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I agree with with you about Ohio. Last season they beat Michigan and South Florida. They also gave Louisville a run for there money. They should only be better this year. If we manage to win it will be a very good sign.

Also, the bolded statement is obviously false.


OU will be enough better this season that they will run the good mid majors out of the gym at home. The trouble spots are at Arkansas and the holiday tourney. ORU on the road will probably give them a closer game than Ohio.
 
OU will be enough better this season that they will run the good mid majors out of the gym at home. The trouble spots are at Arkansas and the holiday tourney. ORU on the road will probably give them a closer game than Ohio.

I think Ohio will be pretty good, but having them at home will help a lot. I think you're probably right, though, that we should beat teams like Ohio. ORU I am less worried about personally. It is a road game, but not a hard road game (OU fans will be there). If we can't win that one, I will be more worried than I would be if we lost to Ohio.
 
Can't really disagree with any of that except the part about "shouldn't" schedule MU. I wouldn't expect OU to go out of their way to work MU into the schedule, but if it happened to work out for both teams, I don't see why not. (I'd love to play Nebraska in football occasionally)

I am just spiteful. Truth is, I don't hold much of a legit grudge against anyone but Colorado at this point. But my opinion reflects (as much as some will hate to read this) solidarity with KU on the Missouri thing. I think leaving the Big XII should cost Mizzou as much as possible in the KC market. And since the Big XII has a big presence there, playing Mizzou attracts more media attention.

Hell, I can't even disagree much with what UT has done, in a practical sense.
They are looking out for their own interests and so is everyone else.
OU or Mizzou or anyone else would have done the network deal they received.

Colorado's move deliberately cost OU. I think that's an objective position.
Of course, I am only repeating what I've heard. I read that it was Colorado's doing or 'undoing' as it were. I assume it is true.
 
You guys play Ohio on December 29. I assume students will be out of town, which will hurt your home court advantage. And no way is Oral Roberts going to be a tougher game, no matter where it's played. Ohio brings back all nine regulars from a Sweet 16 team. Oral Roberts lost its leading scorer, leading rebounder and leading assist guy from an NIT team that only went seven deep in the first place.
 
You guys play Ohio on December 29. I assume students will be out of town, which will hurt your home court advantage. And no way is Oral Roberts going to be a tougher game, no matter where it's played. Ohio brings back all nine regulars from a Sweet 16 team. Oral Roberts lost its leading scorer, leading rebounder and leading assist guy from an NIT team that only went seven deep in the first place.


Since when did OU fans need a SEC guy to point out trouble spots in our schedule. Kruger got Ohio on the schedule for a reason. Find a mid major with alittle name recognition, bring them in, and beat them.

OU is is much improved. Mayby still a step or two away from good. But, for now, the days of being bad are over. Try frightening the SEC crowd with how good Missouri is. Mayby they will fall for it.
 
Since when did OU fans need a SEC guy to point out trouble spots in our schedule. Kruger got Ohio on the schedule for a reason. Find a mid major with alittle name recognition, bring them in, and beat them.

OU is is much improved. Mayby still a step or two away from good. But, for now, the days of being bad are over. Try frightening the SEC crowd with how good Missouri is. Mayby they will fall for it.

Mizzou has a chance to be a Top 3 SEC team season in and season out.
 
Good for them.

That's about what they were doing in the Big 12. So I don't see how are your insults hold ground then. I've always thought from a basketball perspective (aside from losing their KU rivalry) the SEC was a good move for them.
 
That's about what they were doing in the Big 12. So I don't see how are your insults hold ground then. I've always thought from a basketball perspective (aside from losing their KU rivalry) the SEC was a good move for them.

What insult? It is that I just don't care what happens with Missouri basketball and what their fans think about OU basketball prospects.

Do you?
 
What insult? It is that I just don't care what happens with Missouri basketball and what their fans think about OU basketball prospects.

Do you?

Gary, let's not pretend that "Try frightening the SEC crowd with how good Missouri is. Mayby they will fall for it" is meant as anything but an attempt to be demeaning. So there was the insult you spouted that you quickly forgot.

Also, yes, I do care what happens to Missouri basketball. I also care what happens to UCLA, Kansas, Duke, etc basketball because I am a college basketball. I follow the game and watch a lot more games than just the Sooners I love.

And, I would say, generally I do not care what Mizzou basketball fans think of OU prospects. However, I am always interested to hear what people with knowledge and love of the game have to say about OU prospects. Which, Sawyer -regardless of the fan base he hails from - often adds insightful talking points to this board.
 
Gary, let's not pretend that "Try frightening the SEC crowd with how good Missouri is. Mayby they will fall for it" is meant as anything but an attempt to be demeaning. So there was the insult you spouted that you quickly forgot.

Also, yes, I do care what happens to Missouri basketball. I also care what happens to UCLA, Kansas, Duke, etc basketball because I am a college basketball. I follow the game and watch a lot more games than just the Sooners I love.

And, I would say, generally I do not care what Mizzou basketball fans think of OU prospects. However, I am always interested to hear what people with knowledge and love of the game have to say about OU prospects. Which, Sawyer -regardless of the fan base he hails from - often adds insightful talking points to this board.



Well, good for you and Missouri basketball. But, I still don't give a hoot whether Missouri wins or loses or what their fans think about the team I care about.
 
Glad to hear you don't care about what I think. Another post or two about how you don't care would help reinforce the point, though...

Not sure what a discussion of Ohio basketball has to do with the SEC. They happen to be a team I'm pretty familiar with (and obviously you're not).
 
Glad to hear you don't care about what I think. Another post or two about how you don't care would help reinforce the point, though...

Not sure what a discussion of Ohio basketball has to do with the SEC. They happen to be a team I'm pretty familiar with (and obviously you're not).

No no. You pop in in with a you guys need to be worried about this really good team coming in. They did this last year and they have all this coming back and OU might need to tamp down expectations.

Horse hockey. They are a good mid major coming off a nice run. OU is a much different team now. That is something you obviously don't know anything about. Kruger wouldn't have put them on the schedule if he didn't think he was going to beat them. And they wouldn't be there if he didn't want them there.

Hell, Pledger,Fitz,and Grooms are as good or better than the kind of player Ohio would typically get. Osby and M'baye will be the two best players on the court. And the three freshman guards are better athletes than Ohio would ever hope to get more than once every 10 years.

So, when you want come in to inform OU fans they need to be concerned about some mid major that we are catching at home. I really could care less.
 
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OU should never compete with Missouri again in any sport for any reason. The conference should not spend money in KC. Missouri tried to destroy the Big XII conference. It was Missouri that got Nebraska and Colorado to leave the conference. Then Missouri left the next year.

F#$* Missouri. Actions have consequences and OU as well as the rest of the conference should never play Missouri again.



Except in football, because it would be fun to beat up on them a few more times.
 
Gary, let's not pretend that "Try frightening the SEC crowd with how good Missouri is. Mayby they will fall for it" is meant as anything but an attempt to be demeaning. So there was the insult you spouted that you quickly forgot.

Also, yes, I do care what happens to Missouri basketball. I also care what happens to UCLA, Kansas, Duke, etc basketball because I am a college basketball. I follow the game and watch a lot more games than just the Sooners I love.

And, I would say, generally I do not care what Mizzou basketball fans think of OU prospects. However, I am always interested to hear what people with knowledge and love of the game have to say about OU prospects. Which, Sawyer -regardless of the fan base he hails from - often adds insightful talking points to this board.

TO be fair, he wasn't insulting you or any posters, he was insulting Missouri. I think it is pretty clear that MU has a lot of fans animosity right now because they jumped ship. I definitely agree with you that I like to hear from other fans and watch good basketball, but you can't blame any OU fans for negative opinions of Missouri.
 
No no. You pop in in with a you guys need to be worried about this really good team coming in. They did this last year and they have all this coming back and OU might need to tamp down expectations.

Horse hockey. They are a good mid major coming off a nice run. OU is a much different team now. That is something you obviously don't know anything about. Kruger wouldn't have put them on the schedule if he didn't think he was going to beat them. And they wouldn't be there if he didn't want them there.

Hell, Pledger,Fitz,and Grooms are as good or better than the kind of player Ohio would typically get. Osby and M'baye will be the two best players on the court. And the three freshman guards are better athletes than Ohio would ever hope to get more than once every 10 years.

So, when you want come in to inform OU fans they need to be concerned about some mid major that we are catching at home. I really could care less.

Reading comprehension 101:

"Arguably the most dangerous team on your non-conference schedule" is not the same thing as "you guys need to be worried." Saying Ohio is good relative to the other teams you'll play is hardly a warning...

I'd say your characterization of Oklahoma's talent compared to Ohio's more or less proves you're ignorant of the kind of team they'll be bringing to Norman.
 
Reading comprehension 101:

"Arguably the most dangerous team on your non-conference schedule" is not the same thing as "you guys need to be worried." Saying Ohio is good relative to the other teams you'll play is hardly a warning...

I'd say your characterization of Oklahoma's talent compared to Ohio's more or less proves you're ignorant of the kind of team they'll be bringing to Norman.

Arkansas at Barnhill, Gonzaga and West Virginia on a neutral court are the potential trouble spots in non conference.

You like to get on here and poke, gig, and taunt OU fans. You did it all last season. I guess that you have every right too do that. I also reserve the right right to call you on it.

I don't need you you to scout opponents for me. Nor do I need an apprasial of OU's current talent situation. A topic on which you are obviously ingnorant.

When Missouri left the conference, I just thought you might go with them. Oh well.
 
Arkansas at Barnhill, Gonzaga and West Virginia on a neutral court are the potential trouble spots in non conference.

Arkansas, as a road game, will be tough. But IMO they have major issues inside and outside of BJ Young don't have a great scoring option on the perimeter. I think OU matches up well with them. You have a point guard in Grooms who can handle the pressure and more than enough inside to exploit their weakness there.

Gonzaga will definitely be good, but I've never been a huge fan of theirs. They seem to have plateaued as a program.

I'm not sure what you mean about West Virginia. They're in the Big 12 now.

I never said Ohio was the only difficult team you played, anyway. I said they arguably might be the most difficult, and considering what they did last year and what they return, no reasonable basketball observer would disagree with that.

You like to get on here and poke, gig, and taunt OU fans. You did it all last season. I guess that you have every right too do that. I also reserve the right right to call you on it.

Anything else you want to pull out of your butt? If I wanted to taunt OU fans, it would have been incredibly easy. I never did. If you read my posts that way, it's because you wanted it to be true. Which takes me back to the whole reasonable observer thing...

I don't need you you to scout opponents for me. Nor do I need an apprasial of OU's current talent situation.


Cool. Then don't read what I write (although nothing I posted earlier in this thread had a bit to do with OU's current talent). This board has a pretty effective ignore feature.
 
Arkansas, as a road game, will be tough. But IMO they have major issues inside and outside of BJ Young don't have a great scoring option on the perimeter. I think OU matches up well with them. You have a point guard in Grooms who can handle the pressure and more than enough inside to exploit their weakness there.

Gonzaga will definitely be good, but I've never been a huge fan of theirs. They seem to have plateaued as a program.

I'm not sure what you mean about West Virginia. They're in the Big 12 now.

I never said Ohio was the only difficult team you played, anyway. I said they arguably might be the most difficult, and considering what they did last year and what they return, no reasonable basketball observer would disagree with that.



Anything else you want to pull out of your butt? If I wanted to taunt OU fans, it would have been incredibly easy. I never did. If you read my posts that way, it's because you wanted it to be true. Which takes me back to the whole reasonable observer thing...




Cool. Then don't read what I write (although nothing I posted earlier in this thread had a bit to do with OU's current talent). This board has a pretty effective ignore feature.



Get yourself up to speed if you want to make expert commentary on OU's opponents. West Virginia is on the other side of the bracket in the Old Spice Classic. That would be the non conference part of the schedule.

So, what is the motive for getting on another teams message board and trotting out a mid major boogey man. And questioning OU's ability to handle a mid major at home is absolutely nothing more than a commentary on the current talent level. You are not qualified to do that at anywhere close to the level an OU fan is.

Your premise is faulty due to your total lack of knowledge of what OU has in the gym right now. And no, I'm not going use the ignore feature. Myself, and many others on this board, who I probably disagree with, but, have a great deal of respect for, are willing to take a position and then defend it. When you take the poke, gig, and taunt position, put your big boy panties on because you are going to have to defend it.
 
No one here's questioning Oklahoma's ability to handle Ohio. Again, pointing out that Ohio is a good team and might be better than the others Oklahoma plays has nothing to do with how good Oklahoma is or isn't. What Oklahoma has is irrelevant.

When have I ever made a point here and not defended it?

Like I've already said, please come join me in reality.
 
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