Fire Porter Moser

[hoopsaustin]

He’s already done this in many roundabout ways as the sitting head coach. Would not be surprised at all to offload the blame on the university in as many ways as he can

Yup. Bc the alternative is that he's a crappy coach.. totally natural. But I don't think he'll take the classy high road of doing it

 

[WichitaSooner]

If there is a real indication he might get another grace year (he has already had multiple), I think the fan base needs to do whatever we can to make sure that doesn’t happen. I’ve posted a few times about how IU fans chanted “fire Woodson” last season. His track record there was better than Moser at OU, and they canned him after I think 3 years. There is no doubt the pressure from the fans played a role in that.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

I'm listening to Curry Hicks Sage's Twitter Space right now. He follows coaching searches and has contacts all over the country. His OU contacts have messaged him and say Porter is done.

Take that for what it's worth.

 

[daqman]

I'm listening to Curry Hicks Sage's Twitter Space right now. He follows coaching searches and has contacts all over the country. His OU contacts have messaged him and say Porter is done.

Take that for what it's worth.

cannot imagine any decision maker associated with ou watching a game at lloyd noble and thinking.."yeah...moser deserves another year"

 

[WaymanFan]

Absolutely not. We're one year deeper into the hole because Fears fell into our lap. Last year's team with Jalon Moore "leading" the way would've dropped the 4-14 turd into the punch bowl and we'd be on to the next thing. Instead we missed out on a solid batch of coaches just so we could reward mediocrity to an underwhelming program. I wonder how many NIL agents out there give two dingleberries that Fears went to OU. I wonder how many mercenaries remember that we had two Naismith winners in eight seasons. Beating a crappy Texas team in Austin kicked this wretched can one more year down the road and the more we lose the madder I get. The book should be closed on this nonsense.

By the way: Fears is a great player. He'll never accomplish a thing in New Orleans because that franchise is a joke, but he's one heck of a guard.

I don't technically disagree with anything you said, but I'm still glad we got Fears. As I said prior, I have no idea whether it will help us get a single recruit, but there is no downside to having him represent the OU men's program. There is a more selfish reason I'm glad he came to OU. I live in the Charlotte area and attended that OU-Michigan game last season. It was the most exciting basketball game I ever attended (though a distant second in overall satisfaction to the 1984 OU-Syracuse game). I went nuts when Fears hit that tying 3-pointer while getting fouled. I'm not trading that memory for getting rid of Moser one year early. Sorry.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I see him as a better Jeff Teague

i think he can be better then Darius Garland who is a 2 time all star

 

[BoulderSooner]

A friend from high school (grew up in the Tulsa area) who sometimes talks to someone who works for OU said there is "less than a 1%" chance that Moser is fired before the end of the season. He said Denny is pretty tight lipped but he feels it's like a "50/50" that Moser gets a grace year. He said it seems the clock reset a bit for Moser due to the AD change, and if he finishes the year strong it could influence Denny's decision. He said a poor finish could influence Denny's decision too, but that Denny will definitely let the year play out before making a final decision.

first it is not just Denny's decision .. he is not the top decision maker in the athletic Dept ..

second .. he is getting fired .. unless they pretty much win out .

 

[aliasou]

I don't technically disagree with anything you said, but I'm still glad we got Fears. As I said prior, I have no idea whether it will help us get a single recruit, but there is no downside to having him represent the OU men's program. There is a more selfish reason I'm glad he came to OU. I live in the Charlotte area and attended that OU-Michigan game last season. It was the most exciting basketball game I ever attended (though a distant second in overall satisfaction to the 1984 OU-Syracuse game). I went nuts when Fears hit that tying 3-pointer while getting fouled. I'm not trading that memory for getting rid of Moser one year early. Sorry.

These NBA players repping OU is a net positive in my book.

 

[WichitaSooner]

These NBA players repping OU is a net positive in my book.

How? Legitimately asking. In what tangible way does it benefit us? Sure it feels good, but does it get us better players down the road?

 

[WTSooner]

first it is not just Denny's decision .. he is not the top decision maker in the athletic Dept ..

second .. he is getting fired .. unless they pretty much win out .

This.

Like you said, it's not Denny's decision alone.

And this year is trending VERY badly. OU increased NIL and brought in the best roster they've had for Moser and he is completely dropping the ball. And attendance has fallen off the map. Unless he goes on a crazy winning streak, I too don't see how he could possibly come back.

 

[Sooner Season]

This.

Like you said, it's not Denny's decision alone.

And this year is trending VERY badly. OU increased NIL and brought in the best roster they've had for Moser and he is completely dropping the ball. And attendance has fallen off the map. Unless he goes on a crazy winning streak, I too don't see how he could possibly come back.

Honestly the press conference left me feeling uneasy about Moser's future. "We are going to get with him and dig into it" I think was the quote. Is there really a scenario where he gets another year? Surely not with the loss of fan support but I'm just left wondering.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

Honestly the press conference left me feeling uneasy about Moser's future. "We are going to get with him and dig into it" I think was the quote. Is there really a scenario where he gets another year? Surely not with the loss of fan support but I'm just left wondering.

I think it was his way of saying "We're not firing him today, but we will in March."

 

[Sooner Season]

I think it was his way of saying "We're not firing him today, but we will in March."

Yeah I know he couldn't say much at that point and like you I'm hoping that was just press conference rhetoric but boy another year of Moser and I don't think we would have a program left. We barely do now.

 

[BCSooners]

i think he can be better then Darius Garland who is a 2 time all star

I meant more style of play. I hope he's better than Darius Garland because he is really good and undervalued. Just so hard to predict Fears because he's still really young and on a bad organization.

 

[hoopsaustin]

first it is not just Denny's decision .. he is not the top decision maker in the athletic Dept ..

second .. he is getting fired .. unless they pretty much win out .

Boulder I'm not so sure its a sure thing.. well see

 

[MJSooner]

Boulder I'm not so sure its a sure thing.. well see

But what could Denny, Stephenson, or Harroz find out that they didn't know or couldn't see by having deep conversations and "digging in"? More NIL? More admin support? More recruiting budget, more staff, etc? Get the arena done? That's what PM or those inside will say.

And, yeah, all those will help, but they won't fix it.

Because, ultimately, even if you get better talent and maybe some competitive help on the frontline for once, have more support and dollars for the program, it doesn't take long to figure out still have the same issues. Defensive issues/lapses, scoring droughts due to offensive sets (or lack thereof), end-of-game confusion and collapses, very questionable substitution patterns and playing time, lack of overall player development, staff turnover, and a nervous, controlling energy on the bench that doesn't create calm, confident execution. Repeated for 5 years with different lineups.

THOSE are the issues that keep us from being the team and program we should be, not solely about NIL, admin, fans, and an arena.

NIL budget, an apathetic fanbase (for years, not just under PM), an admin that hasn't given a sh*t, and an arena ARE real problems that Denny needs to help fix. But, at this point, Denny and any decision maker cannot begin to fix those issues until the core issues are fixed due to coaching.

And this is coming from someone who has supported Moser, likes the guy, and has had great 1:1 interactions with him. In sports, I guess there are no sure things.

But it's time.

 

[WichitaSooner]

None of us know with certainty what will happen. We all know what should happen, but unfortunately we will just have to hope they do the right thing. Along those lines, I absolutely think us losing as many games as possible the rest of the way is the best outcome. It would be really hard for the decisions makers to justify keeping this tool if we end up 13-19 with a first-round loss in Nashville, or something similar. I mean, think how bad that would be -- that would mean we won 2 of our final 18 games. No sure thing we will get two more wins, mind you, but that would be such a disaster that I don't know how they could justify any decision other than canning him.

 

[hoopsaustin]

But what could Denny, Stephenson, or Harroz find out that they didn't know or couldn't see by having deep conversations and "digging in"? More NIL? More admin support? More recruiting budget, more staff, etc? Get the arena done? That's what PM or those inside will say.

And, yeah, all those will help, but they won't fix it.

Because, ultimately, even if you get better talent and maybe some competitive help on the frontline for once, have more support and dollars for the program, it doesn't take long to figure out still have the same issues. Defensive issues/lapses, scoring droughts due to offensive sets (or lack thereof), end-of-game confusion and collapses, very questionable substitution patterns and playing time, lack of overall player development, staff turnover, and a nervous, controlling energy on the bench that doesn't create calm, confident execution. Repeated for 5 years with different lineups.

THOSE are the issues that keep us from being the team and program we should be, not solely about NIL, admin, fans, and an arena.

NIL budget, an apathetic fanbase (for years, not just under PM), an admin that hasn't given a sh*t, and an arena ARE real problems that Denny needs to help fix. But, at this point, Denny and any decision maker cannot begin to fix those issues until the core issues are fixed due to coaching.

And this is coming from someone who has supported Moser, likes the guy, and has had great 1:1 interactions with him. In sports, I guess there are no sure things.

But it's time.

I want him gone more than anyone. I did 2ish years ago before Joe Castiglione gave him an unconscionable extension.. But money is obviously king right now and that can change a routine normal firing situation that would have 100% occurred in the past

 

[hoopsaustin]

None of us know with certainty what will happen. We all know what should happen, but unfortunately we will just have to hope they do the right thing. Along those lines, I absolutely think us losing as many games as possible the rest of the way is the best outcome. It would be really hard for the decisions makers to justify keeping this tool if we end up 13-19 with a first-round loss in Nashville, or something similar. I mean, think how bad that would be -- that would mean we won 2 of our final 18 games. No sure thing we will get two more wins, mind you, but that would be such a disaster that I don't know how they could justify any decision other than canning him.

11-21 IMO. Idk, we'll prolly accidently win one despite Loser, so 12-20

 

[WichitaSooner]

11-21 IMO. Idk, we'll prolly accidently win one despite Loser, so 12-20

Yea, I think we will win a game or two in spite of ourselves. A team will play like crap, or we will have an unreal shooting night. The fear would be if we somehow manage to win, say, four or more games. I don't see that happening, but the league is so down compared to last year that we only have one ranked team left on the schedule somehow.