Every game OU plays shows Capel is a great team builder.

[bocabull]

This was his 3rd rebuilding job. VCU, then the disaster he inherited from Sampson and then his own unfortunate disaster by getting 3 rotten MCD AA apples.

This is the exact team he built on the fly except we would have Goff over Arent and I don't think anybody would argue Arent is better.

When Capel had talent he overachieved with his coaching. Based on what he did in his 2nd and 3rd years it's pretty much a lock we would have the same record we do under Kruger this season.

Lon Kruger would tell you the same thing.

 

[TINY]

This was his 3rd rebuilding job. VCU, then the disaster he inherited from Sampson and then his own unfortunate disaster by getting 3 rotten MCD AA apples.

This is the exact team he built on the fly except we would have Goff over Arent and I don't think anybody would argue Arent is better.

When Capel had talent he overachieved with his coaching. Based on what he did in his 2nd and 3rd years it's pretty much a lock we would have the same record we do under Kruger this season.

Lon Kruger would tell you the same thing.

You cannot be serious. With basically the same team last season, OU had one of its worst seasons ever.

Look at the difference in rebounding/defense from this season to last and remember this is basically the same players.

Capel was a good recruiter, he was not a great coach.

 

[MsProudSooner]

This was his 3rd rebuilding job. VCU, then the disaster he inherited from Sampson and then his own unfortunate disaster by getting 3 rotten MCD AA apples.

This is the exact team he built on the fly except we would have Goff over Arent and I don't think anybody would argue Arent is better.

When Capel had talent he overachieved with his coaching. Based on what he did in his 2nd and 3rd years it's pretty much a lock we would have the same record we do under Kruger this season.

Lon Kruger would tell you the same thing.

Starting this type of thread is just as devisive as the derogatory Capel threads. Give it a rest and move on.

 

[WTSooner]

I'll bite.

1. Capel's problem wasn't limited to 3 rotten MCDAA apples. Look at Chris Early. Look at Newell. Look at Ray Willis. Jeff Capel had a pattern of recruiting bad apples. I've made the argument before, and I'll make it again.....while Capel is a solid recruiter, MOST of the top notch talent he brought in was saddled with attitude problems. He had a lot of trouble closing on the big time kids that weren't getting slow played in the recruiting process b/c of their "issues".

2. While I agree that Capel didn't leave an empty roster, it's certainly nothing better than what Sampson left Capel. I could run down the details to support this, but I'd be wasting my time trying to get you to admit that. So I won't.

3. Doesn't matter what kind of roster Capel left, or would have had. JEFF CAPEL COULD NOT COACH THE KIDS UP, GET THEM TO PLAY TOGETHER, OR IMPLEMENT ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLED A COHERENT, WELL THOUGHT OUT OFFENSIVE OR DEFENSIVE GAME PLAN. That is painfully obvious to anybody that doesn't have an agenda to prop Capel up. Capel had two years to get this kind of play out of Pledger, and he didn't even come close. Who knows what other defections or changes this team would have undergone had Capel came back. There was talk of Cam being unhappy. Pledger. Honore.

I'll be honest with you. It literally offends me that anybody would try to defend Capel's day to day coaching. His teaching. His game planning. What does his second and third seasons have to do with anything? Was Blake Griffin going to come back and play this year? No. And that means OU wasn't going to be very good under Capel. Anybody with a lick of sense knows that, and would admit to it.

 

[Tundrasooner]

Troll bait.

 

[Sawyer]

Capel took over a 21 win VCU team and won 79 games in four years. He maintained the status quo and not much else. Since he's left, they've consistently improved under better coaches, not unlike OU's current transformation.

 

[WTSooner]

Capel took over a 21 win VCU team and won 79 games in four years. He maintained the status quo and not much else. Since he's left, they've consistently improved under better coaches, not unlike OU's current transformation.

Yep. Somebody detailed this out last year, and it was pretty amazing, really. I had kind of bought into the whole "Capel was great at VCU" storyline. That wasn't really true though.

 

[OklahomaLibertarian]

What I know is that I enjoy watching a team that has the basic fundamentals of team defense down.

And yeah, Capel recruited some talent - but a lot of those guys were immature brats who he couldn't coach.

Bottom line is Kruger's our coach now. Good riddance to the Capel era.

 

[tycat947]

Starting this type of thread is just as devisive as the derogatory Capel threads. Give it a rest and move on.

Yes. I think we've had more than enough of them already. The past is the past. We're looking to the future and a bright future IMO!

 

[SoopaSooner]

Troll bait.

Yep

 

[BruinSooner]

You cannot be serious. With basically the same team last season, OU had one of its worst seasons ever.

Look at the difference in rebounding/defense from this season to last and remember this is basically the same players.

Capel was a good recruiter, he was not a great coach.

Osby and Grooms lead me to dispute the "basically the same team" statement. Those are a couple of significant upgrades.

 

[thebigabd]

Geez, ridiculous thread.

 

[WTSooner]

I'm also not willing to say 100% that Grooms would have been here had Capel stayed. Yes, I know there is a Grooms quote saying he loved OU at that time, but he hadn't committed, and was still taking visits. Far from a sure thing, IMO.

 

[Big Old Booger]

This was his 3rd rebuilding job. VCU, then the disaster he inherited from Sampson and then his own unfortunate disaster by getting 3 rotten MCD AA apples.

This is the exact team he built on the fly except we would have Goff over Arent and I don't think anybody would argue Arent is better.

When Capel had talent he overachieved with his coaching. Based on what he did in his 2nd and 3rd years it's pretty much a lock we would have the same record we do under Kruger this season.

Lon Kruger would tell you the same thing.

:facepalm

Yawn

 

[Dr Sleep]

This was his 3rd rebuilding job. VCU, then the disaster he inherited from Sampson and then his own unfortunate disaster by getting 3 rotten MCD AA apples.

This is the exact team he built on the fly except we would have Goff over Arent and I don't think anybody would argue Arent is better.

When Capel had talent he overachieved with his coaching. Based on what he did in his 2nd and 3rd years it's pretty much a lock we would have the same record we do under Kruger this season.

Lon Kruger would tell you the same thing.

I see to remember having one of the best players on the planet in Blake, but yet no one could even bring the ball past half court without a turnover. So in the Elite 8, Capel's brilliant coaching had the team so well prepared, that the game plan was to inbound to Blake, have Blake bring the ball up the court and play 1 on 5.

I also remember Capel having the worst years that i have ever witnessed of OU basketball, and I remember way back to 1980.

 

[DenverSooner]

I see to remember having one of the best players on the planet in Blake, but yet no one could even bring the ball past half court without a turnover. So in the Elite 8, Capel's brilliant coaching had the team so well prepared, that the game plan was to inbound to Blake, have Blake bring the ball up the court and play 1 on 5.

I also remember Capel having the worst years that i have ever witnessed of OU basketball, and I remember way back to 1980.

Not to mention that in his second year OU was only one game above .500 in Big XII play. OU had Longar Longar, Blake Griffin, and Taylor Griffin in its front court. That is about as good as it ever gets in the Big XII. Blake was a once in 20 years type player (if not more). Taylor was a freak athlete. Longar was a solid center that had a good shot. He also had AJ, Leary, Godbold and Crocker. That is a darn good 7 man rotation but Capel barely went .500 in conference play and people want to act like he did a good job because an inferior teams could not possibly stop Griffin and Longar in the NCAA Tournament. Give me a break.

A good coach takes that team to the Sweet 16. A good coach adds a great shooter to that team and a fourth bigman. Not Capel. He adds Tony Neysmith and some other fools that never played in the Big XII. Why? Because he wouldn't recruit Oklahoma, Dallas and juco players. He was an arrogant prick that hurt OU's basketball program.

 

[Stikboy]

No politics on the board please

~MNSooner

 

[Sooner04]

Not to mention that in his second year OU was only one game above .500 in Big XII play. OU had Longar Longar, Blake Griffin, and Taylor Griffin in its front court. That is about as good as it ever gets in the Big XII. Blake was a once in 20 years type player (if not more). Taylor was a freak athlete. Longar was a solid center that had a good shot. He also had AJ, Leary, Godbold and Crocker. That is a darn good 7 man rotation but Capel barely went .500 in conference play and people want to act like he did a good job because an inferior teams could not possibly stop Griffin and Longar in the NCAA Tournament. Give me a break.

And when that team faced anything resembling a "good" team they got smoked. That was the hardest thing to take about Jeff...the fact that in the face of better competition we totally wilted.

I don't have time to look up all the blowouts suffered under Capel, but they were numerous.

 

[seniorsooner]

LMAO another bocatroll classic

 

[LoveDemSooners]

Please tell me this is a joke.