Marcus Smart is a flopping piece of dirt

[SoonerBounce13]

I've seen people ejected for less and I hope the league does look at that play this week.


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are you talking about the foul on heild at the end? It was an obvious flop by smart and an elbow but I don't think he meant to elbow him, just create contact. I don't think it deserved an ejection much less a technical.

 

[playmakr]

are you talking about the foul on heild at the end? It was an obvious flop by smart and an elbow but I don't think he meant to elbow him, just create contact. I don't think it deserved an ejection much less a technical.

He was creating contact with his arm/elbow in Buddy's face, neck area? This is a standard type of basketball play?

Always remember time and score for context as well.

He knew exactly what he was doing, and we know this based on what we see in all the other games he plays.

 

[WTSooner]

Tough to call a deadball foul on Smart there, nothing conclusive that Hield's contact didn't cause the motion (even though I think Smart threw it on purpose).

OU shot 20 more free throws than OSU last night, not much for us to complain about in that regard.

Agreed.

Smart put the elbow on Hield, then swung his entire arm.

At worst that is a Flagrant 1 with no ejection. The more I watch it, I don't have a problem with no call. Definitely not a Flagrant 2. Those of you that think it's that, need to go watch some more college games. The Flagrant 1's are almost never called, and when they are, they are much worse than that.

 

[DenverSooner]

He was creating contact with his arm/elbow in Buddy's face, neck area? This is a standard type of basketball play?

Always remember time and score for context as well.

He knew exactly what he was doing, and we know this based on what we see in all the other games he plays.

I agree. I don't think Smart was trying to elbow him in the face. I think he was just upset they lost and through a little elbow to the body that got him in the neck/face. That is a flagrant foul. Intent to hit the face or neck isn't necessary

 

[steverocks35]

Agreed.

Smart put the elbow on Hield, then swung his entire arm.

At worst that is a Flagrant 1 with no ejection. The more I watch it, I don't have a problem with no call. Definitely not a Flagrant 2. Those of you that think it's that, need to go watch some more college games. The Flagrant 1's are almost never called, and when they are, they are much worse than that.

I like how after Smart threw his arm into Hield he acted like he had been shot with a giant body contortion to the right away from him. Made me laugh. What was the point of that at that time in the game?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

He was creating contact with his arm/elbow in Buddy's face, neck area? This is a standard type of basketball play?

Always remember time and score for context as well.

He knew exactly what he was doing, and we know this based on what we see in all the other games he plays.

I think he knew he was extending his elbow but don't think he meant to hit the face/neck. just trying to create contact.

 

[playmakr]

Agreed.

Smart put the elbow on Hield, then swung his entire arm.

At worst that is a Flagrant 1 with no ejection. The more I watch it, I don't have a problem with no call. Definitely not a Flagrant 2. Those of you that think it's that, need to go watch some more college games. The Flagrant 1's are almost never called, and when they are, they are much worse than that.

Smart is, well, smart and sneaky enough to not get a Flagrant called on him in that situation. But, that doesn't change the fact that it was intentional and part of a pattern for him.

Time and score.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

after watching again
https://vine.co/v/MuHeVp1qhJv

Maybe he did know what he was doing. lol

 

[playmakr]

I agree. I don't think Smart was trying to elbow him in the face. I think he was just upset they lost and through a little elbow to the body that got him in the neck/face. That is a flagrant foul. Intent to hit the face or neck isn't necessary

Yea it would be impossible to prove he was trying for anything above the shoulders, but it was very obvious given the context of when it occurred he was at least trying to throw his weight around and punk Buddy. But, his history of sneaky/dirty play still makes he question how deep the intent went. I think a Flagrant 1 is certainly called for. Certainly not Smart shooting FT's my goodness.

I tell you, I just watched it again and given Smart's sneakiness and dirty play talents, I think he was indeed going for an elbow/arm bar as high as he could get away with it. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. This is what he does.

 

[stormspencer]

I agree. I don't think Smart was trying to elbow him in the face. I think he was just upset they lost and through a little elbow to the body that got him in the neck/face. That is a flagrant foul. Intent to hit the face or neck isn't necessary

This is correct. Intent has nothing to do with getting a flagrant 1. If you are reckless with flailing/elbows/hands and you make contact above the neck....the rules dictate that it is a flagrant 1 foul. If you are perceived to be intentionally doing this, it is a flagrant 2.

Having said that, I'm not upset with the officiating last night. As mentioned above, we shot 20 more FTs then they did.

 

[WTSooner]

But, that doesn't change the fact that it was intentional and part of a pattern for him.

I don't disagree with that at all.

 

[campbest]

Yea it would be impossible to prove he was trying for anything above the shoulders, but it was very obvious given the context of when it occurred he was at least trying to throw his weight around and punk Buddy. But, his history of sneaky/dirty play still makes he question how deep the intent went. I think a Flagrant 1 is certainly called for. Certainly not Smart shooting FT's my goodness.

I tell you, I just watched it again and given Smart's sneakiness and dirty play talents, I think he was indeed going for an elbow/arm bar as high as he could get away with it.

Oh I agree 100%, but not sure anyone can justify based on a past experience.

But I do agree with time and situation, there are different variables to consider. In context, I don't think it was a basketball play and he should have been given a flagrant 1, but in the end I can see why they passed on it.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

DId they review it? I can't remember.

 

[p230]

I thought it was pretty clear that Smart was giving the ball to the official. He did the shooting motion but he wasn't shooting it.

Me too, nothing to see there. On the flop in the gif, note how he falls he catches himself on his forearms. Good technique to avoid breaking wrists. He has worked on it.

 

[p230]

DId they review it? I can't remember.

No, Fran was right when he said " the officials just want out of here at this point" Wasn't going to change anything with a few seconds left. That doesn't make it right not to review it though.

 

[steverocks35]

The whining about last night's officiating over at orangepower is reaching hilarious proportions.

 

[campbest]

The whining about last night's officiating over at orangepower is reaching hilarious proportions.

To be fair, if we had 20 fewer free throw attempts than OSU at GIA, this place would be on fire.

 

[AdaSooner]

To be fair, if we had 20 fewer free throw attempts than OSU at GIA, this place would be on fire.

Agreed. There were a few missed calls both ways. But on the whole this was not a poorly officiated game by any means. If anything, OU was the beneficiary of some borderline calls that went our way for a change.

 

[skyvue]

To be fair, if we had 20 fewer free throw attempts than OSU at GIA, this place would be on fire.

True enough, but then we had the lead nearly the whole game. A team with a good-sized lead will tend to be awarded more free throws as the trailing team tries to scrap its way back into the game.

Last season in Stillwater, the aggies had 12 more free throws than we did, despite trailing most of the game. That's a more questionable situation, in my opinion, than last night's game.

 

[scrybe]

Has anyone considered the possibility that our guys shot more free throws simply because OSU players committed more fouls than us?