If You Were the AD at Any School

[SoonerNorm]

What requirement(s) would you place on your coaches?

 

[MsProudSooner]

In order of priority:

1) Graduate players
2) No trouble with the NCAA
3) Stay in the top half of the conference at a minimum
4) Represent the school in a professional manner.

 

[SoonerNorm]

My list is very similar to MPS.

Win
Graduate players
Do it the right way

 

[35TangoTango]

1. Win. Not necessarily win it all, but win a lot.

1a. Generate good publicity for yourself, your team, and your school.

2. Stay in good with NCAA

3. Graduate players

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Win. That's what you're paid to do.

Good Pub

Keep NCAA off our backs

No excuses

 

[inoref]

I agree with what has been posted, I might add the winning record should reflect on how well the coach is being paid...If you paying top dollar one should expect the same results on the court.

 

[soonerstar]

I agree with what has been posted, I might add the winning record should reflect on how well the coach is being paid...If you paying top dollar one should expect the same results on the court.

Exactly!

 

[sybarite]

I agree with what has been posted, I might add the winning record should reflect on how well the coach is being paid...If you paying top dollar one should expect the same results on the court.

If Joe C. and Boren pay Sherri more than you think she is worth, why would they do that?

 

[scrybe]

Why has the salary of the OU women's basketball coach become a personal affront to some? I imagine SC received her current salary because the university wanted to show its appreciation for Sherri having taken the program to a level it had never come close to reaching prior to her hiring. At least that seems like a reasonable assumption to me.

But some apparently believe Sherri's paycheck should be adjusted each year to reflect an amount they believe is merited by her win/loss record that particular season. Using that logic, would a Top 10 ranking at the end of the season merit a nice raise? Should Coale be paid as much as/more than Stoops or Kruger if her team wins a NC? And if her Sooners fall below Top 5 in the conference on a given year, should her salary be cut 50 percent? Or would 75 percent send a stronger message that she'd better shape up?

In my opinion, Sherri Coale's present salary is commensurate with the contributions she's made to the university during her two decades as women's coach.

 

[Soonerbay]

I guess GAuriemma (and his agent...Lindsey Kagawa Colas) are happy about SC's and others salary. It made their negotiations easy. Actually one could have the opinion that he's underpaid when comparing apples to apples (recruiting, development, revenue, attendance, year to year rankings, FF's and NC's, etc).

Sidebar...Kagawa Colas is the "Geno" of women's basketball agents. She represents Paris, Robinson, Griner, Taurasi, etc. She is a former Stanford VB player.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/ex.../en/personnumber/19973/persontype/A/prof.html


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...Labor-and-Agents/Women-In-Representation.aspx

 

[tycat947]

Why has the salary of the OU women's basketball coach become a personal affront to some? I imagine SC received her current salary because the university wanted to show its appreciation for Sherri having taken the program to a level it had never come close to reaching prior to her hiring. At least that seems like a reasonable assumption to me.

But some apparently believe Sherri's paycheck should be adjusted each year to reflect an amount they believe is merited by her win/loss record that particular season. Using that logic, would a Top 10 ranking at the end of the season merit a nice raise? Should Coale be paid as much as/more than Stoops or Kruger if her team wins a NC? And if her Sooners fall below Top 5 in the conference on a given year, should her salary be cut 50 percent? Or would 75 percent send a stronger message that she'd better shape up?

In my opinion, Sherri Coale's present salary is commensurate with the contributions she's made to the university during her two decades as women's coach.

Your opinion AND Boren's and Castiglione's as well, much to the ire of some! :ez-laugh:

 

[sybarite]

Your opinion AND Boren's and Castiglione's as well, much to the ire of some! :ez-laugh:

You mean she's not holding them at gunpoint?

 

[inoref]

Last I heard OU women basketball lost $1.6 million dollars, that was few years ago. These are tough times and tough decisions have to made. I think each new contract should be judge by what took place during that time...that is all

 

[sybarite]

I assume that you are angry with Joe Castiglione and David Boren for paying Sherri so much. I guess that I can understand to some extent. I don't quite know why a football coach who hasn't won a national title at OU in sixteen years (the longest dry spell since 1950) is paid what---$6 million? We have a history of winning national titles in football, and other coaches have done it six times in about 36 years. They say it is parity. But, one coach has won it four times at two different schools, and another has won it three times at two different schools since we won. I guess that I'll leave it to Boren and Castiglione. They have their reasons.

But, exactly who had taken OU women to a Final Four? Sweet Sixteen?

And, yes, it DOES matter that OU cancelled the program.

But, let's look at some of the major powers of women's basketball of as recently as 2000:

Colorado: 2-16 in the Pacific Twelve, 7-23 overall

Texas Tech: won a national title just before becoming a part of the Big Twelve (1993), 3-15 in Big Twelve, 13-18 overall

Kansas: 0-18 in the Big Twelve, 6-25 overall

Mississippi: eliminated us when we had Courtney, 2-14 in the SEC, 10-20 overall

LSU: went to four straight Final Fours. 3-13 in SEC, 10-21 overall

Tennessee: how many national titles, different coach, 8-8 in the SEC, 19-13 overall

USC: national title a couple of times, how long since they have been relevant? 6-12 in the Pacific 12, 19-13 overall.

New Mexico: Filled the drum. 9-9 in the Mountain West, 17-13 overall

Rutgers: same coach, down a lot, 8-10 in Big Ten, 18-14 overall

North Carolina: 4-12 in the ACC, 14-18 overall, this happened quickly

Duke: They are still recruiting strongly, 8-8 in the ACC, 20-12 overall.

It's difficult to stay on top. It takes commitment by the coach and the institution.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Very, very interesting, Syb.

Kind of puts things in perspective doesn't it? It is hard to win consistently at a high level - without getting caught at cheating in recruiting as some have resorted to."

If I was an AD I guarantee you I would immediately fire a coach who was sanctioned for serious recruiting violations. A university's response to that tells you all you need to know about the school's value system.

 

[tycat947]

Very, very interesting, Syb.

Kind of puts things in perspective doesn't it? It is hard to win consistently at a high level - without getting caught at cheating in recruiting as some have resorted to."

If I was an AD I guarantee you I would immediately fire a coach who was sanctioned for serious recruiting violations. A university's response to that tells you all you need to know about the school's value system.

+1

 

[SoonerSpock]

Very, very interesting, Syb.

Kind of puts things in perspective doesn't it? It is hard to win consistently at a high level - without getting caught at cheating in recruiting as some have resorted to."

If I was an AD I guarantee you I would immediately fire a coach who was sanctioned for serious recruiting violations. A university's response to that tells you all you need to know about the school's value system.

The recruiting violation that Kim did that has so many here upset was classified as a minor violation with no major penalties. Now if you want to be upset because a coach with major recruiting violations was not fired perhaps you should look at OU who had major violation in 1956 and 1960 under Bud Wilkinson. In 1973 for violations under Chuck Fairbanks and in bout 1980 and 1988 under Barry Switzer with Barry resigning after the 1988 incidents.

By my count OU looked the other way when their coach had major violations in 1956, 1960, 1973 and 1980. When has Baylor looked the other way after one of their coaches was in charge during major violations as defined by the NCAA?

http://www.soonersblog.com/2007/07/history-of-oklahoma-ncaa-major.html

I can understand not liking Kim for her coaching style and some of her antics but trying to make her out to be without morals or ethics is nothing more than most manifesting their jealousy because she consistently kicks Sherri's butt. For certain sitting with parents of players on her daughter's team at their games is a far cry from improper transportation, extra benefits, improper recruiting inducements, improper financial aid, outside fund, lack of institutional control, improper lodging, excessive number of official visits, excessive time for official visits, academic fraud, eligibility issues, unethical conduct, improper financial aid, improper entertainment, complimentary tickets, improper employment and lack of certification of compliance.

Personally if Sherri can beat Mulkey 25% of the time over the next 10 years I will be totally surprised. Kim consistently out recruits Sherri and out coaches Sherri. Sherri's one win and thirteen losses over the last seven years confirms those facts.

 

[MsProudSooner]

The recruiting violation that Kim did that has so many here upset was classified as a minor violation with no major penalties. Now if you want to be upset because a coach with major recruiting violations was not fired perhaps you should look at OU who had major violation in 1956 and 1960 under Bud Wilkinson. In 1973 for violations under Chuck Fairbanks and in bout 1980 and 1988 under Barry Switzer with Barry resigning after the 1988 incidents.

By my count OU looked the other way when their coach had major violations in 1956, 1960, 1973 and 1980. When has Baylor looked the other way after one of their coaches was in charge during major violations as defined by the NCAA?

http://www.soonersblog.com/2007/07/history-of-oklahoma-ncaa-major.html

That's pathetic. You had to go back between 36 and 60 years to be able to make that post. That's really reaching in an effort to make OU look bad and Baylor look good.

I'm not sure where rape falls in the plethora of NCAA rules and regulations but there's been an epidemic of it going around Waco athletic department lately as has been documented by ESPN. To use OU as an example, an OU football player had no charges filed against him but was still suspended for a year. Baylor doesn't even acknowledge that a player had raped a girl until he was convicted. If they are ignoring rape, they are more than likely ignoring NCAA violations, too.

 

[tycat947]

That's pathetic. You had to go back between 36 and 60 years to be able to make that post. That's really reaching in an effort to make OU look bad and Baylor look good.

I'm not sure where rape falls in the plethora of NCAA rules and regulations but there's been an epidemic of it going around Waco athletic department lately as has been documented by ESPN. To use OU as an example, an OU football player had no charges filed against him but was still suspended for a year. Baylor doesn't even acknowledge that a player had raped a girl until he was convicted. If they are ignoring rape, they are more than likely ignoring NCAA violations, too.

+1!

 

[annabelle]

That's pathetic. You had to go back between 36 and 60 years to be able to make that post. That's really reaching in an effort to make OU look bad and Baylor look good.

I'm not sure where rape falls in the plethora of NCAA rules and regulations but there's been an epidemic of it going around Waco athletic department lately as has been documented by ESPN. To use OU as an example, an OU football player had no charges filed against him but was still suspended for a year. Baylor doesn't even acknowledge that a player had raped a girl until he was convicted. If they are ignoring rape, they are more than likely ignoring NCAA violations, too.

what do the rape allegations have to do with Kim & her team?