I think Trae should stay 4 years
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He absolutely is a lottery pick. The rest of the season will determine where he goes in the lottery.
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He wasn't even on the draft radar coming into the year and it's only 5 games into the season. He's probably still not in the lottery if the draft were today. He's not a physical freak ... he's going to have to prove it over 35 games before anyone invests that much money.
No one under 6'3" has been drafted in the first round in the last two years. Size and athleticism are everything in the NBA.
He will definitely play himself into the lottery, but it's not a guarantee.
No one under 6'3" has been drafted in the first round in the last two years. Size and athleticism are everything in the NBA.
He will definitely play himself into the lottery, but it's not a guarantee.
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I think he should stay 8. Hit the nba in his prime. Only want the best for the kid.
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Thats an interesting stat. Trae isnt a freak athlete and he is really small. There are guys that are 6'9 bringing the ball up the court. I just dont see how he can be a lottery pick in a league that values athletic ability and height above almost anything else.
Trae may not be a freak, but he is a pretty decent athlete. He is small but the 6'9" guy that brings the ball up court has to defend Trae on the other end. People are noting Steph Curry is listed at 6'3", but Chris Paul is only 6'0". Tony Parker is 6'2" and Patty Mills is 6'0". The Spurs do alright with small PG's. The thing about Trae that surprises me the most is how well he plays the PG position. He's just not a shooter. He has good court vision and is a very good passer. He would have a lot more assists if we had anyone who had a hot hand on the perimeter. He's a good ball handler and has no trouble against a single defender.
The trend in the NBA is to play small ball like the Warriors. Also, they draft off of potential as much as current production. Trae doesn't have to be a lottery pick to consider declaring. He just has to be a first round pick.
The Big 12 competition will be a learning experience. He won't average 30 ppg. If I were guessing, I'm assuming he will have a decent year and will get an invitation to the NBA draft combine. I would assume he will submit his name, and go to the camp. If he doesn't perform well enough to get a good draft grade, he has time to withdraw his name and return to school just like Lattin did.
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You can say the warriors play small ball all you want, but their best lineup goes:
6'3"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'9"
I also see what you're saying about chris paul, tony parker, patty mills, etc. But Patty Mills was drafted in 2009. Chris Paul in 2005. Tony Parker in 1978. Chris Paul was drafted 4th, but Tony Parker was drafted 28th. Patty Mills was drafted 55th.
Trae will make the NBA, and I think he will be a very good player. I just also think he's got a steep hill to climb to work his way into the top 10 of the draft based on what the NBA values. I also think the Big 12 is going to beat him up physically, and there's no way he can sustain these numbers against a night in/night out beating from big, physical guards.
Consider this guy: Big 12 player of the year, Wooden Award Winner
21ppg
4 rpg
5apg
50% fg
47% 3pt
He did that against maybe the best schedule in the nation. He's 5'11" and was drafted 34th overall. He's also the only player under 6'3" to win the Wooden award in the last 12 years.
The NBA values size and jumping ability. Trae's speed is going to mean something, but where guys like Bamba from Texas are going to get a ton of credit just for being big and athletic, Trae is going to be given debits for the lack of those things.
6'3"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'9"
I also see what you're saying about chris paul, tony parker, patty mills, etc. But Patty Mills was drafted in 2009. Chris Paul in 2005. Tony Parker in 1978. Chris Paul was drafted 4th, but Tony Parker was drafted 28th. Patty Mills was drafted 55th.
Trae will make the NBA, and I think he will be a very good player. I just also think he's got a steep hill to climb to work his way into the top 10 of the draft based on what the NBA values. I also think the Big 12 is going to beat him up physically, and there's no way he can sustain these numbers against a night in/night out beating from big, physical guards.
Consider this guy: Big 12 player of the year, Wooden Award Winner
21ppg
4 rpg
5apg
50% fg
47% 3pt
He did that against maybe the best schedule in the nation. He's 5'11" and was drafted 34th overall. He's also the only player under 6'3" to win the Wooden award in the last 12 years.
The NBA values size and jumping ability. Trae's speed is going to mean something, but where guys like Bamba from Texas are going to get a ton of credit just for being big and athletic, Trae is going to be given debits for the lack of those things.
The only way to have any sort of inkling to the "will he stay or go" question is if you had some insight to his personal motivations/situation. I certainly don't. I know Coach is a trusted source around here (with good reason) and it appears he is of the mindset that the NBA is VERY much on TY's radar in the very near future. This could also be another reason he chose OU-- knows he doesn't plan to stick around long so he wanted to enjoy it, be close to home, and play somewhere where he could totally showcase his skills-- at KU it's more likely he would have more reins strapped on his game.
As a lifelong die-hard NBA fan, I do see some issues for TY in terms of making the leap. It's not just that he is short-- he is also SLIGHT. He just a very small person in terms of basketball players at the highest level. Heck, there are times when Westbrook's lack of size is an issue for him and he is much taller and MUCH wider/thicker/stronger than TY.
Even though the league is trending smaller/faster/less physical I could still see TY getting very eaten-up right now, especially having to guard players like John Wall or Russell.
He can't do anything about his height. That isn't changing (unless he hits a late spurt of course). So if that is the ONLY thing holding him back, then that's kind of silly. Might as well go. But I don't think it's JUST height. I also think it's overall size and strength. And the more he plays, the more seasoned he will become overall.
Again, not knowing his situation, if I'm advising TY right now I'd probably say that his focus should be on this year with an eye on probably playing his sophomore year as well and THEN getting a real evaluation of where he stands. My question is always this-- is the goal to GET to the NBA, period? Is the goal to go as high as possible in the draft? And how much does it matter to the player that he is READY to play/contribute immediately? You'd have to know the answer's directly from TY.
As a lifelong die-hard NBA fan, I do see some issues for TY in terms of making the leap. It's not just that he is short-- he is also SLIGHT. He just a very small person in terms of basketball players at the highest level. Heck, there are times when Westbrook's lack of size is an issue for him and he is much taller and MUCH wider/thicker/stronger than TY.
Even though the league is trending smaller/faster/less physical I could still see TY getting very eaten-up right now, especially having to guard players like John Wall or Russell.
He can't do anything about his height. That isn't changing (unless he hits a late spurt of course). So if that is the ONLY thing holding him back, then that's kind of silly. Might as well go. But I don't think it's JUST height. I also think it's overall size and strength. And the more he plays, the more seasoned he will become overall.
Again, not knowing his situation, if I'm advising TY right now I'd probably say that his focus should be on this year with an eye on probably playing his sophomore year as well and THEN getting a real evaluation of where he stands. My question is always this-- is the goal to GET to the NBA, period? Is the goal to go as high as possible in the draft? And how much does it matter to the player that he is READY to play/contribute immediately? You'd have to know the answer's directly from TY.
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