MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

Not to be a debby downer (as if this board needed any more), but I have a hard time believing we are going to be a realistic option for Trazarien White. I know he's from Texas but those list of suitors seem to outclass us if they are serious about him.

On the other hand, I'd be very intrigued with Kyky Tandy. I know a lot has been made about Moser not having a plan or consistent player type he's gone after, and to an extent I've agreed with that assessment. However, I am starting to notice a trend of going after a bunch of guys that are damn near elite catch and shoot/spot up scorers.

I actually like that trend too because with the high ball screen PnR offense we run, you have to have guys that are a threat on the perimeter to keep the lane clean. This could open things up considerably. Only problem now is we don't actually have a ball handler good enough to make teams pay for the potential additional space. The give and take of Moser I guess
 
MJSooner said:
Agree with all this. The fact that Moser isn't on SM, sending tweets, or IG posts doesn't mean he's not working his arse off in DMs or texts and calls.

But it also means he and the staff are missing a TREMENDOUS opportunity and tool in the way young adults and college students get information and communicate. Crap, our 80-year-old President is doing Tik Tok videos. As @skyvue said, age and generation are not an excuse. Have to reach them the way they like to be reached.

And if it's not being done, it may not be solely Moser's call or doing. The lack of SM and marketing could get back to the point of lack of admin support- not just from the athletic department and AD, but also marketing. But if he wanted it changed or visibility improved, he could do it, even if it was only from him and the staff.

If the kids communicate that way, and the competition is clearly operating in the SM universe, it's incumbent on him to step it up as well. Regardless if the admin is or not.

And no, it solely won't solve everything, but at least it's a step toward playing on the same field as everyone else. Even if it's the only one, it's still at least a step.
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This. And I'll (probably) end the social media convo after this post, lol. I don't want to bog down the thread more than I have.

I'm not completely dumb. I'm not saying OU's losing basketball games solely because they're dead on social media. I'm also not suggesting that by using social media, OU is all of a sudden going to get back to the tourney.

What I am saying is....other programs are utilizing social media. Whether that's following recruits, posting graphics, gifs, or pushing NIL, whatever. They get that it can have a positive impact. Positivity can impact recruiting. Recruiting the lifeblood of your program. Better recruits = more wins (most of the time lol).

For the last several days (or weeks really), OU fans have been pissed. "We" want everyone associated with MBB fired. Admin, coaches, culinary staff, everyone. All we're seeing is L after L after L. Even the Ws are small Ws (Elvis). When you operate your program like you're in North Korea, we don't see a staff working hard or effectively. All we see is the failing. If that's what we're seeing, that's what recruits, like Pedulla, are seeing. Now, of course, recruits have the chance to talk to coaches and/or visit. But I think it's also very fair to say, they're paying attention to how a program's perceived outwardly. It's a big duh and right now, OU is seen in a negative light. That hurts recruiting, clearly.


Here's a small example....





Coach Hump used social media in fun ways while at ND.

Now, let's circle back to the OU fans being pissed, all we're seeing are Ls convo. Let's say Hump is allowed to post something similar today....would it not be seen as a positive? Would it not create a moment of fun/excitement? Would it not be seen as a staff out there pounding the damn pavement. I assume they are behind-the-scenes (we're seeing OU listed again) but it won't hurt anyone to throw something up on social media as a way to show some of their work. It's very easy stuff to comprehend, really.

Those who have taken part in the TPT threads on Scoop would probably say the best time was when Gundy threw up that airport pic (Jaxson Dart). They didn't land Dart but that was more to do with Gabriel being the starter than anything else. Still, it was exciting. It showed that the coaches are human, like to have fun, and they were out there trying to make the OU football team better.


Would social media not help with NIL? Of course it would!!!! And we all know, by now, MBB needs more money/support. They just got their as*es beaten by St. John's and/or Ole Miss...largely due to money (and perception). Why is OU unable to learn/do this easy chit? I legit don't get it.

Even Kelvin was out there pushing an NIL initiative and Houston is clearly on better footing right now. Why can't Moser do something similar? Why can't OU have an NIL drive to "Bring OU back"? I'm shouting into am empty void, I know.

 
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Quaintance prediction for Louisville from Trilly. Think there was talk about an Onyenso visit for them this weekend.
 
Is Moser stopping Hump from being fun on social media? Where's the OU admin and the big bad OU marketing department with a 'Bring OU Back' marketing NIL push? You appear to be doing a better job than they are! It's also a lot easier to push NIL when winning is happening (see my previous post about winning tending to solve a lot of these so-called 'issues').

I think you and I are on the same side in that we acknowledge there are issues. It appears we disagree in that you lay a lot of this *extracurricular stuff* (gestures wildly) on Moser whereas I see deeper lying issues within the athletic department. And I think that because I look and see how it has been far from puppies and roses for football with NIL, compliance and the administration and getting everything and everyone on the same page there, and that's the crown jewel of the athletic department and the university.

I'll shut up now.
 
Moneyball said:
Sometimes I wonder if I just don’t know ball. I feel like he’s going to disappoint whatever coach ends up getting him. That said, I would welcome him back in a heartbeat
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I think we all wonder this from time to time. (Of ourselves not you specifically) I have players make me look stupid all the time. I've been pretty adamant about how I view both Los and Oweh. Curious to see what they do moving forward with a change of scenery.
 
Moneyball said:
Sometimes I wonder if I just don’t know ball. I feel like he’s going to disappoint whatever coach ends up getting him. That said, I would welcome him back in a heartbeat
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His athleticism lures you in. Then you watch him dribble a basketball and all of that hope evaporates. J/K

He had a terrible season but I think he still has potential and some coach may have success with him.
 
Oweh has the size and athletcism to be a big time player. He could be a star in college, but that player is 2-3 years away. If he were an average athlete, he'd be playing NAIA.
 
Eielson said:
Oweh has the size and athletcism to be a big time player. He could be a star in college, but that player is 2-3 years away. If he were an average athlete, he'd be playing NAIA.
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In all fairness....a LOT of D1 guys would be playing at NAIA if they were average athletes.....athleticism is what MAKES them D1 level rather then lower most of the time. LOL


and do we have to dog NAIA athletes' athleticism? I resemble that remark. LMAO
 
NorthCarolinaSooner said:
In all fairness....a LOT of D1 guys would be playing at NAIA if they were average athletes.....athleticism is what MAKES them D1 level rather then lower most of the time. LOL


and do we have to dog NAIA athletes' athleticism? I resemble that remark. LMAO
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Go watch langston. "Lower level" basketball is still pretty elite.
 
Soonerman said:
Is Moser stopping Hump from being fun on social media? Where's the OU admin and the big bad OU marketing department with a 'Bring OU Back' marketing NIL push? You appear to be doing a better job than they are! It's also a lot easier to push NIL when winning is happening (see my previous post about winning tending to solve a lot of these so-called 'issues').

I think you and I are on the same side in that we acknowledge there are issues. It appears we disagree in that you lay a lot of this *extracurricular stuff* (gestures wildly) on Moser whereas I see deeper lying issues within the athletic department. And I think that because I look and see how it has been far from puppies and roses for football with NIL, compliance and the administration and getting everything and everyone on the same page there, and that's the crown jewel of the athletic department and the university.

I'll shut up now.
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I used Houston as the NIL example because, well, Kelvin was at OU and a lot of fans still love him fiercely. I could have used Louisville. Sure, they have a new coach. It stands to reason that they'll have some excitement and are trying to move upwards. That's a bad example too I guess but they have definitely sucked lately. I'm sure I can find an example or two of non-tourney teams (with the same coaching staff in place) that have had NIL drives. I'm not sure if Ole Miss had a new public MBB drive, without looking, but yeah, they're always in fundraising mode and just kicked OU's a**. Identical 20-12 record (and missed the tourney).

What I'm saying is...OU can push NIL and/or an initiative like...

"We were close this year. Help us take the next step. Let's get OU back to where they should be. Let's get back to Marching!" or "March forward. Help OU MBB today!". Something like that. I'm not a marketer, obviously. It seems easy to me. They could use a couple of interns, a camera, and boom. Even if all they got was $250K, that would have possibly gone a long way for a kid like Pedulla (who knows, speculative). You put that stuff out there in the public, maybe a BMD sees it as well, and steps up in an even bigger way.

I'm not fully blaming Moser. I think it's totally a bigger athletics-wide issue. I've stated way too many times to count that the people in charge don't seem to fully care about, support, and/or know how to win when it comes to MBB. They legit don't seem to get it or they don't seem to care. I'm not saying social media is the largest piece of that puzzle. It's just one example. NIL, arena, ability to win, etc...are bigger issues.

But Moser can do a lot for/by himself. He's followed exactly zero new portal recruits on social media this cycle. That's astonishing. More astonishing is the fact that neither has Paul Jesperson, Armon Gates, Brock Morris, or any of the GA types. When it comes to social media, they're not maximizing things. Custer, Glibert, and Hump are the only ones semi-trying and it's been minimal (Hump is the most active).

Edit: as I'm typing this, Brock Morris followed this account...

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Welcome Mr. Morris. The portal has been open for 39 days. Hey, better late than never, I guess.


"It's not that important". That's where a lot of us will disagree. I used football as the example, not because the programs parallel each other per se, but because I see how much of a positive impact social media is for the (football) program. I think MBB can find ways to mimic football. Of course, not all things are equal. MBB doesn't have the championships, they don't have a million NFL guys (NBA), etc. Coach V is the social media HC, for real. He totally gets it even if he's not tweeting all day.

If Moser isn't using SM properly, it makes sense as to why his staff isn't. Coaches and/or other staffers. It's not seen as a priority or they have been directly told not to. I can't say, for sure, that he has a purposeful anti-social media stance or that's he's relayed it to his "team" to keep things hidden and out of view but it definitely appears to be the case.

It's all good. I'm a jumbled mess but I know my underlying points are correct (I've never ever been wrong :) ). People see things differently and that's more than okay. We can move on, lol.
 
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Is it okay to say Oweh sucked for OU but he can definitely be good elsewhere? I think that's where I'm at. Sucked = the B12 season+

It depends on the system. Oweh could be Jaxson Robinson-esque for UK. He would need to be much more consistent, for sure.
 
CoachTalk said:
Cant believe those coaches dont see what some on our board see. Dude sucks
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It’s funny how you post this each time another team contacts him. If/when he succeeds at another P5 school, it’ll just highlight what a terrible job our staff did developing him and maximizing his strengths. I also wonder — is there any reasonable way to have watched the final two months of the season and not thought that his play was awful?
 
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