upfront b/c of the need for extra DB's.

 

[DenverSooner]

West Virginia just earned a tie in a mid-major level conference on a last-second field goal over a 5-win team.

Nice spin on the "combined to win 1 BCS Bowl ever." Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri and A&M are far more historically relevant than TCU and West Virginia.

Take out Nebraksa and I am not sure you can still say that. With Nebraska you are clearly correct.

A&M is absolutely not hisotically relevant. They have the most over inflated opinion of themselves in all of college football. Personally, I would rank A&M about par with OSU and Missouri. All three schools are reasonably competitive with an occassional nice year but none of them are major players. Honestly, I prefer OSU and Missouri over A&M because their fans are not so dillusional. I don't think of West Virginia or TCU as a major player either.

 

[DenverSooner]

What I don't like about OU football is the manner in which it fan base deals with down but still above average seasons. This was a good season for 95% of college football programs (if not more) yet at OU fans act like the head coach should be fired. It is ridiculous. Bob Stoops has done a great job at OU. I was happy he was the coach when the season started and I am happy he is still the coach.

 

[WaymansFadeaway]

I havent watched a single OU football game this year... just bits and pieces, checking the score, that type of thing. I didnt watch a single second of the game last night, although I checked the score on my phone while I was out and about.

I did watch OSU vs K-State (K-state is my favorite college football program when Bill Snyder is on the sidelines), K-State vs Miami, and maybe another game or two that I am forgetting.

PGA Golf > NBA Basketball > College basketball > NFL Football > College Football

That is my order of importance.

This post actually makes me feel better about you. At least now theres a clear understanding as to why you are so clueless when it comes to college athletics.

Completely clueless... no offense.

 

[OklahomaLibertarian]

• No playoff.
  
• Annoyingly stupid offensive schemes.
  
• QB's standing around looking to the sideline for a play.
  
• Never firing Venebles.

All equal me not enjoying college football anymore. I prefer basketball now. NFL has also gotten boring.

 

[KCRuf/Nek]

Actually I'm tired of our fans pizzing and moaning and acting like children. Part of being a fan is taking the good with the bad. am I happy about some of the games? No, but it's not like I can go play QB and make it better. I don't know about all of you but losing to OSU isn't going to wreck my life.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Actually I'm tired of our fans pizzing and moaning and acting like children. Part of being a fan is taking the good with the bad. am I happy about some of the games? No, but it's not like I can go play QB and make it better. I don't know about all of you but losing to OSU isn't going to wreck my life.

+1 to the 1000th power!

 

[bocabull]

Stoops is just not very bright when it comes to math. I remember in the 2008 RRS he punted the ball at midfield with no timeouts and only 3 minutes left on 4th and 4. All Texas needed was a timeout and of course they got it.

This year he calls timeout in a tie game on the road when the other team (who is out of timeouts and has gained over 500 yards BTW) is trying to run out the clock and head to OT.

For somebody who uses complex mathematical models and quantitative analysis to earn a living it is disgusting to watch. I've been calling him bozo Bob for a long time and every year the evidence mounts.

 

[sperry]

Sawyer, how do you feel about Gary Pinkel voting OSU 4th on his final coaches poll ballot? Pretty despicable if you ask me, kissing the arse of his new conference overlords rather than voting with integrity.

 

[stoops4pres]

Stoops is just not very bright when it comes to math. I remember in the 2008 RRS he punted the ball at midfield with no timeouts and only 3 minutes left on 4th and 4. All Texas needed was a timeout and of course they got it.

This year he calls timeout in a tie game on the road when the other team (who is out of timeouts and has gained over 500 yards BTW) is trying to run out the clock and head to OT.

For somebody who uses complex mathematical models and quantitative analysis to earn a living it is disgusting to watch. I've been calling him bozo Bob for a long time and every year the evidence mounts.

Are you sure you're not thinking of another game? The last time OU punted that game was when they were down by 3 with 7 minutes to go in the 4th, which was definitely within reason.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=282850201&period=4

 

[WTSooner]

Those of you begging for the KState offense, you remember why OU went away from that, and to the spread (which we aren't a 100% spread team anymore) or a passing offense, right? No NFL-level QB wants to run the KState offense. No NFL-level OL want to run block in an option-based scheme. No NFL-level receivers want to go to a place that doesn't throw it often. Bob wanted to attract high-end talent, and the way to do that is to have a passing-based offense.

The schemes we are running is not the problem. Not on offense. And not on defense. The schemes are fine. They are sound. Our offense isn't all that different then what OSU is running, and they nearly got their POS school to the NC game with it, and very little defense.

 

[MsProudSooner]

OMG...When is this mentality gonna go away? Our defense has been piss poor the majority of the time Brent V. has been here. DEFENSE is the mark of a championship caliber team. Look at LSU yesterday whose offense struggled the first half. What unit held strong until the O got going? DEFENSE people. We give up a ton of points and yards year after year and all I ever hear people complain about is our offense. Did we struggle offensively yesterday? Absolutely...but to sit here and act like the defense wasn't heavily responsible is a joke. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE IN DEFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY. I am sick and tired of poor tackling, bad angles, soft coverage, no pressure, lack of physicality etc.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

I didn't say the defense played great. Did the LSU offense give away 21 points in that game? I don't think so. Yes a good defense can bear up when the offense struggles - if the offense doesn't gift wrap touchdowns for the opponents. No defense can withstand the offense giving away 21 points. All of the things you brought up are valid points of discussion, but our offense put the defense behind the 8 ball all night long and there is absolutely no denying that.

 

[bocabull]

Are you sure you're not thinking of another game? The last time OU punted that game was when they were down by 3 with 7 minutes to go in the 4th, which was definitely within reason.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=282850201&period=4

Nope that's the exact game. My facts were a little off but looking at the drive chart refreshes my memory.

Texas had scored on 6 of their previous 7 possessions (86%). We had not punted since the 1st qtr. There's 7 minutes left and it's 4th & 2 from midfield. Which is more probable, us getting 2 yards or stopping them? Since I started doubting Stoops in 2004 I have paid closer attention than most to his constant gameday errors. When things get tight, he blinks and makes the wrong decision and I'm not talking about subjective things like play calling. I'm talking game management. He freezes.

There is a reason we lose every single time we play any team with talent close to ours not named Texas. The good thing is that football coaches in general aren't very bright so Stoops is better than average. But there is a reason Mike Leach runs up and down the field with FCS talent. He's just smarter than the guy on the other sideline.

 

[WTSooner]

There is a reason we lose every single time we play any team with talent close to ours not named Texas.

Lame. Any team I named that wasn't Bama or LSU, you'd probably claim OU had more talent then. Fact is, OU has beaten a lot of highly ranked teams, even in recent years. We stomped KSU, and they nearly went to a BCS game. I'm sure FSU's roster has nearly as much NFL talent as we do, if not more.

 

[tycat947]

Actually I'm tired of our fans pizzing and moaning and acting like children. Part of being a fan is taking the good with the bad. am I happy about some of the games? No, but it's not like I can go play QB and make it better. I don't know about all of you but losing to OSU isn't going to wreck my life.

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

 

[tycat947]

Sawyer, how do you feel about Gary Pinkel voting OSU 4th on his final coaches poll ballot? Pretty despicable if you ask me, kissing the arse of his new conference overlords rather than voting with integrity.

Pickle begged for the SEC and got it so he HAS to kiss the a$$ of his new conference!!!

 

[bocabull]

Lame. Any team I named that wasn't Bama or LSU, you'd probably claim OU had more talent then. Fact is, OU has beaten a lot of highly ranked teams, even in recent years. We stomped KSU, and they nearly went to a BCS game. I'm sure FSU's roster has nearly as much NFL talent as we do, if not more.

You haven't been around long obviously. I can count on a 1 hand the games Stoops has won as an underdog in his 12 years. Last one I think was Oregon way back in the Bomar 2005 season. Before that you had to go back to 2000. Stoops has lost 34 games at OU and only won 5 or fewer as an underdog. That's way lopsided.

We were favored by double digits vs KSU this year. Their talent is not even top 40.

 

[stoops4pres]

Nope that's the exact game. My facts were a little off but looking at the drive chart refreshes my memory.

I think there's a huge difference punting with over 7 minutes to play, and punting with 3 minutes to play.

Texas had scored on 6 of their previous 7 possessions (86%). We had not punted since the 1st qtr. There's 7 minutes left and it's 4th & 2 from midfield. Which is more probable, us getting 2 yards or stopping them? Since I started doubting Stoops in 2004 I have paid closer attention than most to his constant gameday errors. When things get tight, he blinks and makes the wrong decision and I'm not talking about subjective things like play calling. I'm talking game management. He freezes.

Well considering we couldn't run the ball if our life depended on it that day, I'd argue that neither scenario had much probability to succeed .

Hindsight's always 20/20, but you had an OL that had been abused by Texas' DL all day, 4th and 2 from midfield. You are only down a field goal, but while Texas had scored 6 out of 7 possessions seemingly half of those were field goals. So it's still a one possession game if forcing Texas to a field goal. It was the right call to make at the time, it just didn't work out that way.

Also, I'd argue we've lost quite a few games playing equal caliber due to injuries. See Jason White vs. LSU, and Demarco Murray vs. Florida (given the fact that he was one of the nation's best playmakers in '08, and is tearing up the NFL, Florida's pretty fortunate they didn't have to play him). Nevertheless, we were still extremely close to hoisting 3 crystal balls rather than 1.

Stoops has a great record against ranked teams, and has owned the Big 12 which has been one of the top 2 conferences in America since Stoops joined OU.... While I agree that a change or two needs to be made within the program, I think you're taking for granted the fantastic tenure Stoops has had here.