Fire Porter Moser

[WichitaSooner]

We got 3 starters. Pack Tae and Brown. Reid did not start at Bama. Reid started 3 games.

Wow. Talk about a total misunderstanding of what you pay for in the portal.

 

[WTSooner]

No source, just going by On3's NIL evaluation for the top stars. If AJ Dybantsa is $4M, JT Toppin $2.8M, Cameron Boozer $2.3M...here is how I think our guys should fall in line with those evaluations. On3 will still have industry accurate ranges for NIL evaluations even though it may not be the exact number.

So use those numbers and tell me how Kentucky and others spent that much?

 

[WTSooner]

We got 3 starters. Pack Tae and Brown. Reid did not start at Bama. Reid started 3 games.

He starts for us. Four of our starters. No shame in not starting for a loaded Bama team as an underclassman.

 

[allday92]

So use those numbers and tell me how Kentucky and others spent that much?

I don't pay for On3, can only see the top 10 athletes. If someone does, they should be able to see the a lot more than I can.

The $22M number for Kentucky is direct from Kentucky people (Dick Vitale calls out moral victories and Kentucky’s NIL spending). They chose to publicize this. They outbid normal valuations and overpaid for this roster.

 

[cvangild]

I don't pay for On3, can only see the top 10 athletes. If someone does, they should be able to see the a lot more than I can.

The $22M number for Kentucky is direct from Kentucky people (Dick Vitale calls out moral victories and Kentucky’s NIL spending). They chose to publicize this. They outbid normal valuations and overpaid for this roster.

And Pope has done an avg job coaching this team. I mean they have that AA player that Porter couldn’t develop, right?

 

[TINY]

The numbers are less relevant than the fact that every single time we see a list it has OU at the bottom 2-3 spots. But I’m sure absolute nobodies on this message board know more than people doing this for a living…

 

[cvangild]

So use those numbers and tell me how Kentucky and others spent that much?

I mean they’re paying Garrison a $1MM+ to give them 15 mpg and 4pt and 4 reb. . How much is our back-up post making?

 

[mict085]

I mean they’re paying Garrison a $1MM+ to give them 15 mpg and 4pt and 4 reb. . How much is our back-up post making?

I was disappointed we lost out on Garrison twice, but he’s been a bust. A role player that hasn’t made much difference. Kentucky has overpaid for the wrong players and their coach is not a big league guy either.

 

[Eielson]

I mean they’re paying Garrison a $1MM+ to give them 15 mpg and 4pt and 4 reb. . How much is our back-up post making?

When you're paying backups 1M, it's not that hard to make the math work out to 20M for a roster.

 

[Eielson]

OU has full sec payout this year and going forward.

My understanding is that we won't have seen much of that money at that time we'd be needing it for Moser firing, and that we're down over 100M when counting Big 12 buyout and almost no SEC payment.

 

[61sooner]

Just watched the OU-Texas replay on SEC network. Always great to beat Texas but reminded me that even Boo Blake beat Texas and was also a failure at OU.

 

[BoulderSooner]

My understanding is that we won't have seen much of that money at that time we'd be needing it for Moser firing, and that we're down over 100M when counting Big 12 buyout and almost no SEC payment.

I don't believe they were down that much ..

 

[WTSooner]

I don't pay for On3, can only see the top 10 athletes. If someone does, they should be able to see the a lot more than I can.

The $22M number for Kentucky is direct from Kentucky people (Dick Vitale calls out moral victories and Kentucky’s NIL spending). They chose to publicize this. They outbid normal valuations and overpaid for this roster.

It's still hard to make the math work.

The top KY player on that "valuation" is listed at $1.6M.

Say every starter makes $1.6M. Say they have a full roster of 15 scholarship players, the max allowed this season.

Say every backup makes $1M.

That totals $18M.

If you are going to use On3, then you have to believe nobody on their roster is making over about $1.6M. If that is true, their 5 starters aren't likely all making that. I doubt all 10 bench guys are making $1M.

I don't care what number(s) KY released. Or, if you believe KY, then you have to say the On3 numbers are WAY off. If they got close to that number it's likely tied up in 1-2 players getting a bunch more then they should have, not some massive over-paying of all 15 players.

Some schools could have reported operating costs related to NIL in that. They could have reported costs associated with administration of NIL, maybe even part of the coach's salary.

I really don't believe anything I read on NIL numbers.

 

[WTSooner]

My understanding is that we won't have seen much of that money at that time we'd be needing it for Moser firing, and that we're down over 100M when counting Big 12 buyout and almost no SEC payment.

Texas, Oklahoma were to pay a steep price for leaving Big 12 early. That's not how it turned out

The Big 12 reached an agreement with Texas and Oklahoma allowing the schools to leave for the SEC in 2024. The agreement has some unexpected twists.

www.usatoday.com

ESPN gave us supplemental payments. We did receive some pay from the SEC.

Not sure why you don't think we'd have money when we'd need it to pay Moser. First, they have the cash to pay it in full now if they wanted. But it would be paid over a couple of years. We're in a fiscal year that will see us getting full payment from the SEC.

 

[mict085]

My understanding is that we won't have seen much of that money at that time we'd be needing it for Moser firing, and that we're down over 100M when counting Big 12 buyout and almost no SEC payment.

We were never down $100 million. We took a hit but it was offset by receiving partial shares in the SEC. Regardless, we have the money to fire moser and hire a new staff. NIL is the wildcard.

 

[NickZepp]

https://www.on3.com/sites/ou-insider/news/oklahomas-late-push-has-altered-the-porter-moser-conversation/

Barring a collapse in the SEC Tournament and a bad loss to 14-seed South Carolina, Moser returning to Oklahoma for a sixth season is not only a very realistic possibility but, as of right now, the likely outcome, as sources have stated.

 

[allday92]

https://www.on3.com/sites/ou-insider/news/oklahomas-late-push-has-altered-the-porter-moser-conversation/

This board is going to burn into flames. Sorry @BoulderSooner

 

[CoachTalk]

It's still hard to make the math work.

The top KY player on that "valuation" is listed at $1.6M.

Say every starter makes $1.6M. Say they have a full roster of 15 scholarship players, the max allowed this season.

Say every backup makes $1M.

That totals $18M.

If you are going to use On3, then you have to believe nobody on their roster is making over about $1.6M. If that is true, their 5 starters aren't likely all making that. I doubt all 10 bench guys are making $1M.

I don't care what number(s) KY released. Or, if you believe KY, then you have to say the On3 numbers are WAY off. If they got close to that number it's likely tied up in 1-2 players getting a bunch more then they should have, not some massive over-paying of all 15 players.

Some schools could have reported operating costs related to NIL in that. They could have reported costs associated with administration of NIL, maybe even part of the coach's salary.

I really don't believe anything I read on NIL numbers.

There is source after source. I know you want to be right but just admit youre wrong and move on.

Most those starters are more than $1.6

Even if is 19.8 or 18. or 23mil....

Kentucky’s $22 Million Payroll Expected to Lead College Basketball for 2025-26

Wildcats outpace the rest of the nation in first season under new NIL rules

sports.yahoo.com

 

[daqman]

hum.... Some guys that know more than people working at OU arent going to like this...

everyone should not like this.
why would anyone want to continue with a coach who has 0 chance of competing for anything meaningful in this sport?

 

[hoopsaustin]

everyone should not like this.
why would anyone want to continue with a coach who has 0 chance of competing for anything meaningful in this sport?

If OU would win a bball natty but it required coachtalk to NOT be an ass for only 1 day, we'd still have 0 nattys..