Calipari takes on the NCAA

[Section31]

yes it does .. OU athletic dept .. pays OU the true cost of tuition .. be it in state or out of state ..

Shhhhhh

 

[JBaker]

Why would he care if 20% of athletes can only receive scholarship based on his his ability? Why should they be allowed to suck on his tit?

This is how you feel about the rich and the poor, right?

 

[Section31]

When a person uses their age to validate their viewpoint 9 times out of 10 it's a tell they have no credibility.

It's not about age itself...it's about EXPERIENCE. I see things far different than when I was young. The only part of the equation that changed was me.

 

[bocabull]

Since football & basketball are really apples & oranges in this discussion and non revenue sports are irrelevant here is the important question.

Is college basketball & the athlete better off if Jabari Parker or Julius Randle or any other guaranteed first round pick is allowed to borrow up to $50,000 which in many cases would be enough for them to spend an extra year or two in college? And is college basketball & Shabazz Napier better off if he was allowed to borrow up to $50,000 against his certain professional earnings so he can go out to eat whenever he wants instead of being tied like a slave to the athletic cafeteria?

The answer is a resounding yes. And this method of financial support does not impact the school or other scholarship athletes 1 bit. It's by far the most intelligent solution.

 

[garyeb2]

yes it does .. OU athletic dept .. pays OU the true cost of tuition .. be it in state or out of state ..

That is correct. There is an actual transfer of funds from the athletic dept. to the school for the cost of the athletes tuition. I don't know about the out of state part. I was under the assumption that all athletes tuition was paid at the instate rate. But, I could be wrong about that.

At lower levels of competition. Those without athletic scholarships. The institution may grant full or partial tuition waivers for ball players. At Div 1 the athletic department pays the freight out of revenues.

 

[campbest]

I'm not even going to the extent and saying players need to be paid more than the full cost of "attendance" (which at a lot of schools doesn't happen), but there are a lot of other provisions which need to be changed in order to make it more equitable.

Hate to beat a dead horse (we are probably past that point) but the 1 year scholarship/transfer rule dichotomy is a perfect example.

 

[campbest]

yes it does .. OU athletic dept .. pays OU the true cost of tuition .. be it in state or out of state ..

...and a lot of schools don't. This is more than just OU.

If breaking away from the have nots in order to make things more equitable is the answer, I am all for that. In reality, that is probably the next step.

 

[JBaker]

Shabazz Napier better off if he was allowed to borrow up to $50,000 against his certain professional earnings so he can go out to eat whenever he wants instead of being tied like a slave to the athletic cafeteria?

Yep, all those delicious, healthy, free meals prepared for him whenever he wants, just like a slave was treated.

 

[JBaker]

...and a lot of schools don't. This is more than just OU.

If breaking away from the have nots in order to make things more equitable is the answer, I am all for that. In reality, that is probably the next step.

The problem is there are only about 15 "haves" in the nation.

 

[bocabull]

yes it does .. OU athletic dept .. pays OU the true cost of tuition .. be it in state or out of state ..

That is simply a journal entry from 1 department to the other. There is very little variable cost of providing the education. Food & housing costs real money. Sitting in on existing classes does not.

 

[Section31]

That is simply a journal entry from 1 department to the other. There is very little variable cost of providing the education. Food & housing costs real money. Sitting in on existing classes does not.

You really should take a finance class.

 

[badger]

btw... have you all seen this? SBNation interviews an SEC "bag man" who pays recruits and players cash to keep them happy.

Link

 

[DenverSooner]

is college basketball & Shabazz Napier better off if he was allowed to borrow up to $50,000 against his certain professional earnings so he can go out to eat whenever he wants instead of being tied like a slave to the athletic cafeteria?

You are comparing a scholarship athlete to a slave?

Napier may have gone to bed hungry but I suspect it was entirely his fault. Perhaps he is exaggerating a bit.

 

[snydrosooner]

btw... have you all seen this? SBNation interviews an SEC "bag man" who pays recruits and players cash to keep them happy.

Link

Well, that is a good article. Well written and explained some of the process. The bag man made is sound as if it was expected to give money to the recruits. I cannot believe that every good recruit is asking for money. But I definitly could be wrong.

 

[badger]

I cannot believe that every good recruit is asking for money.

This line reminded me of something I read in NY Times a few years back.

The Delaware men’s track coach, Jim Fischer, added: “I’m somewhat amazed that the question of scholarship money always comes up, even when it’s an athlete I haven’t shown much interest in and who clearly isn’t a college-level player. When I meet with them, I sit there thinking, this parent will never even ask about money because their kid would have trouble making some high school teams. But you know what? They ask for money, too.”

Link if you're interested

I know it's not really related to the subject, but I am starting to appreciate our non-revenue athletes more as the revenue sport athletes become increasingly demanding publicly

 

[DenverSooner]

Since football & basketball are really apples & oranges in this discussion and non revenue sports are irrelevant here is the important question.

Why do you feel uniquely qualified to determine what is and isn't not relevant?

 

[bocabull]

Why do you feel uniquely qualified to determine what is and isn't not relevant?

When people don't have smart answers they ask dumb questions. You are the poster boy for this.

Obviously very few scholarship athletes in non revenue sports will ever earn a professional paycheck thus would never qualify for an advance on a salary that will never exist.

 

[Section31]

Why do you feel uniquely qualified to determine what is and isn't not relevant?

Let's see. Who brought more value to the university, Keilani Ricketts or the 4th string free safety? Who's market value is greater as it pertains to the athletic department?

These guys want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[Section31]

When people don't have smart answers they ask dumb questions. You are the poster boy for this.

Obviously very few scholarship athletes in non revenue sports will ever earn a professional paycheck thus would never qualify for an advance on a salary that will never exist.

Neither will the players in revenue producing sports. That's what we're trying to tell you.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is how you feel about the rich and the poor, right?

bam