Danny Manning named head coach at TU

thebigabd said:
http://www.tulsahurricane.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/032912aaa.html

Pretty impressive hire by TU, I would say. 9 year assistant to Bill Self, great recruiter, etc. TU administration and fans want to bring Bill Self style hoops back, and thats what they are gonna get.
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We'll see about Manning. I have a friend in Kansas who has a son who is a good young basketball player. He's been to the KU camps repeatedly and the dad has been around Manning quite a bit. Based on what he has said regarding his social skills, I don't know about this hire.

I thought Terry Evans would have been a better hire. This guy has been a head guy and can coach. Manning has been at a great place coaching under an OK coach. I wonder how much of the actual coaching maps back to Manning?

I could be wrong as the day is long so I have no vested interest in this one way or the other. I will watch with great curiosity to see how well Manning does.
 
for the record, as a TU fan, I wanted Terry Evans.
 
TU and Evans seemed like a perfect fit, but Manning does have more name recognition.
 
KCRuf/Nek said:
Unfortunately the name only gets you in the door. Not being able to coach gets you out it.
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Agreed, but nobody knows whether Manning can coach or not. I guess I was feeling bad for a guy like Evans who has shown that he can successfully lead a small college program in Oklahoma, gets really close to moving up to a D-1 job, and he doesn't get an opportunity because a guy with no head coaching experience at all makes a bigger splash.
 
MichSooner said:
We'll see about Manning. I have a friend in Kansas who has a son who is a good young basketball player. He's been to the KU camps repeatedly and the dad has been around Manning quite a bit. Based on what he has said regarding his social skills, I don't know about this hire.

I thought Terry Evans would have been a better hire. This guy has been a head guy and can coach. Manning has been at a great place coaching under an OK coach. I wonder how much of the actual coaching maps back to Manning?

I could be wrong as the day is long so I have no vested interest in this one way or the other. I will watch with great curiosity to see how well Manning does.
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This is kind of how I feel. I've heard that Manning isn't a very good recruiter, and that his knees limit him at times (ie, health reasons). I also worry about how he'll do without the KU name. It's easy to recruit to KU, and it's easy to coach up kids that are already super talented. What happens when the big men he is coaching up aren't as skilled as the top 3 big men at KU at any given time?

And I hope this isn't the case, but I worry that when TU's search committee flew to Kansas to ask Bill Self for his opinions on what they should be looking for, and Bill said that Manning would be a good choice.....that he kind of forced their hand. Meaning, they'd look pretty rude if they flew up there to ask his opinion, then didn't hire his guy, but hired somebody that in a lot of ways was similar (save the HC experience), in Evans.

Guess we'll find out.
 
Mr.B!!! said:
TU and Evans seemed like a perfect fit, but Manning does have more name recognition.
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My thoughts exactly.

The last time TU's ticket sales were this low was before Nolan Richardson was hired. The apathy surrounding the program is high, and whether its fair or not Manning brought more clout than the other candidates. We'll see soon enough if this works.
 
Mr.B!!! said:
Agreed, but nobody knows whether Manning can coach or not. I guess I was feeling bad for a guy like Evans who has shown that he can successfully lead a small college program in Oklahoma, gets really close to moving up to a D-1 job, and he doesn't get an opportunity because a guy with no head coaching experience at all makes a bigger splash.
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I know what you're saying. I hadn't heard much around here about him being a candidate for any HC job. Surprised me. hopefully Evans will get a job elsewhere. sometimes it works out for the better.
 
So which is better for Evans, remaining a HC at a school like OCU, or trying to get an assistants job at a decent-sized D1 school?

And by better, I mean better for him to get a shot at a legit D1 HC coaching.
 
Manning has named one of his assistants, former KU player and Director of Basketball Operations Brett Ballard will join TU as well. Ballard has spent the past two years as the head coach of Baker University in Baldwin City, KS. Probably not the initial sexy hire you TU loyalists would like, but I have met Brett and watched Baker play in the past....he knows his stuff.

Obviously I am a bit biased because I have a friend on staff at Baker, but he speaks very highly of Ballard and their success over the past two years in comparison to their recent history (and the school is never that good). They made the national tournament in only his second year.
 
campbest said:
Manning has named one of his assistants, former KU player and Director of Basketball Operations Brett Ballard will join TU as well. Ballard has spent the past two years as the head coach of Baker University in Baldwin City, KS. Probably not the initial sexy hire you TU loyalists would like, but I have met Brett and watched Baker play in the past....he knows his stuff.

Obviously I am a bit biased because I have a friend on staff at Baker, but he speaks very highly of Ballard and their success over the past two years in comparison to their recent history (and the school is never that good). They made the national tournament in only his second year.
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Sounds like a solid addition. I'd like to see TU have some success, just wish TE had gotten the job [I'm a homer].

I wonder if Henson is considered at KSU?
 
campbest said:
Manning has named one of his assistants, former KU player and Director of Basketball Operations Brett Ballard will join TU as well. Ballard has spent the past two years as the head coach of Baker University in Baldwin City, KS. Probably not the initial sexy hire you TU loyalists would like, but I have met Brett and watched Baker play in the past....he knows his stuff.

Obviously I am a bit biased because I have a friend on staff at Baker, but he speaks very highly of Ballard and their success over the past two years in comparison to their recent history (and the school is never that good). They made the national tournament in only his second year.
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Ballard, for the casual fan, is a who? type of hire but it will turn out to be a good one I believe. The guy from what I understand is good young coach. I get the questions regarding Manning and his demeanor to be the HC, but what I don't get is the questions on his ability to coach players. He is largely credited for KU's big mens' successes. I'm pretty sure most have made it to the NBA. Now being a great big man vs a HC we will see. His staff will be important and I think he has a good one in Ballard.

My vote though would have been for Jankovich. If he ends up KSU's next coach and does well Tulsa may be kicking themselves.
 
Tulsa will get a huge boost on the national scene from this hire. If they hire Evans or Jankovich it barely gets mentioned on Sportscenter, if at all. With KU in the Final Four, Manning and TU will be brought up all weekend on TV and a school like TU normally can't get that kind of publicity. It'll help them get the attention of a bunch of recruits who prior to this wouldn't have given them the time of day. Will it make them a better program down the road? No one knows for sure, but this sure gives them a great jump start especially if he can fill out his staff with good hires.
 
5hrenergy said:
Ballard, for the casual fan, is a who? type of hire but it will turn out to be a good one I believe. The guy from what I understand is good young coach. I get the questions regarding Manning and his demeanor to be the HC, but what I don't get is the questions on his ability to coach players. He is largely credited for KU's big mens' successes. I'm pretty sure most have made it to the NBA. Now being a great big man vs a HC we will see. His staff will be important and I think he has a good one in Ballard.

My vote though would have been for Jankovich. If he ends up KSU's next coach and does well Tulsa may be kicking themselves.
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Like I said, I am a huge Brett Ballard fan, he is from a strong coaching tree and also has experience running a program. Personally, would like to see Manning bring on Evans as an assistant, because if Manning has success you know Evans would be next in line. However, I understand Evans' reluctance, if you're the first runner up, why would you want to just join the winner's staff?
 
Any chance Wright will ask out of his LOI with this hire??? I would think he would see Manning as a guy who could coach bigs and prolly wouldnt leave.
 
Bad hire - Evans has proven he can run a program and recruit and has a style - done the bench thing. Manning is not a great recruiter although he has the advantage of being at one of the elite programs that "PICKS" players like OU does in Football. Manning has never coached a game himself Ever and sits on his bumm during all the KU games. Think it was a DUMB hire - and they had the best option 10 miles across town and screwed that one up. Scott Sutton would have been perfect - TOO EASY!!!
 
Scott Sutton would have been an awful pick. What does he bring to the table that Woj didn't? That Phillips didn't? Nothing. He is boring. Dull. And from what I've seen, average in every sense of the word.

I have no idea if Manning will work out or not. I don't know. But he sold TU on something. Time will tell.
 
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