Cheno-What happened?

cheno the ou fan was always quick to turn on his second favorite team" as soon as anyone dared to speak ill of his jayhawks. The pretense was so transparent, it was insulting to our intelligence.

I'll take one Grace, who's mostly reasonable and respectful and doesn't pretend he is what he isn't, over 100 chenos any day of the week.
 
Very well said. I have never seen any other schools' boards allow opponents fans to have the freedom that other schools fans have here. Most are pretty respectful and just enjoy good hoops talk. Others are flat out rude/disrespectful, and they come here to stir up trouble. OU fans purposely joined a SOONER board looking to discuss Sooner hoops. There are plenty of all sports/all teams boards around. This is OU Hoops, plain and simple.:OUbball-logo:

I certainly understand and respect your viewpoints, JMizzy. However, as a former Mod on another OU board, I liked the idea of rival fans joining in with the discussions. If they were trolls, they couldn't get banned fast enough. If they were decent, they were alloowed to voice their opinions.

The one thing the Mods were never going to do on that message board was act like the OSU Mods who banned OU fans whenever the mood fit them. I'm sorry if that's what some of our fans wanted to do, but we weren't going to stoop to their level and act like a bunch of whiney babies everytime one of their fans had an opinion we disagreed with.

Cheno was a regular on that board. Did he get on the Mods' nerves at times with his backhanded compliments toward OU? No doubt. However, the majority felt he brought a lot to that board and was a welcome poster. I didn't always agree with his viewpoints, but never mided hearing them. I guess I'm in the minority here who hope he decides to return at some point.
 
I certainly understand and respect your viewpoints, JMizzy. However, as a former Mod on another OU board, I liked the idea of rival fans joining in with the discussions. If they were trolls, they couldn't get banned fast enough. If they were decent, they were alloowed to voice their opinions.

The one thing the Mods were never going to do on that message board was act like the OSU Mods who banned OU fans whenever the mood fit them. I'm sorry if that's what some of our fans wanted to do, but we weren't going to stoop to their level and act like a bunch of whiney babies everytime one of their fans had an opinion we disagreed with.

Cheno was a regular on that board. Did he get on the Mods' nerves at times with his backhanded compliments toward OU? No doubt. However, the majority felt he brought a lot to that board and was a welcome poster. I didn't always agree with his viewpoints, but never mided hearing them. I guess I'm in the minority here who hope he decides to return at some point.

Please don't get me wrong, I totally agree with what you said. That is why I said MOST are good posters who just want to discuss. My main point was that Sooner fans are often harder on Sooners than they are visitors who aren't so respectful. I really don't care who posts here because my time spent is not that great daily, but it would be nice to see DISRESPECTFUL rival fans stopped in their tracks like we would be at their place.

Also, please don't take me serious when I raz pokes/whorns/etc. I mean it all in good, clean rivalry fun. Poke J/ Grace are both rival team posters that I actually have been friendly with for yrs. I'm not so shallow that I actually hate someone just because they like an opposing school, but I also enjoy feeding rivalry. I'm a Sooner 1st, so poking fun at os-who and the whorns is always in season for me.:D:D
 
I certainly understand and respect your viewpoints, JMizzy. However, as a former Mod on another OU board, I liked the idea of rival fans joining in with the discussions. If they were trolls, they couldn't get banned fast enough. If they were decent, they were alloowed to voice their opinions.

The one thing the Mods were never going to do on that message board was act like the OSU Mods who banned OU fans whenever the mood fit them. I'm sorry if that's what some of our fans wanted to do, but we weren't going to stoop to their level and act like a bunch of whiney babies everytime one of their fans had an opinion we disagreed with.

Cheno was a regular on that board. Did he get on the Mods' nerves at times with his backhanded compliments toward OU? No doubt. However, the majority felt he brought a lot to that board and was a welcome poster. I didn't always agree with his viewpoints, but never mided hearing them. I guess I'm in the minority here who hope he decides to return at some point.


Wayman, I agree with you but I think there's a distinction to be made between the typical rival fan you're referring to and Cheno. The latter pretended to be an OU fan, yet never missed an opportunity to slight our team and program. Regular rival fans don't do that. Further, typical rival fans don't start threads on a rivals board asking those fans to pay homage to his #1 team and his #1 team's players just because they're KU.

For instance, I get very tired of just hearing what OU fans think about a certain topic, so I often read and post on a variety of rival message boards. Sure, I often disagree with their views, but I don't pretend to be a fan of their school. I also don't post threads like "Sam Bradford is sooo awesome" and expect rival fans to agree, then become angry when they do not.

Furthermore, I know myself, BigTime, and others on here hate KU basketball as much as any sports program anywhere. So while I can tolerate respectful KU fans and their opinions, it really doesn't sit well with me when all I see is how much better KU is than OU from a so-called OU "fan".
 
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cheno the ou fan was always quick to turn on his second favorite team" as soon as anyone dared to speak ill of his jayhawks. The pretense was so transparent, it was insulting to our intelligence.

I'll take one Grace, who's mostly reasonable and respectful and doesn't pretend he is what he isn't, over 100 chenos any day of the week.

Agreed. Grace is one of the better posters on here. He knows the game, is objective and reasonable, and doesn't constantly attack posters who don't agree with his viewpoints.

I don't dislike cheno like some might, but it's not surprising why people were abrasive to him... He portrayed a condescending attitude at times.
 
Very well said. I have never seen any other schools' boards allow opponents fans to have the freedom that other schools fans have here. Most are pretty respectful and just enjoy good hoops talk. Others are flat out rude/disrespectful, and they come here to stir up trouble. OU fans purposely joined a SOONER board looking to discuss Sooner hoops. There are plenty of all sports/all teams boards around. This is OU Hoops, plain and simple.:OUbball-logo:

You've obviously never been to tigerboard. You want to see a board that gives opposing fans freedom, spend a few minutes there and see what you can get away with.
 
You've obviously never been to tigerboard. You want to see a board that gives opposing fans freedom, spend a few minutes there and see what you can get away with.

You are right, I have never been there, or to most opposing boards. Not enough time in my day....

Most of what I said about other boards is from 2nd hand knowledge that I get from hearing other Sooners' experiences.
 
Wayman, I agree with you but I think there's a distinction to be made between the typical rival fan you're referring to and Cheno. The latter pretended to be an OU fan, yet never missed an opportunity to slight our team and program. Regular rival fans don't do that. Further, typical rival fans don't start threads on a rivals board asking those fans to pay homage to his #1 team and his #1 team's players just because they're KU.

I agree with most of that. Cheno certainly got away with more than he should have. However, he also gave his share of props to OU as well. I just think because he was a Kansas fan that some posters wouldn't focus as much on that.

For example, let's say I didn't like Person A. Person B comes up to me and tells me 50 things Person A said about me. 49 of them were either neutral or positive, and one was negative. Since I don't like him, what is going through my mind? Same as everyone else in a similar situation - focus on that one bad thing. My point is, Cheno had a lot of good to say as well, but some wouldn't acknowledge those things.


Also, please don't take me serious when I raz pokes/whorns/etc. I mean it all in good, clean rivalry fun. Poke J/ Grace are both rival team posters that I actually have been friendly with for yrs. I'm not so shallow that I actually hate someone just because they like an opposing school, but I also enjoy feeding rivalry. I'm a Sooner 1st, so poking fun at os-who and the whorns is always in season for me.:D:D

It's all good, JMizzy. You were always on the short list of everyone's favorite posters on that other board, as I'm sure you are here.
 
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My point is, Cheno had a lot of good to say as well, but some wouldn't acknowledge those things.

Not sure much of the positive was sincere, WF. I saw him turn on OU too often. You don't turn that way on a team you genuinely respect and root for.

I don't know why his pretense of being an OU supporter seemed to him the way to go. Plenty of other opposing fans are respected here without that kind of patronizing behavior.
 
Overzealous mods are really really bad for business.

OUInsider mods crashed and burned many, and now they haven't recovered too well.
 
OU is not relevant enough for the Chendog anymore. Simple as that...

I bet he's a closet whorn fan now on shaggybevo...

Yep. He no longers views OU as KU's biggest challenger so he does not spend his time reading everything on this board and taking shots at OU under the pretense of being an OU fan. The guy was a a fraud.
 
Yep. He no longers views OU as KU's biggest challenger so he does not spend his time reading everything on this board and taking shots at OU under the pretense of being an OU fan. The guy was a a fraud.

Whatever. Everybody knew cheno was a KU-first guy. Most of the shots he took at OU were provoked, b/c some of our fans just couldn't stand having somebody from "outside of OU" on the board on a regular basis.
 
Whatever. Everybody knew cheno was a KU-first guy. Most of the shots he took at OU were provoked, b/c some of our fans just couldn't stand having somebody from "outside of OU" on the board on a regular basis.

Bingo.
 
Whatever. Everybody knew cheno was a KU-first guy. Most of the shots he took at OU were provoked, b/c some of our fans just couldn't stand having somebody from "outside of OU" on the board on a regular basis.

Imagine you're a fan of, say, both the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox, with your primary loyalty being to the Yankees. You're hanging out on a Sox board, and another poster says something negative about your Yanks and their practice of spending lavishly to bring in virtually any player they wish to get.

You'd be well within your rights to defend the Yanks, of course, but if you were truly a Boston fan, too, would you also resort to trashing the Sox?

No, you might try to explain that the Sox have a pretty big budget of their own and that both teams came by their fortunes in honest fashion and are playing by the rules as they stand today. But you'd not trash the Sox -- after all, they're your second favorite team. If you had to find any team to trash, you'd pick a third team, one to which you felt no loyalty.

But that assumes your interest in the Sox is genuine and not a pretense. If it is indeed bogus, you'd get your back up when the Yanks were defamed and trash the Sox in response.

Which, on many an occasion, is exactly what Cheno did.

I learned long ago that there's a certain species of internet poster who has a very sly and subtle way of turning seemingly unrelated conversations until they're about him. And these guys, to a man (or woman), will always profess full innocence and claim victimhood. They're well intentioned, they insist, and just want to talk sports/movies/music/whatever. And yet, thread after thread they're involved in turns contentious, with these posters at the center of the storm. And at first, they do seem innocent enough. But after months and even years of the same pattern repeating, over and over, one starts to realize what one is dealing with.

Some of us realized that about cheno quite literally years ago. But there are always posters who rush to defend the poor, defenseless, good-hearted, well-intentioned little fellow who just can't avoid coming under attack from all the meanies out there.

But no defense is called for. That kind of poster thrives on the attention, even when -- perhaps especially when -- it's negative attention.

I don't know why cheno left, but I don't for one moment miss the cheno-centric threads that have died off since his departure. I don't miss the drama that inavariably arises around that kind of poster. And, in any case, I don't doubt for a moment that he'll be back when the Sooners are winning again.
 
I welcome anyone who can have a solid X's and O's basketball conversation regardless of their affiliation. Now if they can't stand a little ribbing once in a while about their respective school, then that's on them and should be expected outside their home site. Cheno knows bball and I respect that. To me it isn't a black or white scenario, there are plenty of posters on here who take an offense that a KU poster is regularly on here, so it goes both ways. Can also understand the hate toward KU, I mean, OU has (in general) been playing second fiddle to the Hawks for a long long time.
 
The KU board on Scout (phog. net) is brutal to opposing fans. But what is even crazier, they are almost or maybe even more brutal to each other. I guess his choices are limited.
 
For the life of me, I can't fathom why anyone would care, one way or the other, that Cheno is no longer posting here. But in any case, several of you have made some very good points in this thread. Some of the best came from:

• jmizzy, who pointed out that OU fans have often been blasted on this site for starting threads bashing OSU and/or KU. Really! Isn't this an OU board? Why shouldn't we be able to express our disdain for those programs, and for the arrogant UT program and fans?

• OUhoops 11 (and others) for pointing out that Cheno's professed fondness for OU has phony written all over it.

• stoops4pres, for recognizing the jayhawk fan's condescending attitude.

• DenverSooner, for matter-of-factly (and in my opinion, correctly) calling the guy a fraud.

• And, last-but-not-least, skyvue's prediction that we've certainly not seen the last of Cheno.

I'd like to add that I don't dislike Cheno. As far as I'm concerned, he – and fans of other Big XII programs – are welcome to post here as often as they like. But just as seniorsooner pointed out, this is an OU board first and foremost. Fans of other schools should feel welcome to join in our discussions, but they need to behave themselves and be respectfull of the school/team/fans that are allowing them drop by for a visit.
 
For the life of me, I can't fathom why anyone would care, one way or the other, that Cheno is no longer posting here.... I'd like to add that I don't dislike Cheno. As far as I'm concerned, he – and fans of other Big XII programs – are welcome to post here as often as they like. But just as seniorsooner pointed out, this is an OU board first and foremost. Fans of other schools should feel welcome to join in our discussions, but they need to behave themselves and be respectfull of the school/team/fans that are allowing them drop by for a visit.

Yahtzee!
 
Nobody is losing any sleep that Cheno isn't around anymore... but, I would say that this board is less than cordial to fans from around the league.

I don't care what goes on at other forums, as that should not be the standard for how people are received here. If they are here to talk basketball, I don't give a crap what school they pull for. They shouldnt have a short leash, they dont have to come here and pay homage just because this site is a meeting place for OU fans, they shouldnt have to put up with people censoring what they post and questioning their agendas, etc. You say that you like them to post here, but the second "they" post something someone doesnt like they are told to watch it, that this is an OU board, that they should go to their own board, etc.

They are just guys wanting to talk basketball with other good basketball fans, which this board has. Some of you are so childish and petty that you actually care about what team they like. Why does it matter? Who cares?
 
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