Joe Lunardi's Bracketology has us back to 3 seed
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Caliper just agreed to a $7.5 million per year extension. Texas could easily match that. The thing with Stevens in the NBA, you either have Lebron, Dirk, Tim Duncan, Kobe, KD, etc in their prime or you don't. You are completely at the mercy of the draft "lottery" and no amount of coaching matters materially.
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You're not okay with Lon making more than JB or RW, but your fair pay antenna didn't go up when you saw that Travis Ford and Rick Barnes make more than Lon Kruger? What about John Beilein or Josh Pastner? What have they done to earn that kind of money? Michigan and Memphis are awful this season.
Not that LK doesn't deserve what he makes, but I was a little surprised that he earns more than JB and RW myself. Having said that, I think there are lots of other head scratchers on that list.
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Fair pay always cracks me up. If we could have gotten LK for $3M, we would have. But it took $5M, b/c of a variety of factors. Joe C. really wanted LK given the shape our program was in. So LK becomes worth $5M at that point. It certainly isn't hurting OU to pay him that.
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I don't think Kruger makes less than Ford or Barnes.
Kruger is 2.75M this year.
Ford is 2.225M this year
Barnes is 2.485M this year.
That list on USA today is a year old
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You may be right, I didn't bother to look at the date. I'm not all that interested or concerned about what a coach makes, and if it's fair when compared to other coaches. IMO, they all make too much money.
I have no intentions of starting a discussion about how unfair it is compared to the hard-working people who deserve more than they make. I'll just summarize by saying there is no way to justify most of the coaching salaries on this list and let it go at that. What the heck where college administrators thinking when they sat by and allowed coaching salaries to get this high? :facepalm
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Oh for sure but that just kinda caught my eye. We know the story on Travis F and Barnes has led Texas to a final 4 and some decent finishes in the tourney and has been at Texas for a long time making it understandable in the fact that he would get raises. But Kruger just got hired 4 years ago and already makes more then Roy and Jim. I just don't understand how those guys haven't been like "F you guys if your not paying top level then I'm not sticking around." I mean if KU pays what they do for Self how and why in the hell is Roy at UNC? How did they not say "hey if you stay we will double whatever UNC is going to pay you." I'm just shocked. Maybe I'm missing something but this stuff is just not adding up.
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And just as a note I think Lon deserves every penny he gets paid! Haha I just think guys like Jim B and Roy W deserve top dollar for what they've done for their respective school.
They were thinking about supply and demand. College sports brings a lot of money and exposure to a university. So they pay what it takes to get that athletic exposure.
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http://www.tsmplay.com/top10/highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches/
Now I'm starting to think this may not be as concrete on what coaches actually make...this is the 2015 version.
John Calipari University of Kentucky $4 Million
Bill Self University of Kansas $3 Million
Tom Izzo Michigan State $3.4 Million
Billy Donovan University of Florida $3.3 Million
Thad Matta Ohio State $2.5 Million
Rick Pitino Louisville $2.25 Million
Mike Krzyzewski Duke. $2.2 Million
Ben Howland UCLA. $2 Million
Roy Williams North Carolina $2 Million
Rick Barnes Texas $2 Million
Now I'm starting to think this may not be as concrete on what coaches actually make...this is the 2015 version.
John Calipari University of Kentucky $4 Million
Bill Self University of Kansas $3 Million
Tom Izzo Michigan State $3.4 Million
Billy Donovan University of Florida $3.3 Million
Thad Matta Ohio State $2.5 Million
Rick Pitino Louisville $2.25 Million
Mike Krzyzewski Duke. $2.2 Million
Ben Howland UCLA. $2 Million
Roy Williams North Carolina $2 Million
Rick Barnes Texas $2 Million
What's your version of the story? Mine is that OSU is a desperate poorly run operation and signed the worst coach in the conference, a guy with only 1 NCAA win in his career, to a pathetically bad contract.
Is it your version that since Ford was not caught urinating on grade school playgrounds, getting DUI's or indicted on felony drug charges he was a keeper who deserved that contract?
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These numbers look better than the USA Today numbers. I thought football coaches made more than basketball coaches.
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Roy and Jim may not care all that much. I am not saying they wouldn't want or accept more but it may not be their personality to demand top dollar. They might actually be really happy where they are having to live on $2,000,000 a year or whatever it is they make.
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Personally, I hope Holder feels Ford is worth every penny they are paying him and more. Never Leave Travis
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Haha the first!
I have no intention of pointing out what a dumbass you are.
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Seems to me that is exactly what you did.
I understand why there is a "my coach makes more than your coach" mentality in college sports. I also know that schools need their sports programs to generate revenue. I'm still not convinced coaches deserve the kind of money they make.
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If Ada is a dumbass, then so am I. I love college sports as much as anyone and more than most, but they have gotten too big, too driven by money, and yes, the salaries have climbed far too high. That hasn't stopped me from cheering my Sooners on as fervently as ever, but it does make me cringe at times when I pause to recognize how out of proportion college sports -- especially football and basketball -- have gotten.
We are still talking about universities here, educational institutions, and the young men and women we root for are still college students. It's in part because I live so far away that I don't get to games (and also, perhaps, because I've reached the age when the years pass far too quickly -- when something that I am almost certain happened a mere five years ago in fact occurred ten or twelve years ago) but it seems crazy to me that a major renovation is going to take place at Memorial Stadium, when the last major renovation was not so very long ago, in the grand scheme of things. And not only is it going to happen, but the general sense about it when it was announced was that it is long overdue (!). And the new athletic dorm -- did we not just build an athletic dorm a relatively few years ago?
Some will rush to point out how vitally important to recruiting facilities are, that we have to match -- no, outdo -- this school or that one, or we'll never attract another decent player, and heaven knows, I want OU to be competitive in every sport and in the bigger sports, more than competitive. But something's out of whack, with all the money that's spent. I thank my lucky fan's stars that our athletic department is self-supporting, that no money from the university goes to fund it, because I'd have trouble putting it all out of my mind and just focusing on the teams, the games, if it were not so.
But OU is in a tiny minority in that regard. The genie is out of the bottle in college sports, and there's probably no way to stuff it back in, barring some major system-wide collapse, but things have gotten out of whack -- even I, a huge college sports fan, can't deny it.
We are still talking about universities here, educational institutions, and the young men and women we root for are still college students. It's in part because I live so far away that I don't get to games (and also, perhaps, because I've reached the age when the years pass far too quickly -- when something that I am almost certain happened a mere five years ago in fact occurred ten or twelve years ago) but it seems crazy to me that a major renovation is going to take place at Memorial Stadium, when the last major renovation was not so very long ago, in the grand scheme of things. And not only is it going to happen, but the general sense about it when it was announced was that it is long overdue (!). And the new athletic dorm -- did we not just build an athletic dorm a relatively few years ago?
Some will rush to point out how vitally important to recruiting facilities are, that we have to match -- no, outdo -- this school or that one, or we'll never attract another decent player, and heaven knows, I want OU to be competitive in every sport and in the bigger sports, more than competitive. But something's out of whack, with all the money that's spent. I thank my lucky fan's stars that our athletic department is self-supporting, that no money from the university goes to fund it, because I'd have trouble putting it all out of my mind and just focusing on the teams, the games, if it were not so.
But OU is in a tiny minority in that regard. The genie is out of the bottle in college sports, and there's probably no way to stuff it back in, barring some major system-wide collapse, but things have gotten out of whack -- even I, a huge college sports fan, can't deny it.
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