Korcheck confirms he will sign with Arizona

[bgrch1350]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Truth is, nothing anyone says will convince you that any player or recruit Kruger brings in is good enough. Am I reading you right?

The problem is that you think just b/c he brings them in...their automatic all-stars. I've seen Spangler play...He has shown me nothing that he can compete against solid post players...but since he is local...you want him. I've seen Stevie Clark play...He's the real deal...I hope we land him. I've seen M'Baye play...I'm glad we got him, but from what I saw from him with my own 2 eyes at Wyoming...He's not starting for us. Now I might be proven wrong on him, which I would be happy with, but I saw him compete in the MWC last year and I'm suppose to give in that he's a good 3pt shooter now when he was horrible last year.

 

[bgrch1350]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

A trend so obvious it reeks of a personal agenda with every post he makes.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I will support that belief with every part of my being. But when a poster finds fault with every player and recruit under Lon Kruger's watch, I'm not going to stay quiet and allow the carnage to continue. I did that for several months before I finally had enough.

Good, Support It! I give a reason for not supporting Korchek and Spangler and you answer with these childish remarks. I rather you say something that isn't childish and answer with why you want Korcheck or Spangler or any other recruit. I get the fact that your in love with Kruger, but I just want you to explain why you like these recruits so much. I saw Hardrick play several times in high school...I didn't need him to come here to know that he was not good enough to compete in this league...but I'm sure if he went to Gonzaga or Wichita St first, you would want him to come here so that he could have something to prove.

 

[AdaSooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Good, Support It! I give a reason for not supporting Korchek and Spangler and you answer with these childish remarks. I rather you say something that isn't childish and answer with why you want Korcheck or Spangler or any other recruit. I get the fact that your in love with Kruger, but I just want you to explain why you like these recruits so much.

You're the one with the reading comprehension of a fifth grader.

Did you actually read my post, or did you jump all over what I said about Spangler and assume that he is at the top of my recruiting wish list? Let me spell it out for you. Nothing we say or think about recruiting means a hill of beans to Lon Kruger and his staff, nor should it.

My point was simply this. Given the choice between a juco player with two years of eligibility left, I would take a local kid in Spangler who still has four years to play three. And I said the same thing before Korcheck committed to Zona.

Does that mean I will be satisfied with what the Korchecks and Spanglers have to offer our program? Of course not. I'm smart enough to know that you have to recruit better players if you want to compete with the rest of the Big 12.

You should also keep in mind that Spangler to OU is nothing more than a rumor at this point. But if LK thinks that he can help the team, I'm fine with it. Every team needs role players. Besides, what other choice do we have? He doesn't care what I think, and he definintely wouldn't be interested in your ramblings.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Your right...I wouldn't be happy with either player. You guys sit here and complain about Neal and Arent and you want to add another Neal and another Arent. Its like you guys like being at the bottom of the big 12. I'm not happy settling for players that could only possibly start for TCU and T.T. and knowing that they wouldn't start for any other big 12 team. My expectations are that if K-st, Baylor, Colorado, UNLV, aTm, Houston, Providence, Iowa St....can land unanimous top 100 players than we should be able to land 1.

Local kids have nothing more to play for than any other recruit...that is just you giving yourself an excuse to want them to come here. Xavier Henry, Daniel Orton, Shelden Williams, Darnell Jackson, Etan Thomas, Keiton Page, JR Giddens...These guys wouldn't have given anymore here than they gave some where else. If Henry or Orton came here...its not like they would have worked any harder or felt like they had to prove something more. If Neal was at Kansas right now...he wouldn't feel like he had anything less to prove or he wouldn't work just as hard to become a better player. If you think that if Spangler comes here that he's going to work even harder than he did at Gonzaga or that he's going to become a better player just b/c he came home is just silly

Well, it was your boy Capel who put us at the bottom of the big 12. You were ready for him to return this year and yet every one of his recruiting classes, with the exception of 2-3 recruits were flat out terrible. If Spangler were from the east coast, you would be clamoring for us to get him.

 

[bgrch1350]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

You're the one with the reading comprehension of a fifth grader.
Did you actually read my post, or did you jump all over what I said about Spangler and assume that he is at the top of my recruiting wish list? Let me spell it out for you. Nothing we say or think about recruiting means a hill of beans to Lon Kruger and his staff, nor should it.

My point was simply this. Given the choice between a juco player with two years of eligibility left, I would take a local kid in Spangler who still has four years to play three. And I said the same thing before Korcheck committed to Zona.

Does that mean I will be satisfied with what the Korchecks and Spanglers have to offer our program? Of course not. I'm smart enough to know that you have to recruit better players if you want to compete with the rest of the Big 12.

I read your post. And maybe you should read mine instead of constantly giving your childish remarks. Let me say it again. I've seen Spangler play..rumor or not...I don't want him. I'm glad Korcheck didn't choose us. If it came between choosing Korcheck(juco with 2 years) or Spangler(transfer with 3 years)...I choose the ladder and not use the scholarship on either player and save it for a player that will actually contribute.

 

[bgrch1350]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Well, it was your boy Capel who put us at the bottom of the big 12. You were ready for him to return this year and yet every one of his recruiting classes, with the exception of 2-3 recruits were flat out terrible. If Spangler were from the east coast, you would be clamoring for us to get him.QUOTE]

Your right about Capel...He took us to the elite 8 and then it went down hill. Did I want hm this year...Yes, mainly b/c why let him go thru a rebuilding year last season to not let him coach the following season. They should have just fired him before last season b/c when we lost everyone it was obvious that last season was going to be a rebuilding one.

If Spangler was a scholarship player at UNC...I wouldn't want him.

 

[originalsooner55]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Well, it was your boy Capel who put us at the bottom of the big 12. You were ready for him to return this year and yet every one of his recruiting classes, with the exception of 2-3 recruits were flat out terrible. If Spangler were from the east coast, you would be clamoring for us to get him.QUOTE]

Your right about Capel...He took us to the elite 8 and then it went down hill. Did I want hm this year...Yes, mainly b/c why let him go thru a rebuilding year last season to not let him coach the following season. They should have just fired him before last season b/c when we lost everyone it was obvious that last season was going to be a rebuilding one.

If Spangler was a scholarship player at UNC...I wouldn't want him.

I take it you did not watch Spangler against WV in the NCAA Tourn., he had the most rebounds between both team with only 21 min. of play and I guess you didn't watch the State HS Tourn(4A) last year when Spangler almost single handed beat Douglas. There are always Haters and I guess you are one of them. I am a very big OU Fan and I personally hope it is not a rumor and LK lands Spangler.

 

[bgrch1350]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

I take it you did not watch Spangler against WV in the NCAA Tourn., he had the most rebounds between both team with only 21 min. of play and I guess you didn't watch the State HS Tourn(4A) last year when Spangler almost single handed beat Douglas. There are always Haters and I guess you are one of them. I am a very big OU Fan and I personally hope it is not a rumor and LK lands Spangler.

Wow...8 rebounds. Gonzaga killed a 19-14 W.V. team by 23pts and he got 4pts and 8 rebounds.

How did he do against a ranked St. Marys team when the game went into overtime??? He played 1 minute.

How did he do in the game right after W.V. when they played Ohio St??? Nothing! Few was so impressed with Spanglers 8 rebounds that he decided that he should play 2 minutes the very next game.

Casey Arent had 9 rebounds in 10 minutes against S Carolina St....He must be an all star.

 

[boksooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Wow...8 rebounds. Gonzaga killed a 19-14 W.V. team by 23pts and he got 4pts and 8 rebounds.

How did he do against a ranked St. Marys team when the game went into overtime??? He played 1 minute.

How did he do in the game right after W.V. when they played Ohio St??? Nothing! Few was so impressed with Spanglers 8 rebounds that he decided that he should play 2 minutes the very next game.

Casey Arent had 9 rebounds in 10 minutes against S Carolina St....He must be an all star.

You had a decent argument before your last sentence. The game against S. Car St. was not a tournament game, so it is in no way relevant to the argument.

 

[WTSooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

You had a decent argument before your last sentence. The game against S. Car St. was not a tournament game, so it is in no way relevant to the argument.

Because tournament games are a measure of playing talent?

Alex Spaulding had a very nice tournament game for OU once.

 

[boksooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Because tournament games are a measure of playing talent?

Alex Spaulding had a very nice tournament game for OU once.

No, because the argument made was that Spangler was the leading rebounder in a tournament game against good competition. I made no judgement on the validity of that argument, but countering it with an example of Casey Arent doing something in a glorified exhibition game is clearly an invalid argument.

 

[WTSooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

No, because the argument made was that Spangler was the leading rebounder in a tournament game against good competition. I made no judgement on the validity of that argument, but countering it with an example of Casey Arent doing something in a glorified exhibition game is clearly an invalid argument.

I would argue that trying to use ONE game, against anybody in any situation, to evaluate a player is an invalid argument.

But that is just me.

 

[boksooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

I would argue that trying to use ONE game, against anybody in any situation, to evaluate a player is an invalid argument.

But that is just me.

Do you agree that what is accomplished in the NCAA tournament is more significant than what occurs in the preseason? That is my only argument. I feel like you are arguing with me about something someone else posted/believes.

 

[WTSooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Do you agree that what is accomplished in the NCAA tournament is more significant than what occurs in the preseason? That is my only argument. I feel like you are arguing with me about something someone else posted/believes.

More significant? Sure. A better way to measure potential, or talent? Not really.

I know you didn't make the point that I am arguing against. You are just caught in the crossfire.

 

[boksooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

More significant? Sure. A better way to measure potential, or talent? Not really.

I know you didn't make the point that I am arguing against. You are just caught in the crossfire.

I would disagree with you. What a player does in the NCAA Tournament versus quality competition is a much better evaluation than what a player does in the preseason against inferior competition. I don't understand how that is even a question. I am not saying that one game is ever a "good" way to evaluate talent, but one is clearly better than the other.

 

[WTSooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

I would disagree with you. What a player does in the NCAA Tournament versus quality competition is a much better evaluation than what a player does in the preseason against inferior competition. I don't understand how that is even a question. I am not saying that one game is ever a "good" way to evaluate talent, but one is clearly better than the other.

Because it's just ONE game. One game means nothing when it comes to player evaluation. Small sample size. Fluke. And all that other stuff. Like I said, Spaulding's best game at OU was in the NCAA Tourney. Other than that, he wasn't a very good player for us. That one game, while VERY helpful in advancing our team, doesn't make him a good player. It means he had a good game. JMO.

 

[boksooner]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

Because it's just ONE game. One game means nothing when it comes to player evaluation. Small sample size. Fluke. And all that other stuff. Like I said, Spaulding's best game at OU was in the NCAA Tourney. Other than that, he wasn't a very good player for us. That one game, while VERY helpful in advancing our team, doesn't make him a good player. It means he had a good game. JMO.

You either cannot understand my argument or are willfully disregarding it in favor of arguing something else, so I do not see any reason for this discussion to continue.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Re: Korcheck to Arizona?

I think its pretty simple: There is an agreement that one game is not an adequate sample size to determine whether a player is "good" or not, but since one game has been thrown out as the sample size, a "good" game in the NCAA Tournament is probably a better indicator in the aggregate than a "good" game against a cream-puff in the second game of the season.