Damnit TCU!
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When you look at those two stats, you have to conclude that let that game slip away.
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That's a typical free-throw display by TCU. Overall, they're shooting an abysmal 61% as a team, which is by-far the worst in the league.
The next closest is Texas Tech at 65%.
They've been even worse in conference play at 58%, again (by far) the worst in the league.
There's no question that their free-throw shooting has already cost them two big wins (WVU and KU) and will probably cost them a few more before the year ends.
The next closest is Texas Tech at 65%.
They've been even worse in conference play at 58%, again (by far) the worst in the league.
There's no question that their free-throw shooting has already cost them two big wins (WVU and KU) and will probably cost them a few more before the year ends.
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Lets just hope they don't fix that problem against OU or OSU.
The conference has parity, but not much talent. Kansas has such superior talent their inexperience, etc is not enough for them to lose.
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This is absurd. The conference dominated non conference play. If the conference has such bad talent it would not have dominated non conference play. Your standards are just silly. You want to cherry pick the best teams in the country, form a super conference and then say the Big XII doesn't measure up.
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How many NBA players are in the Big 12 right now? I can't even really think of any 1st round pick players.
The Big XII may not have as many future NBA'ers as some other leagues (not sure if that's true or not), but the quality of the teams in this league are second to none.
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really? you don't follow basketball much then do you?
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I can think of 3 right off the top of my head: Miles Turner, Kelly Oubre, Cliff Alexander.
Absurd is anybody clueless enough to claim the Big XII is better than the ACC. That's damn laughable.
Kansas win over Utah is the only elite win for the entire conference in non conference. Then you drop down to Iowa State beating Arkansas and OU beating Butler. There are more bad losses than quality wins overall.
The conference is fun to watch because the teams are equal. But let's not confuse parity with strength. The talent is very mediocre.
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This.
Good post. A touch of realism and truth.
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I bet Miles Turner would be a top 10 pick. He's a young Lamarcus Aldridge: 6'11" and athletic. I remember when DeAndre Jordan came out of A&M after his freshman year I thought it was crazy. Turner might sit the bench for a couple of years while he develops, but he will be good.
I would never had guessed Anthony Davis out of Kentucky would be a top 5 player in the NBA in 3 years, but he is. 21 years old and averaging over 24 points and 10 boards a game.
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http://www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft
This mock has those 3 + Isiah Taylor and Buddy all in the first round.
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Well let's just wait and see.
KU is sitting at 1-1 against the other (IMO) legit conference title contenders, beating OU at home and losing to ISU on the road.
They still have to play WVU and ISU at home, and on the road against WVU and OU.
Those are the 4 games that will likely determine if KU repeats.
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I don't know how accurate this source is but it lists 7 international players and another 7 or so are from smaller schools like Wisconsin Green Bay, VCU, Rhode Island, Georgia State, St. Johns, UNLV etc. (and one from Uconn). That leaves 46 from the power five conferences in the US. 11of those are from the Big XII. Just over 23.9% (call it 24%) or more than 1/5th of the NBA draft of US players is projected by that source to be from the Big XII.
That is actually 4% more than the Big XII should have if talent is dispersed evenly among the power five conferences. Beyond that, you cannot judge overall talent based on 46 players.
With respect to the ACC it lists 7 guys to be drafted. That is 14.8% (call it 15%) and says the ACC is underrepresented at the top. Furthermore there are 15 teams in the ACC for basketball. Therefore, the ACC should have 50% more NBA players if talent is equally dispersed while in reality it has 50% less talent than the Big XII based on this source.
It also lists 10 guys from the SEC to be drafted (granted most play for Kentucky). The SEC is widely regarded as a weak conference in terms of overall talent yet they have more projected draft picks than the ACC even though the ACC has one additional team.
It also lists 3 Big XII players in the lottery compared to 2 ACC players. So the Big XII is over represented in the lottery and in the entire draft compared to the ACC based on that source. It is even worse when you consider 15 teams compared to 10.
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It's like you're in a competition with yourself to make the most stupid comment. Each time you comment, you eclipse your previous record. I'm convinced you're really only trying to get attention by making ridiculous statements.
Every objective measure has the Big 12 as the toughest conference. Every "expert " who follows the game agrees. And yet, there you are, on your island arguing for any other conference (every other conference?) as being better than the Big 12.
The ACC is very good at the top but very weak after the top 4. The notion that the Big 12 has no good teams is so far beyond ridiculous it's barely worth mentioning. The conference is fun to watch because it's really strong. A lot of conferences are competitive. No other conference has anywhere near the strength of the Big 12.
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