Blake Griffin's season is over

[thewez]

A fine thread for the NBA board.

Blake is a good pro with some punk tendencies. How much of that is him and how much of that is playing alongside Chris Paul, who is the unquestioned PUNK of the NBA, remains to be seen. He sure does seem to get dinged a lot though, and at very inopportune times.

Go Sonics.

Exhibit B for Skyvue's point. At least the "punk" part.
Also funny how much fans around here hate Chris Paul, seeing as he was liked when the hornets were here

 

[Eielson]

Exhibit B for Skyvue's point. At least the "punk" part.
Also funny how much fans around here hate Chris Paul, seeing as he was liked when the hornets were here

I was also intrigued by the "good pro" comment. While perhaps unintentional, that's selling him woefully short. We're talking about a guy who started on Team USA and went to the All-Star games each of his first five seasons. He's also averaging more points and rebounds in the NBA than any other OU player ever, and is second in assists.

 

[WTSooner]

He's also averaging more points and rebounds in the NBA than any other OU player ever, and is second in assists.

That doesn't mean jack considering OU doesn't have much of any history with sending guys to the NBA that turn(ed) into anything.

Cannot stand OU fans that defend all things OU, and act like its' simply not possible to be an OU fan and not like certain things about "OU". The chip that some of you have on your shoulders is about the size of Texas.

 

[NickZepp]

A fine thread for the NBA board.

Blake is a good pro with some punk tendencies. How much of that is him and how much of that is playing alongside Chris Paul, who is the unquestioned PUNK of the NBA, remains to be seen. He sure does seem to get dinged a lot though, and at very inopportune times.

Go Sonics.

If he didn't play at OU it would be on the NBA board. As I said before in Buddy topics it is good to have OU players do well in the NBA. We need to see that number be more than a couple like it's been since basically end of the Tubbs era. Tubbs didn't really get a lot of pros his last few years also.

 

[Eielson]

That doesn't mean jack considering OU doesn't have much of any history with sending guys to the NBA that turn(ed) into anything.

But what about the rest of the rest of the quote that you left off?

 

[oudna]

I was also intrigued by the "good pro" comment. While perhaps unintentional, that's selling him woefully short. We're talking about a guy who started on Team USA and went to the All-Star games each of his first five seasons. He's also averaging more points and rebounds in the NBA than any other OU player ever, and is second in assists.

Yeah, all-star pro would be more appropriate.

 

[WTSooner]

But what about the rest of the rest of the quote that you left off?

I wasn't replying to that part.

I don't reply to every part of every message on this board.

 

[Sooner04]

Tough crowd!

Part of being a great pro is staying on the floor. Some of his injuries are flukes, and some are self-inflicted. Busting you hand upside the trainer's face is absolutely unforgivable.

I think he gets a terrible rap from Thunder fans. As an impartial observer (remember, I have no team....Go Sonics!) it always made me laugh because when I would see the exchanges it was pretty obvious to me that Ibaka was the dirty player.

And I'm also not the type to just blindly follow Sooners into the pros. I have my professional teams and I've stuck with them through a crapload of thin. As a Vikings fan, one can only handle so many soul-crushing, drive-killing fumbles from Adrian Peterson.

 

[tmeyer3307]

Blake needs to go to the East and dominate there! The bigs aren't near as good or physical. It might help him stay healthy as well. Even with the injuries he's a top 2-3 PF in the league. I also think his numbers would be quite a bit better without Chris Paul and Jordan! Hate seeing him get these freak injuries like this.

 

[Eielson]

Tough crowd!

Part of being a great pro is staying on the floor. Some of his injuries are flukes, and some are self-inflicted. Busting you hand upside the trainer's face is absolutely unforgivable.

I think he gets a terrible rap from Thunder fans. As an impartial observer (remember, I have no team....Go Sonics!) it always made me laugh because when I would see the exchanges it was pretty obvious to me that Ibaka was the dirty player.

And I'm also not the type to just blindly follow Sooners into the pros. I have my professional teams and I've stuck with them through a crapload of thin. As a Vikings fan, one can only handle so many soul-crushing, drive-killing fumbles from Adrian Peterson.

Being injury-prone is a valid criticism. It seems that he and Paul are never able to both be healthy at the same time in the post-season. I'll also admit he's become more and more whiny as his career has gone on, but I mostly blame the league for that. It's absurd the things people have gotten away with (both NCAA and NBA) against him, and I'll never understand how Ibaka wasn't suspended. He's one of the most powerful specimens in the NBA, and it frustrates his powerless defenders to the point of taking cheap shots. Ibaka's crotch shot was an admission that he was the woman of that altercation. Nothing Blake did warranted that response.

I won't defend him breaking his hand against the trainer's face, but if it weren't for that incident, I think his reputation as a punk would be completely unwarranted.

One of the reasons for OU's resurgence in football recruiting was it's use of social media and former players. It's not that hard to bring in big-time RB's when you introduce them to Adrian Peterson and Demarco Murray. In the same way, I think we're missing out on a huge opportunity by not fully backing the undisputed most successful NBA player we've ever had. It's not going to make or break our program, but it's something I'd like to see.

 

[jmizzy4ou]

Tough crowd!

Part of being a great pro is staying on the floor. Some of his injuries are flukes, and some are self-inflicted. Busting you hand upside the trainer's face is absolutely unforgivable.

I think he gets a terrible rap from Thunder fans. As an impartial observer (remember, I have no team....Go Sonics!) it always made me laugh because when I would see the exchanges it was pretty obvious to me that Ibaka was the dirty player.

And I'm also not the type to just blindly follow Sooners into the pros. I have my professional teams and I've stuck with them through a crapload of thin. As a Vikings fan, one can only handle so many soul-crushing, drive-killing fumbles from Adrian Peterson.

Yep, I pointed this out on the NBA board when my Lakers were still relevant and Thunder fans were TRYING to make themselves LA's new rival, and I was roasted for saying it. Ibaka routinely pulled off cheap shots on opponents when he was in OKC......

 

[coolm]

i'd love to see him play for Boston.

 

[skyvue]

That doesn't mean jack considering OU doesn't have much of any history with sending guys to the NBA that turn(ed) into anything.

Alvin Adams, Garfield Heard, Anthony Bowie, Wayman Tisdale, I could go on.

I know you'll come back and insist that none of those players were all-time greats, just to cover yourself, but that's not what you said. Every one of those players had quality NBA careers -- they turned themselves into something -- and to top their achievements is no small thing.

 

[oudna]

Dude's career average is 21.5 points, 9.4 rebounds, 4.1 assists.

He's far exceeded my expectations of him in the league. Bonafide star.

 

[afaSooner]

I have no inside info but my gut instincts have been telling me since last year that Blake was coming home to play for the Thunder. I felt this ever since Durant announced he's leaving. For one while he's enjoyed himself some big city high life he's also had bad luck with injuries and other strange mishaps. I know he's a spiritual kid so I could see him assigning some of his misfortune to his lifestyle. The other thing is basketball is everything to Blake Griffin and winning is number one. He can win with Westbrook, the greatest PG to ever play, and stamp his legacy in his hometown away from the big city distractions. The minute Durant left this all became an real option. There's little to no doubt at all the Thunder has put feelers out. A lot of Thunder fans have complained about not being able to bring in a big time player in place of Durant but if you look at the guys they've brought it gives the Thunder the ability free up cap... possibly to bring Griffin in next year.

We'll see...

 

[WaymanFan]

That doesn't mean jack considering OU doesn't have much of any history with sending guys to the NBA that turn(ed) into anything.

Why do you post nonsense like that. With Buddy's bright future, OU now has a complete NBA roster - and would compete favorably in a computer-simulated game with all but a handful of schools.

1st Team:
C: Alvan Adams
PF: Blake Griffin
SF: Harvey Grant
SG: Buddy Hield
PG: Mookie Blaylock

2nd Team:
C: Clifford Ray
PF: Wayman Tisdale
SF: Gar Heard
SG: Anthony Bowie
PG: Brent Price

11th & 12 players:
Eduardo Najera and Stacey King.


I recently had a conversation with a basketball fan at work. He was a fan of Eduardo Najera and asked me if he was one of the best OU NBA players of all time. I told him he wouldn't make our two-deep NBA roster. His response? "Wow. I underestimated OU sending guys to the NBA."

All that said...I was sorry to hear about Blake. I was watching the game the other night just because of him. When I saw him slam his fist on the chair, it was hard not to have a bad feeling...feel bad for the man. He had 5 straight years of pretty much injury-free basketball...but the last couple of years has to be frustrating for him, the team and the Clippers fans.

 

[WTSooner]

You guys kind of made my point for me.

Not counting Hield b/c he has played just one season, and not counting Griffin because he is the guy we are comparing, there have only been 3 Sooners average double digit points for their career in the NBA. Those 3 are Adams, Tisdale, and Blaylock. Even the University of Tulsa has 2 guys that have done that.

I stand by my point. OU has had a decent amount of solid role players in the NBA, but not much else.

 

[WaymanFan]

You guys kind of made my point for me.

Not counting Hield b/c he has played just one season, and not counting Griffin because he is the guy we are comparing, there have only been 3 Sooners average double digit points for their career in the NBA. Those 3 are Adams, Tisdale, and Blaylock. Even the University of Tulsa has 2 guys that have done that.

I stand by my point. OU has had a decent amount of solid role players in the NBA, but not much else.

I guess one can rationalize anything. Let's see Tulsa's NBA roster. I wonder which team would win. How about Oklahoma State's NBA roster? There are about a dozen schools with a better NBA roster than OU...so your bunch of NBA role players argument basically applies to just about every college in America.

 

[Eielson]

You guys kind of made my point for me.

Not really. If you look at the Big XII (and I'm including the former members such as Mizzou, A&M, etc.), we have one of the most distinguished lines of NBA players. I'd probably say we're second only to Kansas.

Blake Griffin would be the top NBA guy from nearly every school with Big XII ties. Only KU, WVU (pre-Big XII), and Texas have somebody better, and not even Kansas could keep him out of the top 2 (screw you, Paul Pierce).

I'd have to think on this for a while longer to make this claim, but I think it'd be hard to exclude Blake as one of the top 5 Big 8/12 players of all-time (NBA-wise).

 

[coolm]

meh, hafta agree with WT. ::cough cough::