Dead Last in SEC Attendance

Maybe this will be a wake up call. For too long we’ve relied on selling tickets to donors and corporations who keep hitting renew and not going or giving away tickets.

They really need to market to new fans—people in Norman and south metro. They did a good job marketing the women’s game for the NCAA Tournament and got a lot of people there at 3 pm on a Monday. If they had started their effort for Saturday a little earlier they may have packed it out. They had to give away some tickets, promote those tickets, and send a mass email to Norman Schools with a discount, but I think it worked pretty well. They need to have a marketing blitz for the men’s games.
I remember a year they did it for an NIT men’s game. One of the best atmospheres I’d ever seen in the LNC. While I think the LNC is a dump, I also think the fan configuration is the biggest problem. But there’s no way to reward the donors without putting them in the lower bowl. So, a new arena with club/suite options and putting the real fans on the court would be the best of both worlds. Could turn OU basketball into an event that people actually wanted to be a part of.
 
Maybe this will be a wake up call. For too long we’ve relied on selling tickets to donors and corporations who keep hitting renew and not going or giving away tickets.

They really need to market to new fans—people in Norman and south metro. They did a good job marketing the women’s game for the NCAA Tournament and got a lot of people there at 3 pm on a Monday. If they had started their effort for Saturday a little earlier they may have packed it out. They had to give away some tickets, promote those tickets, and send a mass email to Norman Schools with a discount, but I think it worked pretty well. They need to have a marketing blitz for the men’s games.
That is the difficult decision OU must make. And it is difficult.

Do you continue taking the ticket revenue that you know is there, from the corporations, who probably send those payments in early in the process.....or do you hold tickets back and hope that enough fans want season or single game tickets? I can almost guarantee you that revenue will go down if they cut back on selling to corporations, though actual attendance may go up.

They've be better served working with those corporations to ensure tickets are being used. Maybe even sell SRO tickets the day of, more so than they what they already do, but open up seats to those folks if they aren't being used 10 minutes into the game or something. I don't know. Not my job to figure it out, but something needs to change.
 
We don’t have a raucous fan base. It’s almost as if being a fanatic is below our fan base.

And I agree with you about demand steadily declining. I would have kept my football tickets when we moved from Oklahoma had I thought I could even come close to breaking even. But in the last few years I had those tickets, if I couldn’t make a game I had to give them away.
Same. Football ticket demand isn't as big as it's made out to be, sellout streak, SEC, or not.

One of us got sick for the South Carolina game, and I couldn't make it. Listed the tickets on SeatGeek on Friday. Ended up getting like $10 a seat, and we have seatback, elevator pass, 2nd row upperdeck 25 yard line. Not suites or 50 yd line seats, but certainly thought I would get more than $40 for four.

So that's what happens in basketball, too. Boulder has pointed it out. Yes, we had a decline in ticket sales revenue. But the real problem- not just during the PM era- is to get butts in the seats consistently. I live in Tulsa, and if I can't make a weeknight game, it's impossible to unload our seats for basketball. And unfortunately, there are too many season ticket holders' seats that often go unfilled, even during "big" games. And I feel the admin doesn't do much to help or promote games, although better this year.

Look at baseball, too. Outside of softball right now, our fanbase is not as diehard as most SEC schools. Football, we're close, but for the other "major"sports, we are lacking big-time, and it's not only because of Porter Moser.
 
I remember a year they did it for an NIT men’s game. One of the best atmospheres I’d ever seen in the LNC.
I posted this in a thread a few weeks ago. Since you brought it up, I thought I'd re-share the details.
I was at that game. My Uncle dropped the ball and forgot to call in to reserve our normal seats in LE3. We ended up at mid-court in the lower level about two rows in front of the middle concourse. Tremendous crowd. $10 lower level: $5 upper. Lower was packed; upper was full along the sidelines and pretty sparse behind the baskets. Announced crowd numbered about 8,500 and I believe it. Kelvin was effusive in his praise for the gathering and was devastated when the NIT ignored its "rules" and awarded Michigan the home game even though we outdrew them by about 3,000 fans. With that kind of support he thought we had a legitimate shot to make New York. Jabahri Brown had been kicked off the team at the end of the season, so De'Angelo Alexander was playing at center. Brandon Foust at the 4. Neither ever played another game at Oklahoma (DA booted for academic misconduct; Foust for a laundry list of infractions.)
 
I posted this in a thread a few weeks ago. Since you brought it up, I thought I'd re-share the details.
close to correct except Jonnie Gilbert started at Center with larry turner as his back up ..

here is the box score

 
close to correct except Jonnie Gilbert started at Center with larry turner as his back up ..

here is the box score

My post wasn't worded very well. I was referring to DA playing center in the Michigan game. Kelvin specifically referenced it in the post-game radio chat with BBS.
I hadn't thought about Larry Turner in 20 years. Literally!
 
My post wasn't worded very well. I was referring to DA playing center in the Michigan game. Kelvin specifically referenced it in the post-game radio chat with BBS.
I hadn't thought about Larry Turner in 20 years. Literally!
Alexander got hurt in the first half and left the game ..


 
close to correct except Jonnie Gilbert started at Center with larry turner as his back up ..

here is the box score

What I would have given to have had Johnnie Gilbert this year.
 
Gilbert took all kinds of grief when he was at OU. Fans remember him fondly today but he was frequently trashed by fans.
I was just a kid back then but loved Gilbert simply because I would wear white t-shirts when playing middle school basketball haha.
 
How did end up with the nickname Sea Biscuit? Anyone know the story behind that.
 
I’d love to see data to back that up. Loved the guy, but I’m not so sure he was better than what we ran out there this year.
It's just my opinion really. To me, I think he would be better overall than Sam. Less upside than Mo, but maybe more consistent. Mo's highs would be better, but I think his lows could also be lower. Maybe not better overall than Mo, but for me definitely better than Sam and Luke. Maybe I'm just so jaded against Sam at this point that I'm propping up johnnie a bit too high. I don't remember ever thinking about Johnnie what I continually thought about Sam game in and game out. Other than they both worked hard. But Sam's snafu's were just so egregious to me. I mean who is known for starting almost every single game with a missed layup 🤦‍♂️
 
I’d love to see data to back that up. Loved the guy, but I’m not so sure he was better than what we ran out there this year.

Sounds to me like a data challenge!

3.8.ppg and 3.7 rpg aren't the most... Exciting stats off first glance.

(I think I am going to be going back many years adding the players into a massive spreadsheet bc of this question... How dare you)
 
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