Big 12 will get 7 bids....

[stormspencer]

Based upon Baylor winning tonight and OSU winning last night, both teams will finish no worse than 8-10 in conference. Combine that with Baylor's solid OOC results along with OSU's wins in conference (KU, Texas, KSU) and Memphis (OOC), the Big 12 will have seven teams. Of course, this is contingent upon the 7 seed in KC (Baylor or OSU) not doing something stupid like losing to TCU in the opening round. I don't know if this is unprecedented for a 10 team league or not, but I would imagine it might be.

 

[Chaser728]

Based upon Baylor winning tonight and OSU winning last night, both teams will finish no worse than 8-10 in conference. Combine that with Baylor's solid OOC results along with OSU's wins in conference (KU, Texas, KSU) and Memphis (OOC), the Big 12 will have seven teams. Of course, this is based upon the 7 seed in KC (Baylor or OSU) not doing something stupid like losing to TCU in the opening round. I don't know if this is unprecedented for a 10 team league or not, but I would imagine it might be.

There is no one in the country who would've predicted this at the beginning of the season. As far as it being precedented, I wonder if the Big 10 (really 11) did it before they added Nebraska.

 

[StatGeek]

Highest % of conference teams to make the tourney is .667 (6/9 ACC 4 times). Most teams from 1 conference: Big East 11.

7/10 would set a new record for % of conference in the tourney.

Edit: Big 8 sent 6/8 in 1992 & 1993, presumably the record, but not verified.

 

[UHsurfer12]

Highest % of conference teams to make the tourney is .667 (6/9 ACC 4 times). Most teams from 1 conference: Big East 11.

7/10 would set a new record for % of conference in the tourney.

I see you really live up to your name there.

 

[DenverSooner]

Based upon Baylor winning tonight and OSU winning last night, both teams will finish no worse than 8-10 in conference. Combine that with Baylor's solid OOC results along with OSU's wins in conference (KU, Texas, KSU) and Memphis (OOC), the Big 12 will have seven teams. Of course, this is contingent upon the 7 seed in KC (Baylor or OSU) not doing something stupid like losing to TCU in the opening round. I don't know if this is unprecedented for a 10 team league or not, but I would imagine it might be.

The Big 8 once got 6 teams so on a percentage basis it is not the best our conference has ever done but it is pretty impressive.

 

[DenverSooner]

Highest % of conference teams to make the tourney is .667 (6/9 ACC 4 times). Most teams from 1 conference: Big East 11.

7/10 would set a new record for % of conference in the tourney.

I don't think this is correct. I am pretty sure the Big XII sent 6 teams to the NCAA tournament around 1992ish.

 

[StatGeek]

I don't think this is correct. I am pretty sure the Big XII sent 6 teams to the NCAA tournament around 1992ish.

I thought I had a reliable source on this but apparently I did not. I went back and checked the brackets myself and the Big 8 had 6 teams in 1992 & 1993. So, with that said, I 'm not sure what the highest % of a conference to make the tourney would be, it could be the 75% by the Big 8.

In 1993 everyone in the big 8 made it except OU & Colorado
In 1992 everyone in the big 8 made it except KSU & Colorado.

 

[WaymanFan]

In 1993 everyone in the big 8 made it except OU & Colorado

Yeah, our bubble burst when last-place Missouri ran the table in the conference tournament...had they lost the conference tourney final, we would have gotten in. Regardless, that was Billy's only bad coaching job based on the talent level.

7 out of 10 is pretty darn impressive. At the beginning of the year, most of us were predicting 4 teams being good enough, 5 tops.

 

[Ham]

Big Ten got 7/10 in 1990.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament

West - Michigan, Ohio State
Southeast - Michigan St, Minnesota
East - Indiana
Midwest - Purdue, Illinois

FTR, Penn State didn't play basketball in the Big Ten until '92-'93.

 

[DenverSooner]

Imagine how strong the Big 8/12 would be if our fans actually understood what a great basketball conference we have.

 

[badger]

If West Virginia miraculously upsets us tonight, does the Big 12 have an outside chance at 8 bids?

 

[oSuJeff97]

If West Virginia miraculously upsets us tonight, does the Big 12 have an outside chance at 8 bids?

I think WVU would still have to win a few games in the Big 12 tournament, and that might not even be enough.

They have no good non-conference wins and their non-conference SOS isn't that great.

They are #90 in RPI right now and aren't even really considered "on the bubble" by the bracketologists. They aren't listed any anyone's "first four out" or "next four out" lists.

 

[Kewllane]

If WVU upset us tonight and beat KU on Saturday, then won some games in the conference tourney, they would have an outside chance. Hope that doesn't happen though!

 

[CoachTalk]

Why should OSU be guarenteed in the tourney? they are tied for 8th... I know they beat WV twice but I think they are getting a "free" pass on being on the bubble.

 

[campbest]

Why should OSU be guarenteed in the tourney? they are tied for 8th... I know they beat WV twice but I think they are getting a "free" pass on being on the bubble.

Free pass?

Their status is in line with every other bubble team in the past according to the metrics. A good RPI, SOS and some quality wins almost guarantees you a bid.

 

[CoachTalk]

Free pass?

Their status is in line with every other bubble team in the past according to the metrics. A good RPI, SOS and some quality wins almost guarantees you a bid.

So you think they are bubble? Seems like everyone considers them a lock.

 

[oSuJeff97]

So you think they are bubble? Seems like everyone considers them a lock.

Have you examined the other bubble teams?

It's a weak bubble this year, and the Big 12 is ridiculously strong, which is why all of the bracketologists have OSU and Baylor as virtual "locks" at this point.

Or at least they are on the "safe side" of the bubble with neither even in the "last four in" line at this point.

OSU has 5 wins against the RPI top 50 and another 3 against the RPI top 100.

Baylor has 7 wins against the RPI top 50 and another 1 against the RPI top 100.

Go look at other "bubble" teams out there... hardly any have such a high number of quality wins.

Here's a sampling -- bubble teams and their number of RPI top 50 wins:

BYU - 3
Minnesota - 3
Xavier - 3
Nebraska - 3
Dayton - 3
LSU - 3
Richmond - 3
Mizzou - 2
Providence - 2
Tennessee - 2
Pitt - 1
Gonzaga - 1
Clemson - 1
St. John's - 1

Furthermore, most of these teams have at least 1 or 2 "bad losses"... or in the case of Xavier, LSU and Nebraska, they have at least 3.

Neither Baylor nor OSU have any "bad losses."

 

[tycat947]

MIZ...ZOU!!! I thought they were the NEXT Kentucky when they went to the SEC! Now you're telling me they may not make the tourney this year??? Don't they have Frank Haith as head coach??? The world MUST be spinning the wrong direction now!!!

 

[campbest]

So you think they are bubble? Seems like everyone considers them a lock.

The win on Monday pretty much guarantees them a bid.

 

[oSuJeff97]

MIZ...ZOU!!! I thought they were the NEXT Kentucky when they went to the SEC! Now you're telling me they may not make the tourney this year??? Don't they have Frank Haith as head coach??? The world MUST be spinning the wrong direction now!!!

Mizzou is in big trouble.

They are only 1-2 against the RPI top 50, and that was a home win against UCLA in early December.

Their best win since then was a home win against RPI #49 Tennessee, another bubble team.

Their only games left before the SEC tournament probably aren't going to help either - at home against Texas A&M and on the road at Tennessee.

Meanwhile, they have 7 losses in the SEC against fellow bubble teams.