Close Games / Meaningful Games

[pnkranger]

Under Lon Kruger:

Games decided by 5 points or less: 14-15 (0-4 this season and 0-fer our last 6)
Overtime Games: 0-7
Post-season games: 0-5

Dating back to last season's loss @Iowa State, we are 1-12 in games decided by 8 points or less.

Do we lack a player with a killer instinct in our program?

 

[opsooner]

Under Lon Kruger:

Games decided by 5 points or less: 14-15 (0-4 this season and 0-fer our last 6)
Overtime Games: 0-7
Post-season games: 0-5

Dating back to last season's loss @Iowa State, we are 1-12 in games decided by 8 points or less.

Do we lack a player with a killer instinct in our program?

I think there is some truth to that and I also think we lack the inside presence that is needed to get us better looks. Our half court offense often gets into trouble anyway and especially at the end of halves and games.

 

[Laxtothemax12]

Where's david Godbold when you need him?

 

[pnkranger]

Where's david Godbold when you need him?

Ha! And Austin Johnson. We need someone who WANTS to take the big shot.

 

[Laxtothemax12]

Ha! And Austin Johnson. We need someone who WANTS to take the big shot.

Remember crockers and-1 three against Baylor in OT? Miss those type of shots, and Godbolds 30 footer at TTU. We just don't have someone who hits those this year. If we had a guy like Shabazz Napier we would be a final four contender IMO

 

[ocugolfsooner]

This team panics when it's crunch time. Buddy is supposed to be the go to guy but frankly he's terrible in that role. Plays out of control and forces terrible shots. Can't understand why Kruger allows such poor shot selection and decision making to continue in these close games.

 

[bocabull]

Texas Tech has beat Iowa State & Kansas State in Lubbock. Surely we won't collapse like we have the past two seasons down the stretch. But if we play like we did tonight we could lose every game except TCU.

 

[ocugolfsooner]

Texas Tech has beat Iowa State & Kansas State in Lubbock. Surely we won't collapse like we have the past two seasons down the stretch. But if we play like we did tonight we could lose every game except TCU.

You must be joking. This team is fine. That game tonight is what is wrong with college basketball. Horrific officiating, free throw contest. Unwatchable. This team will win the next 3 and then hopefully get the Jayhawks in Norman.

 

[Zimwillett]

You must be joking. This team is fine. That game tonight is what is wrong with college basketball. Horrific officiating, free throw contest. Unwatchable. This team will win the next 3 and then hopefully get the Jayhawks in Norman.

Yep. It's funny how everyone universally agreed that OUs game with ISU was hugely entertaining. Cycle forward less than a week and the refs let this slugfest happen. Comlpetely unwatchable if you're not an OU or kstate fan. Until the officials clean this crap up ratings and attendance will continue dropping.

 

[bocabull]

1-11 from 3 in the 1st half. 7-24 in the second half. We gave up 14 offensive boards, including the one that allowed their game winning 3. It was unwatchable because we looked terrible.

Just remember TTU came into Norman and beat us last year out of the blue. I hope they prove me wrong and of course we're not going to lose them all but TCU, but unfortunately I bet our worst loss is still ahead of us.

 

[sdcloud9]

1-11 from 3 in the 1st half. 7-24 in the second half. We gave up 14 offensive boards, including the one that allowed their game winning 3. It was unwatchable because we looked terrible.

Just remember TTU came into Norman and beat us last year out of the blue. I hope they prove me wrong and of course we're not going to lose them all but TCU, but unfortunately I bet our worst loss is still ahead of us.

OU played poorly without a doubt, they usually bounce back pretty well. We'll see Tuesday.

 

[garyeb2]

Under Lon Kruger:

Games decided by 5 points or less: 14-15 (0-4 this season and 0-fer our last 6)
Overtime Games: 0-7
Post-season games: 0-5

Dating back to last season's loss @Iowa State, we are 1-12 in games decided by 8 points or less.

Do we lack a player with a killer instinct in our program?

Some of you guys need to get off the fence. I would think one would either be a Ken Pom disciple or not.

Mr. Pomeroy was interviewed on a local radio station day before yesterday. He came across as bright, knowledgeable, and articulate. He was asked the specific question about OU's string of close losses in reguard to how his luck factor was computed.

He explained that what happens in the last 2/3 minutes of close games isn't much more than a random outcome. He went on to add that even the complete 18 game Big 12 schedule is so impacted by randomness that it is unlikely that the final standings are an accurate indicator of which teams are actually better than others.

He is right about that. Trying to draw conclusions from outcomes that are highly impacted by randomness is wrong.

 

[Speedy17]

These close games are where I miss the Kelvin Sampson toughness - he lived off of them.

 

[MercedeSooner]

Nobody to run the ball through to create their own shot and we lack the toughness on D get that last rebound/stop. It's almost like Groundhog Day in a lot of these games where we give up some critical rebound. Would also be curious what our FG% is in the last 2 minutes of these close games because I would guess it's definitely under 30%.

You can call it random if you want but if you can't make shots or get defensive rebounds in tough spots you're not gonna win close games.

 

[WTSooner]

Nobody to run the ball through to create their own shot and we lack the toughness on D get that last rebound/stop. It's almost like Groundhog Day in a lot of these games where we give up some critical rebound. Would also be curious what our FG% is in the last 2 minutes of these close games because I would guess it's definitely under 30%.

You can call it random if you want but if you can't make shots or get defensive rebounds in tough spots you're not gonna win close games.

Yep. Nothing random about it at all. The things needed to win games like that, happen to be some of our biggest weaknesses. It is what it is.

 

[jerry]

Nobody to run the ball through to create their own shot and we lack the toughness on D get that last rebound/stop. It's almost like Groundhog Day in a lot of these games where we give up some critical rebound. Would also be curious what our FG% is in the last 2 minutes of these close games because I would guess it's definitely under 30%.

You can call it random if you want but if you can't make shots or get defensive rebounds in tough spots you're not gonna win close games.

Good post! It is what it is right now??

 

[bocabull]

Some of you guys need to get off the fence. I would think one would either be a Ken Pom disciple or not.

Mr. Pomeroy was interviewed on a local radio station day before yesterday. He came across as bright, knowledgeable, and articulate. He was asked the specific question about OU's string of close losses in reguard to how his luck factor was computed.

He explained that what happens in the last 2/3 minutes of close games isn't much more than a random outcome. He went on to add that even the complete 18 game Big 12 schedule is so impacted by randomness that it is unlikely that the final standings are an accurate indicator of which teams are actually better than others.

He is right about that. Trying to draw conclusions from outcomes that are highly impacted by randomness is wrong.

Quite possibly the silliest thing you will ever hear. The intensity level, aggressiveness and strategic coaching maneuvers of basketball increase dramatically in crunch time. The cream rises to the top. The more important the game the more pronounced this effect is. According to Pomeroy Michael Jordan & Kobe late game heroics are random. lol

 

[inoref]

Not handling close games will be their downfall come March. I still believe the sweet 16 is possible, if all the pieces fall into place.

 

[sdcloud9]

Some of you guys need to get off the fence. I would think one would either be a Ken Pom disciple or not.

Mr. Pomeroy was interviewed on a local radio station day before yesterday. He came across as bright, knowledgeable, and articulate. He was asked the specific question about OU's string of close losses in reguard to how his luck factor was computed.

He explained that what happens in the last 2/3 minutes of close games isn't much more than a random outcome. He went on to add that even the complete 18 game Big 12 schedule is so impacted by randomness that it is unlikely that the final standings are an accurate indicator of which teams are actually better than others.

He is right about that. Trying to draw conclusions from outcomes that are highly impacted by randomness is wrong.

I love your posts Gary but I disagree.

Playing well late in games is about toughness and discipline, not just random chance.

The reason that Woodard has taken a lot of last second shots over his career is because OU's best options can't get open. That is not random chance, that is teams defending better than OU is executing.

Teams will live with Woodard beating them and not Hield, Spangler, Thomas, etc.

That's what I'm seeing.

 

[garyeb2]

Quite possibly the silliest thing you will ever hear. The intensity level, aggressiveness and strategic coaching maneuvers of basketball increase dramatically in crunch time. The cream rises to the top. The more important the game the more pronounced this effect is. According to Pomeroy Michael Jordan & Kobe late game heroics are random. lol

Randomness has an impact on the outcome of close games. I don't know to what degree. Ken Pom doesn't know to what degree. 40 watt bulbs like yourself don't know to what degree. But, it is there.

Because of that, judgments and conclusions based on those outcomes are suspect at best and totally inaccurate at worst.