Even if Texas stays should OU make a move to another conference?

[Sam]

So if this posturing by Texas is true and they are willing to stay to save the Big 12, should OU be proactive and try to secure a bid to the PAC-10 or SEC?

I know this would be contradictory to what Boren and Joe C have been saying but with both the PAC-10 and SEC being at odd numbers due to Colorado and A&M joining should OU try to even it out?

If so which conference should we join?

 

[seniorsooner]

OU should not stay in the Big 12. Our university leadership appears to be thinking more with their hearts than their heads. Nebraska's university leadership saw the writing on the wall and made an excellent decision based on what is best for their long-term future. Our leadership is failing miserably in that regard.

 

[thebigabd]

OU should not stay in the Big 12. Our university leadership appears to be thinking more with their hearts than their heads. Nebraska's university leadership saw the writing on the wall and made an excellent decision based on what is best for their long-term future. Our leadership is failing miserably in that regard.

Nebraska and Oklahoma are in two very different situations.... Nebraska could not recruit like OU and Texas, and the conference was dominated by the south teams in football. Nebraska made the best move for them, which is going to the Big 10. They fit in very well there.

I don't see a competitive advantage for OU in the Pac-16. I see OU and Texas joining USC as elite teams in the same conference. In most cases, I see a scenario where OU gets worse instead of better.

As for basketball, same thing, no competitive advantage. Its more likely that OU gets worse than better in the new conference. The potential of USC, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, UCLA, and Stanford in basketball is a whole different animal than what we have now.

OU will not get better at anything because of this move. They will still recruit very well in football, pretty good in basketball. There are more possible ways of getting worse, for sure, with USC/Oregon/UCLA/Washington growing in football.

Perhaps that is why Joe C wants to keep it together.... maybe he thinks OU would fall into the middle of the pack or worse in basketball and getting to a national championship in football becomes more difficult as well.

 

[Max Power]

Nebraska and Oklahoma are in two very different situations.... Nebraska could not recruit like OU and Texas, and the conference was dominated by the south teams in football. Nebraska made the best move for them, which is going to the Big 10. They fit in very well there.

I don't see a competitive advantage for OU in the Pac-16. I see OU and Texas joining USC as elite teams in the same conference. In most cases, I see a scenario where OU gets worse instead of better.

As for basketball, same thing, no competitive advantage. Its more likely that OU gets worse than better in the new conference. The potential of USC, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, UCLA, and Stanford in basketball is a whole different animal than what we have now.

OU will not get better at anything because of this move. They will still recruit very well in football, pretty good in basketball. There are more possible ways of getting worse, for sure, with USC/Oregon/UCLA/Washington growing in football.

Perhaps that is why Joe C wants to keep it together.... maybe he thinks OU would fall into the middle of the pack or worse in basketball and getting to a national championship in football becomes more difficult as well.

Yes but look at what usually happens when a Big 12 team get to the Championships (either BCS or NCAA Tourney). We don't do very well, and that just not OU. Kansas has had many an upset, Texas went from #1 to 1 and done, and lost to Bama. OU has lost too many BCS bowl Games. The Big 12 does not prepare our teams very well for these championship environments.

So even if it is harder to get there by leaving the Big 12 then at least when we get there we wont be embarrassed any more in front of the Entire Country

 

[thebigabd]

Yes but look at what usually happens when a Big 12 team get to the Championships (either BCS or NCAA Tourney). We don't do very well, and that just not OU. Kansas has had many an upset, Texas went from #1 to 1 and done, and lost to Bama. OU has lost too many BCS bowl Games. The Big 12 does not prepare our teams very well for these championship environments.

So even if it is harder to get there by leaving the Big 12 then at least when we get there we wont be embarrassed any more in front of the Entire Country

When it comes to national championships you would rather have the chance at one and get beat than play in the Sun Bowl.

 

[skyvue]

OU has lost too many BCS bowl Games. The Big 12 does not prepare our teams very well for these championship environments.

This is the great myth that has taken hold in college football.

A BCS bowl game is just a bowl game, the equivalent of the four "major bowls" of not so long ago. There's no championship element to it whatsoever, and upsets happen frequently throughout the bowl season. It's the Twilight Zone of college football.

The national title game is another matter, obviously, but how many teams have been to four of those games in the past decade? We won one, got blown out in another, but the other two were very competitive and could easily have gone the other way.

One team wins, the other loses. It happens. Being in a different conference wouldn't have made a bit of difference. Our schedule strength is plenty strong, year in and year out. Give us a healthy Jason White (and let us play a team that's not in front of its home crowd) and we're 2-2 in championship games. Let us attempt a freaking pass from inside the ten against Florida and we might be 3-1.

I know, I know -- ifs and buts. But it's ifs and buts to suggest that we'd have won more titles by being in a different conference, too.

 

[Tony]

OU should not stay in the Big 12. Our university leadership appears to be thinking more with their hearts than their heads. Nebraska's university leadership saw the writing on the wall and made an excellent decision based on what is best for their long-term future. Our leadership is failing miserably in that regard.

I agree that this does seem to be the case. Let's hope cooler heads prevail at the regents meeting on Wednesday.

 

[MsProudSooner]

OU should not stay in the Big 12. Our university leadership appears to be thinking more with their hearts than their heads. Nebraska's university leadership saw the writing on the wall and made an excellent decision based on what is best for their long-term future. Our leadership is failing miserably in that regard.

I don't believe for a minute that the leadership is thinking more with their hearts than their heads. On the contrary, the fans let their dislike for Texas color every decision they make. No matter how this turns out, I think our leadership will make their decision based on facts and what's in the long term best interests of OU.

 

[IBleedCrimson&Cream]

I don't believe for a minute that the leadership is thinking more with their hearts than their heads. On the contrary, the fans let their dislike for Texas color every decision they make. No matter how this turns out, I think our leadership will make their decision based on facts and what's in the long term best interests of OU.

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

 

[sybarite]

OU should not stay in the Big 12. Our university leadership appears to be thinking more with their hearts than their heads. Nebraska's university leadership saw the writing on the wall and made an excellent decision based on what is best for their long-term future. Our leadership is failing miserably in that regard.

The Big Twelve would require resurrection in order to succeed. It is and will be without a future. This would just delay the inevitable.

Why would OU be better off remaining with five schools that no major conference wanted?

 

[seniorsooner]

I don't believe for a minute that the leadership is thinking more with their hearts than their heads. On the contrary, the fans let their dislike for Texas color every decision they make. No matter how this turns out, I think our leadership will make their decision based on facts and what's in the long term best interests of OU.

I guess we shall see. Blindly following Texas no matter what they choose to do is not exactly what I call leadership.

 

[Cheno]

I don't believe for a minute that the leadership is thinking more with their hearts than their heads. On the contrary, the fans let their dislike for Texas color every decision they make. No matter how this turns out, I think our leadership will make their decision based on facts and what's in the long term best interests of OU.

Well said! :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

It amazes me how people turn on their own without knowing a fact of what's going on.

 

[Cheno]

Why would OU be better off remaining with five schools that no major conference wanted?

:facepalm Conferences will want the other teams it's just waiting for the first dominoe to fall. All this crap talking people were doing is hilarious and way premature. Who knows the minute the Pac-10 went to 16 then you could see the Big 10, SEC or ACC go to 16 and gobble up KU, KSU, Mizzou & Baylor. The Pac-10 was looking at geography and population first. You can't tell me that Colorado has more athletic value to a conference than KU, KSU or Mizzou. They don't. They stink. And what value does Texas Tech have athletically. None, they were just following Texas. What value does OSU bring to the table athletically? Very little.

 

[Max Power]

:facepalm Conferences will want the other teams it's just waiting for the first dominoe to fall. All this crap talking people were doing is hilarious and way premature. Who knows the minute the Pac-10 went to 16 then you could see the Big 10, SEC or ACC go to 16 and gobble up KU, KSU, Mizzou & Baylor. The Pac-10 was looking at geography and population first. You can't tell me that Colorado has more athletic value to a conference than KU, KSU or Mizzou. They don't. They stink. And what value does Texas Tech have athletically. None, they were just following Texas. What value does OSU bring to the table athletically? Very little.

Boone brings a lot of value with him. Other than that I agree with everything else in there