Marcus Smart is a hell of a player

Oh the Aggie fans that come on here, lol. So who are you all going to hire after Ford gets booted after you miss the tourney again? And I don't want to hear about injury this and injury that - those things happen and you have to win anyhow. We know Self is at KU till he retires or dies so does Holder bring Sutton from ORU or the guy from UT-SanAntonio? Or does he go outside the aggie family like last time.

I have very few doubts that Ford gets the ax this year.
 
Uh, let's wait till he plays against REAL competition. I believe Sunday they will play NC State ranked #6. I know he can do nice things against rumdumbs but seems like when they play tougher teams his game goes down.

Curious as to what you base this on. He's only played 3 games and as you said, none of them tough. So, how has he played anyone tough and how you can know his "game goes down" when he plays tough competition?
 
Curious as to what you base this on. He's only played 3 games and as you said, none of them tough. So, how has he played anyone tough and how you can know his "game goes down" when he plays tough competition?


Excuse me HoHum - multitasking while I was typing - not a strength of mine. When he plays a good team I believe his "game will do down". I'm just saying don't judge someone on playing bad teams. Look in football at WV and their FORMER Heisman candidate. When they were playing bad teams they were great, when they played legit teams they got waxed and their QB is not even on the map anymore, TRUE?
 
Based on what, exactly?

I didn't see the game, but other than his rebounding numbers, I don't see that he has played particularly well. He hasn't shot it all that well. Negative assist to turnover ratio the last two games (combined). Had 4 fouls in the first two games.

I know stats don't always tell the entire story, but I don't see him being their best player. Heck, at the end of the year, I'm not sure his stats will be any better than Hornbeak's.
 
Based on what, exactly?

I didn't see the game, but other than his rebounding numbers, I don't see that he has played particularly well. He hasn't shot it all that well. Negative assist to turnover ratio the last two games (combined). Had 4 fouls in the first two games.

I know stats don't always tell the entire story, but I don't see him being their best player. Heck, at the end of the year, I'm not sure his stats will be any better than Hornbeak's.


His stats arent as bad as you suggest, hes avg 14 pts, 9 rebounds, 5 assist, and 3 steals a game through 3 games and is 20/23 from the line.

Have you ever seen Smart play? He affects the game in countless ways
 
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His stats arent as bad as you suggest, hes avg 14 pts, 9 rebounds, 5 assist, and 3 steals a game through 3 games and is 20/23 from the line.

Have you ever seen Smart play? He affects the game in countless ways

Sounds about like Willie Warren with more rebounds and no Blake Griffin. But I'm not about to start that up again lol.
 
Ironic post is ironic.

You are a aggie goob, lol. You all would have fired him last year if Holder hadn't been such a dummy and signed him to such a huge deal when he had done absolutely nothing. Behind the scenes I hear that Holder admits to making a huge mistake with that one. His buyout is more than TBone or Holder wanted to pay. But when you only have 2 or 3,000 butts in the seats they will have to do something, IMO
 
You are a aggie goob, lol. You all would have fired him last year if Holder hadn't been such a dummy and signed him to such a huge deal when he had done absolutely nothing. Behind the scenes I hear that Holder admits to making a huge mistake with that one. His buyout is more than TBone or Holder wanted to pay. But when you only have 2 or 3,000 butts in the seats they will have to do something, IMO

No matter what his buyout is...they never would have fired him last year after the death of Budke.
 
You are a aggie goob, lol. You all would have fired him last year if Holder hadn't been such a dummy and signed him to such a huge deal when he had done absolutely nothing. Behind the scenes I hear that Holder admits to making a huge mistake with that one. His buyout is more than TBone or Holder wanted to pay. But when you only have 2 or 3,000 butts in the seats they will have to do something, IMO

Another ironic post is ironic. LNC is a tomb as well. You can see deer running through it too.

You also obviously didn't get my first point, OU hasn't even made the postseason period since 2009 (NIT or NCAA) yet your ripping OSU's recent postseasons? That's classic. OSU just missed the postseason last year for the first time in a long time. You only have 42 wins combined in the last 3 seasons and haven't even had a winning season since Blake Griffin declared for the draft. That wasn't just yesterday.

I acknowledge our basketball program needs works but we're 2 seasons removed from the NCAA and only one from postseason play, can you say the same?

Stones in glass houses, all I'm sayin'.
 
Another ironic post is ironic. LNC is a tomb as well. You can see deer running through it too.

You also obviously didn't get my first point, OU hasn't even made the postseason period since 2009 (NIT or NCAA) yet your ripping OSU's recent postseasons? That's classic. OSU just missed the postseason last year for the first time in a long time. You only have 42 wins combined in the last 3 seasons and haven't even had a winning season since Blake Griffin declared for the draft. That wasn't just yesterday.

I acknowledge our basketball program needs works but we're 2 seasons removed from the NCAA and only one from postseason play, can you say the same?

Stones in glass houses, all I'm sayin'.

Apples and oranges.

But you already know that.
 
Apples and oranges.

But you already know that.

Not really, your current coach is batting zero on making the post-season and LNC will look like it has the past 3 years this season, same as GIA, until either program starts winning again. Time will tell how it all plays out but right now both are in a low rut and you've been there longer. I personally think both squads can impress this year. Here's to both programs getting back on track!
 
Another ironic post is ironic. LNC is a tomb as well. You can see deer running through it too.

You also obviously didn't get my first point, OU hasn't even made the postseason period since 2009 (NIT or NCAA) yet your ripping OSU's recent postseasons? That's classic. OSU just missed the postseason last year for the first time in a long time. You only have 42 wins combined in the last 3 seasons and haven't even had a winning season since Blake Griffin declared for the draft. That wasn't just yesterday.

I acknowledge our basketball program needs works but we're 2 seasons removed from the NCAA and only one from postseason play, can you say the same?

Stones in glass houses, all I'm sayin'.

Hey Aggie, this coming from a school who has always tried to convince everyone that they are a "basketball" school, lol. You are laughable at best!!!
You are down to bragging about ONLY being 2 years since the tourney (by the way the NIT doesn't count - it is for losers). I believe we know we hired the wrong coach so we FIRED him. Unlike you aggie's - you are hanging on to your coach who has NEVER done anything to speak of but Holder gave him a CRAZY contract - Dumb Holder!!

And be careful about trying to throw Lon under the bus. He is FIVE times the coach Ford ever thought of being. And if you have watched the talent upgrade this year from last you should be scared, lol. Lon will win a Big-12 title in the next few years and Ford will be coaching J.College somewhere. osu will be starting over with a new coach and trying to fill the other 10,000 seats in that over blown arena :-). By the way, your "basketball" school had fewer butts in the seats than our Football school had at our first games. You all also need to figure out how to fill up your football stadium - alot of empty seats there from what I saw today AND you all have yet to sell that baby out in 2 years, LOL
 
LNC is a tomb as well. You can see deer running through it too.

The difference, of course, is that OU fans have never bragged about their fan support in hoops -- quite the opposite. oswho fans, on the other hand...
 
And be careful about trying to throw Lon under the bus. He is FIVE times the coach Ford ever thought of being. And if you have watched the talent upgrade this year from last you should be scared, lol. Lon will win a Big-12 title in the next few years and Ford will be coaching J.College somewhere.

In Lon's 26 seasons he has won ONE regular season conference championship in his entire quarter of a century as a head coach, the Big Ten in 1998. One conference championship 15 years ago when Clinton was in office so good luck with that, the odds and his history aren't exactly on your side. He never even won the Mountain West except the tournament. And yes, we're scared of those monster not top 25 recruiting classes Kruger is pulling in.

Good luck on the season, I got a game to watch.
 
Side Note: Marcus Smart has 16 points against #6 NC-State with 3 minutes to go in the first half.
 
His breakout game is going on right now on ESPN2. Kid's a beast.
 
In Lon's 26 seasons he has won ONE regular season conference championship in his entire quarter of a century as a head coach, the Big Ten in 1998. One conference championship 15 years ago when Clinton was in office so good luck with that, the odds and his history aren't exactly on your side. He never even won the Mountain West except the tournament. And yes, we're scared of those monster not top 25 recruiting classes Kruger is pulling in.

Good luck on the season, I got a game to watch.

yeah i guess we will have other things to look forward too under Kruger that he has accomplished like a Final 4, Elite 8, ect......
 
yeah i guess we will have other things to look forward too under Kruger that he has accomplished like a Final 4, Elite 8, ect......

After this season, it will have been 20 years since either of those things happened.

On a positive spin, since he's a "legendary" coach according to this board, he's probably due.
 
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