Dead Last in SEC Attendance

[WTSooner]

Ou has like a 25 year sellout streak for football.

It's fake. Some big donor has an agreement with OU to buy the unsold tickets the day before the game. Been like that for years.

I've had season tickets since the 1999 season. I'm telling you, the demand the last decade hasn't been that high.

 

[cbertus6]

Vulnerables is closer to John Blake than he is to Gary Gibbs. He probably should have been fired after going 6-7 with one of the easiest schedules in school history in year 1. Vulnerables has had 2 pathetic schedules and still couldn’t come close to meeting expectations. At least Moser has the excuse of having been in the hardest conference every year.

BV walked into a situation with literally no QBs on the roster and a horrible defense. In his first year, the QB he did get got hurt which cost him a couple of games. He probably could've done better but it was a tough situation. In year 2, he won 10 games. The one problem I have with BV is the handling of the offense post-Lebby. If he has corrected that ship with the Arbuckle hire, then I'm good with him. If the offense doesn't perform this year, I'd be fine with moving on.

 

[WichitaSooner]

BV walked into a situation with literally no QBs on the roster and a horrible defense. In his first year, the QB he did get got hurt which cost him a couple of games. He probably could've done better but it was a tough situation. In year 2, he won 10 games. The one problem I have with BV is the handling of the offense post-Lebby. If he has corrected that ship with the Arbuckle hire, then I'm good with him. If the offense doesn't perform this year, I'd be fine with moving on.

Cost us a couple games? You think we were beating Texas lol? And TCU was already boat racing us when Gabriel got hurt.

 

[IndySooner]

BV walked into a situation with literally no QBs on the roster and a horrible defense. In his first year, the QB he did get got hurt which cost him a couple of games. He probably could've done better but it was a tough situation. In year 2, he won 10 games. The one problem I have with BV is the handling of the offense post-Lebby. If he has corrected that ship with the Arbuckle hire, then I'm good with him. If the offense doesn't perform this year, I'd be fine with moving on.

I’m with you. And the defense was so bad - and our NIL situation broken - that he couldn’t address offensive and defensive needs at the same time. This is the first year we really see what both coming together looks like. If it’s still really bad, I’m okay moving on. I think it will be much better, though.

 

[TINY]

BV walked into a situation with literally no QBs on the roster and a horrible defense. In his first year, the QB he did get got hurt which cost him a couple of games. He probably could've done better but it was a tough situation. In year 2, he won 10 games. The one problem I have with BV is the handling of the offense post-Lebby. If he has corrected that ship with the Arbuckle hire, then I'm good with him. If the offense doesn't perform this year, I'd be fine with moving on.

The situation he walked into was far better than everyone else on his schedule except Texas. And he lost 6 games.

 

[cbertus6]

Cost us a couple games? You think we were beating Texas lol? And TCU was already boat racing us when Gabriel got hurt.

You aren't wrong regarding the TCU game. But the injury absolutely eliminated any shot we had to compete with Texas, and that's a game where anything can happen as all of us know. Not counting on a win there, moreso saying that it took any shot we had away in that game. My point in general was when you don't have a QB or a defense, it is incredibly tough to win in college football and OU had neither when BV got here. I'm willing to allow him this year to prove that he's figured it out

 

[cbertus6]

The situation he walked into was far better than everyone else on his schedule except Texas. And he lost 6 games.

OU's defense finished sixth in the conference in points and yards allowed per game the year before, and had no returning players at QB. Mind you other teams had Duggan, Ewers, Jalon Daniels, Shough, and Marinez returning. Are those guys great? No. Are they guys I'd have taken in a heartbeat given what our QB situation looked like the second BV signed his deal? Yes.

 

[WTSooner]

I think some of you are going to look bad after the 2025 football season. Tough schedule this year, but I think we're 8-4 at worst, then really start excelling the year after that.

But OU fans are going to have to get used to not going 11-1 every year. Parity in general. SEC. NIL. There are going to be years we are pretty good and still lose 3-4 games.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I think some of you are going to look bad after the 2025 football season. Tough schedule this year, but I think we're 8-4 at worst, then really start excelling the year after that.

But OU fans are going to have to get used to not going 11-1 every year. Parity in general. SEC. NIL. There are going to be years we are pretty good and still lose 3-4 games.

I hope you are right but Brent has shown just as many warts as Moser had through three seasons. I just don't think the man is a good head coach, and now we have his worst recruiting class (portal and high school combined) coming in.

 

[TINY]

OU's defense finished sixth in the conference in points and yards allowed per game the year before, and had no returning players at QB. Mind you other teams had Duggan, Ewers, Jalon Daniels, Shough, and Marinez returning. Are those guys great? No. Are they guys I'd have taken in a heartbeat given what our QB situation looked like the second BV signed his deal? Yes.

Can I play a card from the fire moser
Playbook? “Why couldn’t bv retain Caleb Williams? Spencer rattler?” “They were there when BV arrived.”

 

[BoulderSooner]

Football isn't as good as you might think.

Rarely sell out any game other than the really big ones

they literally sell out every game

 

[BoulderSooner]

It's fake. Some big donor has an agreement with OU to buy the unsold tickets the day before the game. Been like that for years.

I've had season tickets since the 1999 season. I'm telling you, the demand the last decade hasn't been that high.

which is how every long sell out streak exists ... including nebraska ..

 

[snydrosooner]

As a basketball season ticket holder, I will just point out that the weekday 6 and 7 time slot was attended decently. The 8 and 9 starts not so much. TV rules. But that does play in some. Lack of confidence in team is another and students overflowing one game and less then 100 the next also is unacceptable.

 

[snydrosooner]

they literally sell out every game

It's fake. Some big donor has an agreement with OU to buy the unsold tickets the day before the game. Been like that for years.

I've had season tickets since the 1999 season. I'm telling you, the demand the last decade hasn't been that high.

Most thunder games are 100 sell outs, but if you sit in loud city many open seats. Resellers have become issue with determining sell outs.

 

[WTSooner]

which is how every long sell out streak exists ... including nebraska ..

So?

I'm not talking about selling games out, I'm talking about real demand. It's lower than most anyone would think. That was my point and it's 100% true.

 

[SoonerDutch]

So?

I'm not talking about selling games out, I'm talking about real demand. It's lower than most anyone would think. That was my point and it's 100% true.

I’d agree the last decade has been tough but unlike basketball, I think it’s much more matchup driven and with the SEC saw much more enthusiasm (anecdotal - friends much more interested in going and resale much higher) for last season’s slate versus the Big 12 years.

Will it continue? Not sure if OU remains awful (historically bad on offense) and general trends will always favor TV IMO but also think it will likely pick-up.

 

[WTSooner]

I’d agree the last decade has been tough but unlike basketball, I think it’s much more matchup driven and with the SEC saw much more enthusiasm (anecdotal - friends much more interested in going and resale much higher) for last season’s slate versus the Big 12 years.

Will it continue? Not sure if OU remains awful (historically bad on offense) and general trends will always favor TV IMO but also think it will likely pick-up.

Fair, but my main point was that even in football, our fans/crowds don't stack up to the best in the SEC.

Every once in a while they do. They showed up for the Bama game this year. We all know about TT in 2008. The crowd tried against ND and tOSU, though the team made it difficult for the fans to stay engaged. But in the SEC, at the top of the SEC, those schools have fans that show up for most games like that. I'm not bashing the OU fans, I'm one of them, but it's not the same environment. SEC schedule will help, but that's just not how our fan base is.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Fair, but my main point was that even in football, our fans/crowds don't stack up to the best in the SEC.

Every once in a while they do. They showed up for the Bama game this year. We all know about TT in 2008. The crowd tried against ND and tOSU, though the team made it difficult for the fans to stay engaged. But in the SEC, at the top of the SEC, those schools have fans that show up for most games like that. I'm not bashing the OU fans, I'm one of them, but it's not the same environment. SEC schedule will help, but that's just not how our fan base is.

except they do ..

bama and georgia have the same issues .. florida has much worse attendance issues ..


now you want to tell me that OU fans suck in other sports (other then softball currently) i am on board with that

 

[IndySooner]

Fair, but my main point was that even in football, our fans/crowds don't stack up to the best in the SEC.

Every once in a while they do. They showed up for the Bama game this year. We all know about TT in 2008. The crowd tried against ND and tOSU, though the team made it difficult for the fans to stay engaged. But in the SEC, at the top of the SEC, those schools have fans that show up for most games like that. I'm not bashing the OU fans, I'm one of them, but it's not the same environment. SEC schedule will help, but that's just not how our fan base is.

We don’t have a raucous fan base. It’s almost as if being a fanatic is below our fan base.

And I agree with you about demand steadily declining. I would have kept my football tickets when we moved from Oklahoma had I thought I could even come close to breaking even. But in the last few years I had those tickets, if I couldn’t make a game I had to give them away.

 

[sooner333]

Maybe this will be a wake up call. For too long we’ve relied on selling tickets to donors and corporations who keep hitting renew and not going or giving away tickets.

They really need to market to new fans—people in Norman and south metro. They did a good job marketing the women’s game for the NCAA Tournament and got a lot of people there at 3 pm on a Monday. If they had started their effort for Saturday a little earlier they may have packed it out. They had to give away some tickets, promote those tickets, and send a mass email to Norman Schools with a discount, but I think it worked pretty well. They need to have a marketing blitz for the men’s games.