Fire Porter Moser

TEvans4Three said:
The big thing for me is, if his coaching in the last 4 years led us to believe that us losing close games this year was a fluke, I would get it and defend him. If we were in the tournament 3 out of the last 4 years and had at least 2 winning seasons in conference. I would have no issues. If he had retained players and showed any ability to develop players at all, I would be giving him time for sure.

But it is the same year after year. No offensive identity, squandering leads, mind-numbing substitution patters, lack of any accountability on the glass and defensive end.

He may be a nice guy, but he sucks as a head basketball coach.

I hope we hire a solid up and comer with a proper basketball GM.
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The GM point is a good one. Not having one has been a huge detriment, since it’s clear Moser has absolutely no idea how to build a roster. He’s clueless on what type of player it takes to win at this level. Whoever we hire as coach, it would show a meaningful commitment to the program if they also hire a GM.

I was thinking more about his substitution patterns last night. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach with less of a plan when it comes to his approach. One game he only plays two guys off the bench. The next, five bench guys play before halftime. One game a guy is your first man off the bench. The next, he barely sees the floor. It’s just another way he shows how clueless he is.
 
hoopsaustin said:
He did it to explain why its not his fault and to avoid accountability. Hes had an extremely long runway in a sport that fires coaches routinely after 2 year spells (which we could have done for little to no $ - thanks Joe Castiglione)
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I'd like to actually listen to the interview before drawing any conclusions on it.
Sometimes posters like to stretch what is said to fit the narrative they want.
 
WichitaSooner said:
The GM point is a good one. Not having one has been a huge detriment, since it’s clear Moser has absolutely no idea how to build a roster. He’s clueless on what type of player it takes to win at this level. Whoever we hire as coach, it would show a meaningful commitment to the program if they also hire a GM.

I was thinking more about his substitution patterns last night. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach with less of a plan when it comes to his approach. One game he only plays two guys off the bench. The next, five bench guys play before halftime. One game a guy is your first man off the bench. The next, he barely sees the floor. It’s just another way he shows how clueless he is.
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100% agree.

To your point about lack of a plan or substitution patterns, I think it was at about the 13-14 minute mark in the first half, I commented to my wife that Kai Rogers was getting up to go to the scorers table to check in- first time in a few games. No dead ball before the under 12 TO, and when they come back to the floor, Mo is checking back in instead. Didn't make any sense, and that is not the only time or player even a casual observer can make the comment. Or not playing guys at all, or enough, like Soares, Marvin Johnson, and now Kuol. It just doesn't make any sense.

One of the best things about LK, and others, was that you KNEW who was going to be on the floor and when. Buddy coming out 1-2 minutes ahead of a media TO. Who's coming off the bench, who is in at crunch time, etc. True with Kelvin and Billy, too. True with most every good coach.

As @TEvans4Three, it would be different if this year were an anomaly on his "issues" we see on the court. But it's a 5 year pattern.
 
mict085 said:
We definitely need a basketball GM but I worry we won’t commit those resources to basketball.
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I wouldn't bet on a GM. I think they will defer to the HC. 15 players is a lot less than 85 or whatever in football
 
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hoopsaustin said:
I wouldn't get on a GM. I think they will defer to the HC. 15 players is a lot less than 85 or whatever in football
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Sure, if we’re not serious about basketball success. If we are serious, we need a GM and a few analysts to assist with the numerous tasks that the coaching staff needs help doing. Identifying the best players in the portal and HS to recruit. Recruiting donor support for the program. We clearly need help teaching fundamentals and understanding game scenarios. Refining technique and sharpening skills. If we had a few more hands helping, it would pay dividends. The GM could manage roster construction and recruiting as well as oversee analyst to help coaches and connecting with donors to raise money. The head coach can’t do it all.

It doesn’t have to be as extensive as the football program but the coaching staff needs more help or we will continue to fall behind.
 
hoopsaustin said:
I wouldn't get on a GM. I think they will defer to the HC. 15 players is a lot less than 85 or whatever in football
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Yea that oversimplifies it. I have heard plenty of discussion about what the good programs do and it is a full time job. During the season, the GM spends most of his time watching video of pretty much every team/player in the country to prepare for the upcoming portal season. A head coach can't do that. They have to get their team ready to play games and prep for practice. Coaches basically know the players in their league and maybe the guys on the noncon schedule. That leave about 4,000 players they have never seen.
 
mict085 said:
Sure, if we’re not serious about basketball success. If we are serious, we need a GM and a few analysts to assist with the numerous tasks that the coaching staff needs help doing. Identifying the best players in the portal and HS to recruit. Recruiting donor support for the program. We clearly need help teaching fundamentals and understanding game scenarios. Refining technique and sharpening skills. If we had a few more hands helping, it would pay dividends. The GM could manage roster construction and recruiting as well as oversee analyst to help coaches and connecting with donors to raise money. The head coach can’t do it all.

It doesn’t have to be as extensive as the football program but the coaching staff needs more help or we will continue to fall behind.
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Exactly.

Basketball is no longer amateurs fighting for their alma mater.

It is 100% a business, you need to build a good product on the floor and maximize your return on your investment.

We need a GM. We need someone to evaluate portal player value, contact agents midseason, and find diamonds with our limited budget to moneyball success.
If we don't we are not serious about basketball.
 
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This article was linked by an Athletic writer who said he really likes Jordan Fee. But the article has Loser among the coaches on the hottest seat and speculates a decision could be made shortly after Denny officially takes over on the 15th.
 
WichitaSooner said:


This article was linked by an Athletic writer who said he really likes Jordan Fee. But the article has Loser among the coaches on the hottest seat and speculates a decision could be made shortly after Denny officially takes over on the 15th.
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Just heard of Jordan Fee a couple of days ago. He used to be an assistant to D2 coaching savant Jim Crutchfield of Nova Southeastern, formerly of West Liberty. Crutchfield is very well regarded in the industry, won D2 national championships, didn't bother to try to move up. Jordan Fee is his guy.

Someone is going to hire him.
 
AnotherSoonerInTX said:
Just heard of Jordan Fee a couple of days ago. He used to be an assistant to D2 coaching savant Jim Crutchfield of Nova Southeastern, formerly of West Liberty. Crutchfield is very well regarded in the industry, won D2 national championships, didn't bother to try to move up. Jordan Fee is his guy.

Someone is going to hire him.
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Crutchfield is fascinating, I read a long profile on him last year.

The thing that makes me sad is that in that article I linked, they talk about three recent hires from nontraditional backgrounds who are now succeeding -- and they are all guys that we were lobbying for a year or two ago. If only Joe C had listened to us on that one, when it was so clear Moser isn't equipped to do the job.
 
Boom Soon said:
I like the idea of an assistant from a successful program not named Kellen.
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Zaga got anybody?

Too many coaches at smaller programs to ignore them too. I'd look at the guys at St. Louis and Utah State. There are others. I'd rather stay away from the NBA guys. There have been some that worked, I'm just not sure of the fit at OU. Go get a low-maintenance guy that known for winning and development. Somebody that has consistently put up good numbers in their conference, without having the best roster in said conference. Because we aren't close to being in a position to have the most talent in the SEC.
 
AnotherSoonerInTX said:
Just heard of Jordan Fee a couple of days ago. He used to be an assistant to D2 coaching savant Jim Crutchfield of Nova Southeastern, formerly of West Liberty. Crutchfield is very well regarded in the industry, won D2 national championships, didn't bother to try to move up. Jordan Fee is his guy.

Someone is going to hire him.
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A blurb about Fee from his wikipedia page. He only has one year as a head coach, but this was what he did: "He turned the Golden Knights team that had lost 3–23 in the previous season to a 32–3 record as the team won the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference (PSAC) West division and the PSAC tournament." Pretty damn impressive, if only a very small sample size
 
I wonder how Blair and Holst are coming along. Lots of promise on the roster, clearly with another year to get his guys in place, Moser will have things rolling!
 
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